Global Warming is total horseshit.

[Odin]

When I was a kid we didn't have to worry about global warming or ozone because we all knew that the Russians were going to bomb us to death long before the environment killed us.

 

[cloudnine]

Oh noes...we're heading for an Ice Age

It's what happens when science becomes political innit?

Yeah, it's really too bad when some people like the Bush admin don't let stem cell research get federal funding just cause of politics. It works both ways.

Either way, opponents of global warming seem to cite one (usually badly written or studied) article or another as proof that it doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a huge percentage of the scientific community (Read: smart people) have serious reason to believe it does.

People get so offended when they think their lifestyle might be harmful and they lash out when they are told that maybe they should reconsider the way they live for the good of everyone else.

 

[Odin]

It's what happens when science becomes political innit?

Yeah, it's really too bad when some people like the Bush admin don't let stem cell research get federal funding just cause of politics. It works both ways.

Bush didn't block stem cell research funding, your statement is an erroneous generalization. Stem cell research takes place today in the US.

Either way, opponents of global warming seem to cite one (usually badly written or studied) article or another as proof that it doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a huge percentage of the scientific community (Read: smart people) have serious reason to believe it does.

The "scientific community" once thought the Earth was flat. Scientists always think they know best, until they realize that they are wrong...then they once again think that they know best, etc...

Global Warming is (1) a theory and (2) is true, not proven to be caused or affected by human behavior. Assuming that the world is as old as the scientific community theorizes it to be, and assuming that the scientific community is capable of determining what happened in the past, the scientific community still cannot determine if global warming is a naturally occurring situation.

To believe the "scientific community" takes more faith than believing in God.

People get so offended when they think their lifestyle might be harmful and they lash out when they are told that maybe they should reconsider the way they live for the good of everyone else.

Sometimes people get so offended that their latest pet hippie cause isn't swallowed hook, line and sinker by everyone else that they lash out at folks who question them.

 

[UVguy]

To believe the "scientific community" takes more faith than believing in God.

Yea...no.

 

[cloudnine]

Bush didn't block stem cell research funding, your statement is an erroneous generalization. Stem cell research takes place today in the US.

# 2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush signs an executive order which restricts federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines. He supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research on the already existing lines of approximately $100 million and $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells.

# 19 July, 2006 - President George W. Bush vetoes H.R. 810 (Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act), a bill that would have reversed the Clinton-era law which made it illegal for federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.

(Granted that one was as said a Clinton-era law)

The "scientific community" once thought the Earth was flat. Scientists always think they know best, until they realize that they are wrong...then they once again think that they know best, etc...


Global Warming is (1) a theory and (2) is true, not proven to be caused or affected by human behavior. Assuming that the world is as old as the scientific community theorizes it to be, and assuming that the scientific community is capable of determining what happened in the past, the scientific community still cannot determine if global warming is a naturally occurring situation.

To believe the "scientific community" takes more faith than believing in God.

No shit the scientific community puts the best theory forward and goes from there. Your "flat earth" comparison is ridiculous; the flat earth theory was NOT based on any scientific research, study, anything. It was just a commonly accepted notion at the time.

Meanwhile, climate change is a theory based on evidence. Whether you want to accept this as fact or not is up to you, but the evidence is there.

Of course it's a theory. That's what science IS; a bunch of theories that are refined, and refined further, and refined further to define our world in the best way we can.

No, believing in researched, studied, and tested science is much easier than, which by definition is totally unscientific since you can never prove or disprove the idea of a higher being.

Sometimes people get so offended that their latest pet hippie cause isn't swallowed hook, line and sinker by everyone else that they lash out at folks who question them.

See, this is what I don't get, either. I don't see any scientist who calls anyone who doesn't believe in climate change an idiot - they're merely saying that the evidence supports it, people should be mindful of this, and that more research needs to be done.

Yet people who choose to believe the theory are derided as "hippies", "sheep", and a whole host of other names, as if this makes them bad people. Wow, sorry for taking the words of very intelligent people seriously - not necessarily as gospel truth.

In the U.S., science has come to be seen as a boogeyman and it's fucking scary.

Climate change theory SHOULD be questioned and put up to rigorous testing. Noone is debating that.

 

[redrol]

Here is your global warming folks...

hint: the low dips are ice ages, they are very very bad, warming is the least of your worries

 

[defpearlpilot]

The "scientific community" once thought the Earth was flat. Scientists always think they know best, until they realize that they are wrong...then they once again think that they know best, etc...

Global Warming is (1) a theory and (2) is true, not proven to be caused or affected by human behavior. Assuming that the world is as old as the scientific community theorizes it to be, and assuming that the scientific community is capable of determining what happened in the past, the scientific community still cannot determine if global warming is a naturally occurring situation.

To believe the "scientific community" takes more faith than believing in God.

Now I know you're cracked. I'm gonna go worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster now.

 

[duesentrieb]

I'm smoking since I'm 15 or so.
I'm still alive.
Smoking doesn't cause cancer.

 

[kannibul]

Yeah, it's really too bad when some people like the Bush admin don't let stem cell research get federal funding just cause of politics. It works both ways.

Either way, opponents of global warming seem to cite one (usually badly written or studied) article or another as proof that it doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a huge percentage of the scientific community (Read: smart people) have serious reason to believe it does.

People get so offended when they think their lifestyle might be harmful and they lash out when they are told that maybe they should reconsider the way they live for the good of everyone else.

I disagree...

Many, many "Smart" people simply are questioning the validity of the statement that "MAN" is causing the Earth to get warmer.

One of the MOST important parts of Science is to question. Instead, those who question are labled as "big oil cohorts" or whatever.

 

[kannibul]

Bush didn't block stem cell research funding, your statement is an erroneous generalization. Stem cell research takes place today in the US.

# 2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush signs an executive order which restricts federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines. He supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research on the already existing lines of approximately $100 million and $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells.

# 19 July, 2006 - President George W. Bush vetoes H.R. 810 (Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act), a bill that would have reversed the Clinton-era law which made it illegal for federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.

(Granted that one was as said a Clinton-era law)

The "scientific community" once thought the Earth was flat. Scientists always think they know best, until they realize that they are wrong...then they once again think that they know best, etc...


Global Warming is (1) a theory and (2) is true, not proven to be caused or affected by human behavior. Assuming that the world is as old as the scientific community theorizes it to be, and assuming that the scientific community is capable of determining what happened in the past, the scientific community still cannot determine if global warming is a naturally occurring situation.

To believe the "scientific community" takes more faith than believing in God.

No shit the scientific community puts the best theory forward and goes from there. Your "flat earth" comparison is ridiculous; the flat earth theory was NOT based on any scientific research, study, anything. It was just a commonly accepted notion at the time.

Meanwhile, climate change is a theory based on evidence. Whether you want to accept this as fact or not is up to you, but the evidence is there.

Of course it's a theory. That's what science IS; a bunch of theories that are refined, and refined further, and refined further to define our world in the best way we can.

No, believing in researched, studied, and tested science is much easier than, which by definition is totally unscientific since you can never prove or disprove the idea of a higher being.

Sometimes people get so offended that their latest pet hippie cause isn't swallowed hook, line and sinker by everyone else that they lash out at folks who question them.

See, this is what I don't get, either. I don't see any scientist who calls anyone who doesn't believe in climate change an idiot - they're merely saying that the evidence supports it, people should be mindful of this, and that more research needs to be done.

Yet people who choose to believe the theory are derided as "hippies", "sheep", and a whole host of other names, as if this makes them bad people. Wow, sorry for taking the words of very intelligent people seriously - not necessarily as gospel truth.

In the U.S., science has come to be seen as a boogeyman and it's fucking scary.

Climate change theory SHOULD be questioned and put up to rigorous testing. Noone is debating that.

Again, BUSH did not BLOCK Stem Cell Research. He just said the Government shouldn't pay for it. Means nothing about privately or corporately funded (or provately donated to a non-profit) research...

 

[kannibul]

I'm smoking since I'm 15 or so.
I'm still alive.
Smoking doesn't cause cancer.

I don't think it causes it, as much as some people are predisposed to getting certain types of cancers. Smoking, just like anything else we do, is just another catalyst that may trigger it or may not.

 

[Odin]

Bush didn't block stem cell research funding, your statement is an erroneous generalization. Stem cell research takes place today in the US.

# 2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush signs an executive order which restricts federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines. He supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research on the already existing lines of approximately $100 million and $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells.

# 19 July, 2006 - President George W. Bush vetoes H.R. 810 (Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act), a bill that would have reversed the Clinton-era law which made it illegal for federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.

(Granted that one was as said a Clinton-era law)

Try again, and read my statement carefully. Bush has not blocked stem cell research.

 

[Phishphood]

You found it on the Internet? Well that pretty much settles it then, it must be true.

Yes it does settle it, NASA supports the idea of man made global warming. Contrary to what the OP implied
http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_wa ... dbook.html

Here is your global warming folks...

hint: the low dips are ice ages, they are very very bad, warming is the least of your worries

I can has graphs too...

 

[redrol]

Yeah those graphs show exactly what mine does... point?

 

[Odin]

Can you prove that the earth is over 400K years old, or is that another unsubstantiated theory? Sounds like one will need a lot of faith to believe in this global warming stuff.

 

[redrol]

Can you prove that the earth is over 400K years old, or is that another unsubstantiated theory? Sounds like one will need a lot of faith to believe in this global warming stuff.

Did you actually just ask if the earth is more than 400k years old?

 

[duesentrieb]

LOL

 

[Digital Jams]

Can you prove that the earth is over 400K years old, or is that another unsubstantiated theory? Sounds like one will need a lot of faith to believe in this global warming stuff.

Huh???

 

[Odin]

Can you prove that the earth is over 400K years old, or is that another unsubstantiated theory? Sounds like one will need a lot of faith to believe in this global warming stuff.

Did you actually just ask if the earth is more than 400k years old?

No, I asked if it can be proven, of if one must have faith in the scientific community to believe it.

 

[redrol]

Can you prove that the earth is over 400K years old, or is that another unsubstantiated theory? Sounds like one will need a lot of faith to believe in this global warming stuff.

Did you actually just ask if the earth is more than 400k years old?

No, I asked if it can be proven, of if one must have faith in the scientific community to believe it.

So you want me to, in one post, teach you all about science? Get a fucking clue. There is no faith involved. In science if you want to know for sure, you do research. See there were plenty of people before you that wanted to know if the earth really was over 4 billion years old. They did research too. But no, if you feel like reinventing the fucking wheel, go for it. Go learn about the stuff you are ignorant about.