Gainzilla
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SgtThump":8unkncdu said:Gainzilla":8unkncdu said:
I dunno man... $2,600 or so for the best sounding guitar in the world (my R8)??? That sounds overpriced at first, then I plug it in and whoa...
Its all relative and in the end just boils down to personal preference Chris. Id gladly put my GMW's up against anything Gibson has to offer(playability,tone, quality) and I got handmade from the ground up customs for less than 2600. If I ever wanted to sell them I could get more than I paid for them because theyre pretty rare( due to the nature of what they are , not because theyre GMW's). Of course, Ill never ever sell them because theyre everything that I could ever want in a guitar. If these new Gibby;s were priced alot more reasonably, Id really be interested in picking one up...
Gainzilla
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I hope not, at the very least, it should be kept as a resonably priced option. They should also hold on to that new neck joint config, Floyd or not, thats something that they should have addressed years ago... I cant see having comfortable upper fret access being a bad thing if nothing is sacrificed...SgtThump":1detuah5 said:
Gainzilla
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Hey , I welcome it, we'll have to bring Rowlands and HMJ along as well!!! I dont doubt that your R8 is a toneful guitar Chris but I fully believe that youll be amazed at what you hear out of my GMW Floyd pauls and I think that your precomcieved notions may be seriously challenged...SgtThump":1yjf4ue8 said:Gainzilla":1yjf4ue8 said:
Maybe one of these days we'll get together somehow and let my R8 stomp on your GMWs in the tone department? LOL... Just kidding. But seriously, yeah it's personal preference. I honestly do think that my R8 is unbeatable.
Gainzilla
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I didnt take it as anything but Bro, you ve got a long history with Good tone as far as Im concerned( checked out Driven To Insanity this weekend and really dug it!!!Wah'd your ass off!!) I just know how you are with LP's and Floyded LP's at that and Im just saying that I think that youd be pleasantly surprised...SgtThump":tckvsiui said:
It looks like Ill be in St Louis sometime in the next year, Id love to get together with you guys!!!
Gainzilla
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Absolutely agree... and its a pretty valid opinion, I havent even seen what the guys on the LP forum have said about the Access model but I dont need to have a damn good idea that they dont approve...SgtThump":3hu3k5fp said:Gainzilla":3hu3k5fp said:
But see, this is what I'm saying... Real "die hard" Les Paul guys don't want that neck heel changed and certainly don't want a Floyd mounted on it. The "die hard" Les Paul fans like them the way they are... That's what I mean about "traditionalist" or whatever. Don't change a good thing!
But yeah, I know others want that stuff. I just think that's the minority.
Chris
PS - That's just an opinion with no actual data to prove anything.
Gainzilla
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SgtThump":za2dumrt said:
was it a little rough? Maybe but you strung some cool ideas together and thas why I stuck out to me( that and the Very rare wah useage from you!!!)
trust me, Ill give you a heads up because not only do I want to hang, hopefully I can plan it so that I can catch one of your gigs as well... Who do we get to toss in the bushes?
Loudness250
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headlessdeadguy":2byqtajh said:
Cool guitar but that would be more of a copy of a studio with a floyd wouldnt it? does that volume knob get in your way sometimes?
Digital Jams
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I was busy!!!!!!!
headlessdeadguy
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Loudness250":3akqrwgp said:
No It came from Gibson with a Kahler and an Explorer neck. Pretty rare. I actually like the volume knob really close like that for some reason.
thiswaythatway
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SgtThump":iup3t8ia said:Digital Jams":iup3t8ia said:I dont remember how many Deluxes we bought for $400 and cut them up for humbuckers and everytime we would play a Boston song because nothing else was known during the 80s for LPs
It is funny the company they tried to sue they are now copying, Paul must be laughing a bit right now
Man, Les Pauls were all over in the '80s vids. ALL OVER! I don't know why people don't realize that? I remember it myself, but it's been confirmed now since VH1 Classic is airing all of those old videos again. Les Pauls galore in the '80s vids!
Well nobody was going to run out and buy a LP because the guy in the Bullet Boys was playing one. The fact is that no guitar heros were sporting a LP in the 80's for the most part. Randy was mostly known for his Jackson V's and Slash and Zakk weren't around yet.
Jackson and Charvels were also in every other 80's hair video. Eddie was the most popular guitar and Kramer reaped the benefits. And once Satch and Vai were known Ibanez really took off.
stratotone
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I think it was early 80s though (say 83 or 84) when Jackson, Dean and Kramers started really whacking into Gibson and Fender sales... then Ibanez hit right after that. Seemed like every shred guitarist had an Ibanez deal in the mid to late 80s...
From what I remember, LPs weren't really wanted until Slash and Guns and Roses hit big in what, late 87, 88? Then the LP made a huge comeback.
Pete
From what I remember, LPs weren't really wanted until Slash and Guns and Roses hit big in what, late 87, 88? Then the LP made a huge comeback.
Pete
Digital Jams
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stratotone":14b3hgh8 said:
86 or 87 Kramer was the number 1 selling guitar on the planet, crazy now that you think about it and what was really USA and what was imported ESPs
Kramer was VERY close to buying Fender
amiller
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As I've mentioned several times, I just, in the last three years, got into Les Pauls. When I first started playing I didn't like Les Pauls for all of the usual reasons...heavy, no trem and lessor neck access. This "new" model changes all of that. Makes me wonder how many would have picked a Paul back in the 80's if it had these new "upgrades?" How many missed sales during the 80's because it didn't have these "upgrades?"
Gainzilla
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i was into them since day one, I would have been playing them all along if they were readily available with Floyds!!!SgtThump":1k6tphaz said:
headlessdeadguy
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stratotone":3jvsrmfm said:
Slayer 85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEPFt4kwos
Gary Moore 84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tIbcmxJWE
Motley Crue 85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=911nU0dW2ss
Vivian Campbell w/Dio ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cChUogZarYc
Alot more out there in the early 80s. But I agree not quite the fad they are today. I'm not a big fan of LPs but love my XPLs.
thiswaythatway
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SgtThump":3bg66pm7 said:danyeo":3bg66pm7 said:
The "fact" is guys like Paul Gilbert or Steve Vai were playing ugly pointy bright pink guitars loaded with whammy bars, but many guys were playing Les Pauls. I really don't understand how anyone can argue against that. Turn it on VH1 Classics sometime and you'll see many more Les Pauls being played in the '80s than most guys will admit. It's right there on the picture tube.
PS - Wasn't Randy playing his white LP Custom is just about every live video/photo there was?
I already said that they apparently weren't selling to everyday consumers and most people played pointy wang bar laden guitars. That's obvious. But they were around and even a little nobody, never-has-been, never-will-be like me was playing one.
Regardless of how many Les Pauls you saw on VH1 Les Pauls in guitar stores weren't selling like Kramers of that day.
Not sure why you keep saying that plenty of bands were using LP's in the 80's because i think we all know that. It just that pointy headstock guitars were the main thing for that time period. I think most guys had a few LP's in their collection because of Page or Ace Frehley.
Pretty amazing how far pointy headstocks fell off the map in the early 90's. There were indeed bands that ran ads looking for guitar players that said "NO pointy headstocks".
Digital Jams
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headlessdeadguy":26xvg33i said:
Well Mars was a HUGE Kramer player and Vivian had perhaps the most sought after Kramer sig model, the Nightswan so you can delete those two guys
Mars had that Kramer Tele that everyone wanted as well, the Girls, Girls, Girls guitar.
stratotone
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Digital Jams":2rd0szgg said:headlessdeadguy":2rd0szgg said:
Well Mars was a HUGE Kramer player and Vivian had perhaps the most sought after Kramer sig model, the Nightswan so you can delete those two guys
Mars had that Kramer Tele that everyone wanted as well, the Girls, Girls, Girls guitar.
Yep. Gary Moore did the Jackson thing for awhile in the 80s also, not sure about Slayer, they were never on my radar. I'd rather listen to cats fuck on a trash can lid than hear Kerry King play a 'solo'.
Pete
Digital Jams
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SgtThump":38qtazfu said:Digital Jams":38qtazfu said:Well Mars was a HUGE Kramer player and Vivian had perhaps the most sought after Kramer sig model, the Nightswan so you can delete those two guys
Mars had that Kramer Tele that everyone wanted as well, the Girls, Girls, Girls guitar.
Mars stopped playing his LP Custom right about the time Motley Crue started sucking.
'81 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYcdXsGLEsc
'83 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWbQKEwiids
Chris
I never liked MC, just thought of them as not being very serious and not very strong musicians but IMO this is their best album...............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK7u7w5zEU4
If they changed their name and released this album imo it would have done far better as the crue fans did not like it at all and all the haters loved it. Drums are huge and the playing is far more focused and serious imo, not that typical Sixx bullshit fluff.