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I've been a chili head for 35 years (y) I could tell you some stories.
Sitting on the toilet dealing with the afterburn while running a tub of water to soak my ass. Praying to God that I would never do it again :ROFLMAO:
That was 35 years ago!

Don't get me wrong I like heat and a insane amount of it but it has to have flavor.
I got a chili recipe that I have perfected its called Black beans Revenge (after the pirate) (y) .
Damn don't get me started on peppers. I grow and breed them too.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
I'm willing to see how these tariffs play out. I just know that the US has reciprocal trade agreements with several countries; including Canada and Mexico, which haven't held up their end of the bargain.
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How exactly have we not held up our end of the bargain? In truth, these tariffs, if implemented, will be the thing that breaks the bargain.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Well you would think that leftist, pro union people would be more than happy to pay more for products actually made in the US. I spent a good deal of my life as a union carpenter and I know that was the way back then. I clearly remember bumper stickers on union guys cars saying things like " Hungry, eat your import". So I guess liberals have flipped. Kinda like they did on the 1st amendment and you know, freedom to not have the government dictate your entire life, what you can ingest, what you can say or believe, what you can drive or buy, etc..
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Yes, I would think the economic principal that "less supply + same demand = cost goes up" is true, because that's a non-debatable fact that has always been true.

Also, be happy unions exist. Without them, nobody would have weekends, work days as short as 8 hours for most jobs, insurance, PTO, or literally anything else other than money from your job. All of those are products of unions.

BTW just so you know, I think the 1st amendment is great. I think the concept of "hate speech" as it pertains being more protective of certain groups over others, is stupid. Any hateful speech is "hate speech" and it's all protected, which is a good thing.
 
acceptance said:
How do you figure?
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8 hour work day:
https://www.loc.gov/item/today-in-history/august-20/

Basically in 1866, the National Labor Union pushed for and ultimately won a fight for legislation that ensured a 40-hour work week. Five work days at 8 hours each became standard.

Unions also got workers the lunch break, FMLA, paid vacations, etc.

Make no mistake, the ultimate goal of businesses isn't to provide a good or service, it is to maximize earnings and minimize expenses. The platonic ideal of a business is one where people deposit every red cent in their bank accounts straight to it and get literally nothing in return. Every other thing most businesses do is just something they must do to get as close to that platonic ideal as possible. Not every business is run this way, but the biggest and most profitable ones absolutely are, and there needs to be systems in place to make sure they act ethically.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
8 hour work day:
https://www.loc.gov/item/today-in-history/august-20/

Basically in 1866, the National Labor Union pushed for and ultimately won a fight for legislation that ensured a 40-hour work week. Five work days at 8 hours each became standard.

Unions also got workers the lunch break, FMLA, paid vacations, etc.

Make no mistake, the ultimate goal of businesses isn't to provide a good or service, it is to maximize earnings and minimize expenses. The platonic ideal of a business is one where people deposit every red cent in their bank accounts straight to it and get literally nothing in return. Every other thing most businesses do is just something they must do to get as close to that platonic ideal as possible. Not every business is run this way, but the biggest and most profitable ones absolutely are, and there needs to be systems in place to make sure they act ethically.
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Dude, I am in a union. But I am not brainwashed by the union. Union membership is what, 6% in this country. And all those dumbasses voting for democrats thinking they are pro union ? Ha ha. What the fuck have democrats done for unions ? The same exact thing they've done for the black community. Not a fucking thing. Anyway, so 6% right. Tell me how that equates to unions raising wages or guaranteeing 8 hour days etc. ? Especially since Henry Ford was the first one to offer 8 hour days and a $5 a day wage in 1914( huge at the time) and Ford was NOT union. So your timeline about 1866 is complete bullshit. From your own link that you provided. "Progress toward an eight-hour day was minimal until June 1933 when Congress enacted the National Industrial Recovery Act, an emergency measure taken by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in response to the economic devastation of the Great Depression. The Act provided for the establishment of maximum hours, minimum wages, and the right to collective bargaining. Struck down by the Supreme Court in May 1935, the Recovery Act was soon replaced by the Wagner Act, which assured workers the right to unionize."

Even if we were to assume unions did it first ( which they didn't) it would be like giving the Spanish credit for the corvette, highways and railroads since they were the first ones to bring horses to North America.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Dude, I am in a union. But I am not brainwashed by the union. Union membership is what, 6% in this country. And all those dumbasses voting for democrats thinking they are pro union ? Ha ha. What the fuck have democrats done for unions ? The same exact thing they've done for the black community. Not a fucking thing. Anyway, so 6% right. Tell me how that equates to unions raising wages or guaranteeing 8 hour days etc. ? Especially since Henry Ford was the first one to offer 8 hour days and a $5 a day wage in 1914( huge at the time) and Ford was NOT union. So your timeline about 1866 is complete bullshit. From your own link that you provided. "Progress toward an eight-hour day was minimal until June 1933 when Congress enacted the National Industrial Recovery Act, an emergency measure taken by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in response to the economic devastation of the Great Depression. The Act provided for the establishment of maximum hours, minimum wages, and the right to collective bargaining. Struck down by the Supreme Court in May 1935, the Recovery Act was soon replaced by the Wagner Act, which assured workers the right to unionize."

Even if we were to assume unions did it first ( which they didn't) it would be like giving the Spanish credit for the corvette, highways and railroads since they were the first ones to bring horses to North America.
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So you're saying that because there's only 6% union membership today, that means they couldn't have been way more influential back when all these policies were being set? Doesn't seem logical. 40 years ago a quarter of the country was in a union. Just because union membership is at historic lows now doesn't mean they didn't get a lot done for people way back when.

And where do you think FDR got the idea to institute that policy? Maybe from the unions at the time who had his ear? He didn't come up with it out of the blue.

Progress is slow and takes time. I'm not in a union, but I know at the very least they are incentivized to push for more worker rights, while businesses are incentivized to push for more profits at the cost of their customer base and workers. If I had to take sides, I know which side I'm taking, and it's not the side of pro 16 hour work days, zero benefits, and child labor.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Make no mistake, the ultimate goal of businesses isn't to provide a good or service, it is to maximize earnings and minimize expenses.
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That's true but businesses do have to provide goods and services that consumers actually want in order to succeed. Governments not so much.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
So you're saying that because there's only 6% union membership today, that means they couldn't have been way more influential back when all these policies were being set? Doesn't seem logical. 40 years ago a quarter of the country was in a union. Just because union membership is at historic lows now doesn't mean they didn't get a lot done for people way back when.

And where do you think FDR got the idea to institute that policy? Maybe from the unions at the time who had his ear? He didn't come up with it out of the blue.

Progress is slow and takes time. I'm not in a union, but I know at the very least they are incentivized to push for more worker rights, while businesses are incentivized to push for more profits at the cost of their customer base and workers. If I had to take sides, I know which side I'm taking, and it's not the side of pro 16 hour work days, zero benefits, and child labor.
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That doesn't change the fact that Henry Ford came up with the 8 hour workday like 19 years before there was any policy set.

You aren't in a union ? And you are sitting here preaching to me about a union ? I've been union most of my life and I can tell you right now that the union I have been in for the last 13 years is useless. The union leaders get paid like heart surgeons but the only thing this union has done for me is take $120 a month out of my check. Company employees have better benefits, bonuses and retirement packages.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
I know at the very least they are incentivized to push for more worker rights, while businesses are incentivized to push for more profits at the cost of their customer base and workers.
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You're not taking into account the costs that unions introduce to businesses that are passed onto consumers and employees. There naturally exists competition between businesses to attract and keep employees. By eliminating that competition businesses and unions become partners in promoting their mutual interests over employees interests. I'm not anti union, but they can themselves be parasitic, monopolizing and coercive institutions and a corrupting influence.
 
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acceptance said:
You're not taking into account the costs that unions introduce to businesses that are passed onto consumers and employees. There naturally exists competition between businesses to attract and keep employees. By eliminating that competition businesses and unions become unwitting partners in promoting their mutual interests over employees interests. I'm not anti union, but they can themselves be parasitic, monopolizing and coercive institutions and corrupting influences.
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Not to mention the useless, lazy piece of shit workers it usually produces. Dude I am 56 ( fuck, I think I may be 57) and I work circles around the vast majority of my co-workers, especially the young guys. They're fucking lazy and stupid and protected.

And I am not anti-union either, but they sure as fuck aren't some magical life changing unicorn. And public sector unions need to be outlawed. That shit is fucking retarded.
 
Anyway, the whole reason I brought up the union was to point out that as a pro union dude ( which you have proven yourself to be) you should absolutely support Tariffs on foreign imports. You should want to support American businesses because without them you wouldn't have a job.
 
Re hot sauce:
I eat Shit the Bed Sauce by the teaspoon. My buddy who considers himself an aficionado of all things hot can't believe it when he sees me do this without getting watery eyes, a runny nose, a red face or sweat.

Loved hot stuff since I was a kid. I had pica, so by the time I was about 7 I was heavily into HP Sauce, Worcestershire Sauce, pickles, chillies, roll mops... all things savoury.

JackBootedThug said:
I didn’t move it… I might know who did though…lol
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Wasn't me. You'd have known if it was 'cause I always, 100% of the time, post my reasoning. Never done it "silently".

PhoneyIommi said:
Remember, folks.The Butler, PA shooting was fully staged.Everyone knows this.
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Wow. Just... wow.

OK, imagine the scenario:
"Hey, I've got a great idea. We'll get some young punk to miss your skull by a few millimetres from hundreds of feet away and everyone will think he's tryin' ta kill you. Should provide just the boost we need to defeat Biden (POTUS at the time)".

How exactly does that work mate? Maybe you didn't think that one through...
 
Monkey Man said:
Re hot sauce:
I eat Shit the Bed Sauce by the teaspoon. My buddy who considers himself an aficionado of all things hot can't believe it when he sees me do this without getting watery eyes, a runny nose, a red face or sweat.

Loved hot stuff since I was a kid. I had pica, so by the time I was about 7 I was heavily into HP Sauce, Worcestershire Sauce, pickles, chillies, roll mops... all things savoury.


Wasn't me. You'd have known if it was 'cause I always, 100% of the time, post my reasoning. Never done it "silently".


Wow. Just... wow.

OK, imagine the scenario:
"Hey, I've got a great idea. We'll get some young punk to miss your skull by a few millimetres from hundreds of feet away and everyone will think he's tryin' ta kill you. Should provide just the boost we need to defeat Biden (POTUS at the time)".

How exactly does that work mate? Maybe you didn't think that one through...
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They believe every far out ridiculous piece of bullshit propaganda that fits their narrative.
 
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