Heaven and Hell & Mob Rules

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JackTripper said:
Caught the Heaven and Hell reunion tour in 2009, Dio still had the voice and never broke character. Totally surprised when he passed the following year.
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I saw them twice that year as they came to Chicago in May and in September if I remember. Just epic shows. The band was tight, Iommi was amazing and Dio's voice was out of this world. I swear when Iommi played the main riff from "I", I thought the roof of the venue was going to come down it was so heavy!
 
DanTravis62 said:
I prefer dio sabbath to ozzy.
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Me too. I like Sabbath with Ozzy well enough. My parents played Black Sabbath, Sabotage, and Master of Reality when I was a little kid. However, Dio Sabbath is like a different (and much better) band. Heaven & Hell is my favorite Sabbath album, and it's not even close. It's such a shame that we didn't get another 5 or 6 albums from the Dio era.
 
ZEEGLER said:
Me too. I like Sabbath with Ozzy well enough. My parents played Black Sabbath, Sabotage, and Master of Reality when I was a little kid. However, Dio Sabbath is like a different (and much better) band. Heaven & Hell is my favorite Sabbath album, and it's not even close. It's such a shame that we didn't get another 5 or 6 albums from the Dio era.
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Agreed. Early Sabbath is certainly influential, and all that

But dio-era Sabbath is like an entirely new (and superior) band, and made superior music, with the majority of the psychedelia and hippy affectations removed in exchange for stark, baroque imagery
 
DanTravis62 said:
Agreed. Early Sabbath is certainly influential, and all that

But dio-era Sabbath is like an entirely new (and superior) band, and made superior music, with the majority of the psychedelia and hippy affectations removed in exchange for stark, baroque imagery
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You had me at the superiority of Dio fronted Sabbath, but lost me at Manowar :unsure:
 
thegame said:
You had me at the superiority of Dio fronted Sabbath, but lost me at Manowar :unsure:
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That probably means you should give late period manowar a second listen.

Especially the songs that are way better than their Sabbath namesake:

 
DanTravis62 said:
Was it them or incubus that was the terrible FuNkY rap metal pothead group? Nevermind they're both fucking awful
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:LOL: All that early and mid 2000's rock stuff was the prototype material for some of the bro country that followed.That stuff is classic rock now, let that sink in.:LOL:
 
Saw Sabbath with Ozzy '78 Never Say Die tour; VH opened.
Saw Sabbath with Dio, both tours; missed Sabbath with Gillan because car got a flat tire. One of these was a Black & Blue show, Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult did shows together.

I also saw Rainbow opening for Blue Oyster Cult around the same time; probably with Graham Bonnet.

I like both Ozzy and Dio Sabbath, almost like two different bands IMO
 
I met Manowar in an airline lounge in Miami, FL, they were on their way back from / or to Rock in Rio, at least 10+ years ago.
 
He took the Marshalls on the road too. Day On The Green 1980

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Mob rules is in my top 10 albums of all time.

BLISTERING GUITAR!
 
SQUAREHEAD said:
Just revisited these two after a few years.
Masterpieces…

So, I always thought Tony used a Mesa MkI on these albums, somewhere I read that, a long time ago.

It seems he was using Marshall Superleads though.

Overall, I think I (slightly) prefer Heaven and Hell over Mob Rules, but you can’t deny, ‘Sign of the Southern Cross’, ‘Voodoo’, ‘Mob Rules’, ‘Falling Off the Edge of the World’.

My personal favorite Black Sabbath era.


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WOW, I thought this era was either his old or some newer 80's Laneys with some type of boost. Since a Marshall 1959 which has 2 gains stages normally so this extra stage mod would be 3 gains stages like a JCM800.

Those albums have nice gain with a good crunch plus definition and great clarity with AUTHORITY.

When compared to the older albums that had some of that treble booster fuzz on the crunch which was good for the early 70's but the tone on H&H and Mob Rules was a better evolution of Iommi tone IMHO.

Very Cool Info Mr. Square.....Thanks for posting that!:2thumbsup:

When I saw them on THE END tour his Laney TI 100 sounded like the Heaven and Hell Mob Rules albums, it was a great show.

https://www.iommi.com/equipment/the-tony-iommi-live-guitar-rig/

1) The speakers​


The main stage sound comes from eight Laney straight fronted 4 x 12″ speaker cabinets. These cabinets are mounted in four steel frames. The cabs are loaded with Celestion G12H loudspeakers. The cabs have been modified to take Neutrik Speakon connectors in parallel with 1/4″ jacks.


There are also eight 2 x 12″ wedges custom made by Laney distributed around the stage powered from within the guitar set-up. Along with a pair of earlier made but similar wedges for the drums, these serve as guitar monitors for Tony and the rest of the band to ‘lock on’ to a pure guitar sound as they move around the stage. These wedges are loaded with Celestion G12 75T loudspeakers.


2) The amplification​


Each of the 4 x 12″ cabs is driven by one of eight Laney GH 100 TI amplifiers. These are the Tony Iommi signature models. (See elsewhere on the website for the history). The GH 100 TI is an all valve (tube) 100 watt amplifier head. The amplifier is designed in such a way that the power amp section can be used independently of its pre-amp section. One of the heads is designated the master head and its pre-amp drives all eight heads as slave power amplifiers. See below for how this is configured. The output tubes used are the TAD EL 34STR, which have proved to be the best of all tested.


All of the monitor wedge speakers are powered by HH V800 power amplifiers, driven via an HH EQ 125 graphic equaliser, from one of the output sections of the Pete Cornish control rack.
 
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