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everything through the same cab,
James, what is your opinion on the 5153? How did it stand up in person? All the clips sound great but how did it compare live? The 71 sounded fantastic...i owned a Cobra and don't rmember it sounding that thick and saturated. But yeah I was wondereing about the EVH amp. Thoughts?James Lugo":3gnzkrxx said:James Lugo":3gnzkrxx said:
I just downloaded them all and toggled back and forth on my stereo at home. So many of the amps sound great. The '71 just destroys me. That recording was with the Presence on 2.5 and Treble on maybe 6. The Jose is a little smaller and a little slicker sounding, it could be the brightness of that amp. The '76 and '74 seem to have the most meat of the Marshalls. It seems like the '71 sits between the 76/74 and the Jose. For fun, I'm gonna experiment with upping the high end and cutting lows and mids on the '71 and '76 and see if I can get the Jose sound with them.
The other amp that get me going are the; Marsha (would want one if I didn't already have 2 Friedmans), both Soldanos, Mesa Boogie Dual Rec (2 ch) and the Bogner XTC. I absolutely love the voicing of the XTC, just sounds right. The Boogie is definitely on a way different trip but that's what I like, it really gives a different look at the sound. The Soldanos just f**kin' rock! They were both so much fun and so easy to play. If I add another amp to my collection it may be the XTC.
You couldn't go wrong with most of these amps.
Just listened through again, using iTunes to just keep hitting the same section at the end with all the amps. The '71 is flawless. My favorite of the day. It's also fun to play and looks cool. It's articulate without being stiff like some modded Marshall are. Friedman really crushed it when he modded her, he put the whole 'Kitchen Sink' mod, so she real versatile too; Brown Eye, Custom45, Hairy Brown Eye.
Tone Merchant":3mrah48r said:What a great day. It started off with the best pizza Ive had in a long time.
James and Dan did such an incredible job with everything from the playing, to the production, just insanely well done. And can James sing his ass off or what I got that 30 days song stuck in my head
I would love to give my opinions of the amps. But unfortunately, im not in a position to do that
I will say that Dave Friedman's Marsha was pretty much the best sounding Marshall type amp Ive ever heard in person and it recorded fantastic. I think the next event should be a MONSTER GAIN shoot out. Where we REALLY crank up the gain, throw in some really tuned low guitars along with standard tuning and we can CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA away. Ill talk to James about it
jabps":3ir4bff9 said:James, what is your opinion on the 5153? How did it stand up in person? All the clips sound great but how did it compare live? The 71 sounded fantastic...i owned a Cobra and don't rmember it sounding that thick and saturated. But yeah I was wondereing about the EVH amp. Thoughts?James Lugo":3ir4bff9 said:James Lugo":3ir4bff9 said:
I just downloaded them all and toggled back and forth on my stereo at home. So many of the amps sound great. The '71 just destroys me. That recording was with the Presence on 2.5 and Treble on maybe 6. The Jose is a little smaller and a little slicker sounding, it could be the brightness of that amp. The '76 and '74 seem to have the most meat of the Marshalls. It seems like the '71 sits between the 76/74 and the Jose. For fun, I'm gonna experiment with upping the high end and cutting lows and mids on the '71 and '76 and see if I can get the Jose sound with them.
The other amp that get me going are the; Marsha (would want one if I didn't already have 2 Friedmans), both Soldanos, Mesa Boogie Dual Rec (2 ch) and the Bogner XTC. I absolutely love the voicing of the XTC, just sounds right. The Boogie is definitely on a way different trip but that's what I like, it really gives a different look at the sound. The Soldanos just f**kin' rock! They were both so much fun and so easy to play. If I add another amp to my collection it may be the XTC.
You couldn't go wrong with most of these amps.
Just listened through again, using iTunes to just keep hitting the same section at the end with all the amps. The '71 is flawless. My favorite of the day. It's also fun to play and looks cool. It's articulate without being stiff like some modded Marshall are. Friedman really crushed it when he modded her, he put the whole 'Kitchen Sink' mod, so she real versatile too; Brown Eye, Custom45, Hairy Brown Eye.
simbasa":29n0eo3f said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
James Lugo":24psycxz said:simbasa":24psycxz said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
Maybe a big drop tuner next...
Sound Clips:
https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... rentPage=1
Video Clips:
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJGO5frt69Q
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIFUt4Kj4vY
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdDlQgG6IE
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zDhzhwRa0
5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m55umNiqJgw
6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzrgBF7v9fo
7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwutjYMURN0
8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2ahamueRM
9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2fxsgaXRLw
Pics:
http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/477715/1/High Gain Amp Shoot-Out?h=7d44ab
aeroic":1an5csqt said:James Lugo":1an5csqt said:simbasa":1an5csqt said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
Maybe a big drop tuner next...
It was an M75/V30 combo, both were miced. I have an H75/V30 cab but the M75/V30 was the best overall for the amp range.
Sound Clips:
https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... rentPage=1
Video Clips:
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJGO5frt69Q
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIFUt4Kj4vY
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdDlQgG6IE
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zDhzhwRa0
5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m55umNiqJgw
6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzrgBF7v9fo
7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwutjYMURN0
8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2ahamueRM
9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2fxsgaXRLw
Pics:
http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/477715/1/High Gain Amp Shoot-Out?h=7d44ab
I hope there is something like this next. With the speakers / cab that you used, they lent themselves to make the "marshalls" sound best, since Marshalls LOVE greenback styles of speakers. The Eggie IMHO would have sounded much better with a V30/T75 cab...or a T75/CL80 type of cab. Same with the Bogners / Deizels. Most would rather have heard those in particular with a cab w/ K100s or a uber kab w/ V30s/T75s. I think it was very interesting to hear all of the different tones, but definitely agree there needs to be a "true" high gain shootout...I'd call this a good "rock amp" shootout...but we need the same with some heavier Drop B, Drop A, "brootalz" tones! This shootout combined with that type of shootout would fucking rip!
But man you did a lot of good work here for sure. Thanks for a lot of fun watching the videos!
James Lugo":1dmjoy05 said:aeroic":1dmjoy05 said:James Lugo":1dmjoy05 said:simbasa":1dmjoy05 said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
Maybe a big drop tuner next...
It was an M75/V30 combo, both were miced. I have an H75/V30 cab but the M75/V30 was the best overall for the amp range.
Sound Clips:
https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... rentPage=1
Video Clips:
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJGO5frt69Q
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIFUt4Kj4vY
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdDlQgG6IE
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zDhzhwRa0
5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m55umNiqJgw
6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzrgBF7v9fo
7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwutjYMURN0
8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2ahamueRM
9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2fxsgaXRLw
Pics:
http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/477715/1/High Gain Amp Shoot-Out?h=7d44ab
I hope there is something like this next. With the speakers / cab that you used, they lent themselves to make the "marshalls" sound best, since Marshalls LOVE greenback styles of speakers. The Eggie IMHO would have sounded much better with a V30/T75 cab...or a T75/CL80 type of cab. Same with the Bogners / Deizels. Most would rather have heard those in particular with a cab w/ K100s or a uber kab w/ V30s/T75s. I think it was very interesting to hear all of the different tones, but definitely agree there needs to be a "true" high gain shootout...I'd call this a good "rock amp" shootout...but we need the same with some heavier Drop B, Drop A, "brootalz" tones! This shootout combined with that type of shootout would fucking rip!
But man you did a lot of good work here for sure. Thanks for a lot of fun watching the videos!
It was a cab with M75/V30 combo. I have an H75/V30 cab but this cab was better overall with a range of heavy amps. We shot it out using many amps.
simbasa":2wxs5x1d said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
danyeo":1d7eraxo said:simbasa":1d7eraxo said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
haha, funny how everyone hears things different. I loved the Elmwood clip and everything about the Mark V. Electradyne didn't do much for me and neither did the Diezel's. Especially the VH4, it sounded too refined and not rude enough.
Tone Merchant":dnccdmve said:its interesting that when I first listened to all the clips, i tried to pick out the one or two I like the best. I then thought to myself, if I was recording an album with a top notch producer like James and had access to all these amps and I wanted to create a tone for the album, what would i use. I then listened to them all again and decided i would use 3 different amps. one for the bottom end, one for the mids and one for highs. that would be nice
Elmwood sounded too compressed and maybe not enough treble was used. Mark V does sound killer on the video where Bruce Bouillet is playing it. Some of the top lead tones there. I think the Electradyne sounds not as harsh as some of the other Marshall style amps and it sounds perfect in the mix on Jame's song. I wonder what amp would be preferred most if you polled a bunch of non-musicians?danyeo":3lxisbdg said:simbasa":3lxisbdg said:Great posts!!!! My hat's off to you for putting together a competent setup with so many amps in the little time you had with them. You the man.
I love the Electradyne and Marsha clips. Rackto was good and different from all the 'brit' tones. One of the worst for me was the Mark V for rhythm but good for leads. Elmwood was blah and the Engl recorded well. Wish I could have been there to hear all those great amps in person.
I do hope there is another shootout but with the uber gain and detuned metal riffing, as mentioned. It MUST be done. Uberschall vs. Herbert vs. Engl SE vs. VHT UL vs. Splawn Nitro vs. 5150 vs........... Oh man, that would be killer!
haha, funny how everyone hears things different. I loved the Elmwood clip and everything about the Mark V. Electradyne didn't do much for me and neither did the Diezel's. Especially the VH4, it sounded too refined and not rude enough.