How Could the French F Up So Badly?

[Floyd Eye]

Until someone actually shows that those actual tests exist and what they said, it’s all just heresy against actual documentation that she has been female her entire life

Show me proof of this "Actual documentation" you're talking about ? Otherwise it too is just heresay. I mean why believe the European Boxing guy when all the proof you need is some fucking CNN article?

 

[Floyd Eye]

It’s not left wing to think someone who was allowed to compete under the rules of the Olympics, should be able to compete in the Olympics

Every thing you think is left wing Dan. You just try to lie about it.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Show me proof of this "Actual documentation" you're talking about ? Otherwise it too is just heresay. I mean why believe the European Boxing guy when all the proof you need is some fucking CNN article?

It’s not just a cnn article, it’s literally every article published about the controversy. They l say pretty much the same thing. I do not have her birth certificate or her passport, so I can’t show you them, but clearly the IOC saw them, or they wouldn’t haven’t her compete.

Compared to the “documentation” against her which does not seem to exist, and even if it did, would not change the rules of the Olympics

 

[Floyd Eye]

It’s not just a cnn article, it’s literally every article published about the controversy. They l say pretty much the same thing. I do not have her birth certificate or her passport, so I can’t show you them, but clearly the IOC saw them, or they wouldn’t haven’t her compete.

Compared to the “documentation” against her which does not seem to exist, and even if it did, would not change the rules of the Olympics

It's a biological male. I guarantee it and I guarantee you know it. Yet you make every excuse as to why it's okay. And if the Olympic rules said a biological male who identified as a female could compete, you would still support it. Right up until it was your kid that had to get in the ring or the pool or on the court with it.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

It's a biological male. I guarantee it and I guarantee you know it. Yet you make every excuse as to why it's okay. And if the Olympic rules said a biological male who identified as a female could compete, you would still support it. Right up until it was your kid that had to get in the ring or the pool or on the court with it.

Don’t bring my kids into this dude. If they were ever in this position I hope that they would act just like the Italian girl did and respect the rules, any not be a sniveling bitch about it.

But you are right about one thing, I don’t give a fuck what the rules are. If they say a biological man can fight a woman, then I guess those are the rules. I could not care less.

It seems what is being decided now is that sex can only be determined by dna testing. It doesn’t matter what genitals you are born with anymore.

 

[Floyd Eye]

A kick to the groin would tell you.

I'm sure all those women who's rights don't matter to you are just sniveling bitches.

And I didn't bring your kids into it. I don't know your kids. It was a general comment about your hypothetical kids. So quit being a sniveling little bitch Dan.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

A kick to the groin would tell you.

I'm sure all those women who's rights don't matter to you are just sniveling bitches.

And I didn't bring your kids into it. I don't know your kids. It was a general comment about your hypothetical kids. So quit being a sniveling little bitch Dan.

I just asked you not to. I didn’t last time, this time I did. It’s not sniveling, it’s just telling you not to. So please don’t.

And until any shred of evidence says that she is not a woman, it would sure seem like hating on her is what is going against women’s rights

 

[Floyd Eye]

I just asked you not to. I didn’t last time, this time I did. It’s not sniveling, it’s just telling you not to. So please don’t.

And until any shred of evidence says that she is not a woman, it would sure seem like hating on her is what is going against women’s rights

No, the fact that you support biological males competing in women's sports is. And you do. Even without this current example.

 

[acceptance]

And until any shred of evidence says that she is not a woman, it would sure seem like hating on her is what is going against women’s rights

There is evidence: her general appearance, the vague IBA letter, disqualification and so on. To be clear, I don't think biological men should compete in women's sports, but on the other hand, I don't think that most of the haters here have as much to go on as they seem to think. But they could be correct that she's a biological man.

 

[acceptance]

they made up the whole story about too much testosterone and XY Chromosomes

The letter, which is the only thing that I've seen, doesn't say that though. In fact it explicitly states they didn't do a chromosome test.

 

[Floyd Eye]

There is evidence: her general appearance, the vague IBA letter, disqualification and so on. To be clear, I don't think biological men should compete in women's sports, but on the other hand, I don't think that most of the haters here have as much to go on as they seem to think. But they could be correct that she's a biological man.

She should have to prove she is not a man. I guarantee you she can't or this whole little worldwide bitchfest about it would have never happened. Because they would have offered to drop trow in front of unbiased judges.

 

[acceptance]

It’s not left wing to think someone who was allowed to compete under the rules of the Olympics, should be able to compete in the Olympics

This is why I say that perhaps people here would be better off criticizing the IOC rather than the athlete.

 

[Floyd Eye]

The letter, which is the only thing that I've seen, doesn't say that though. In fact it explicitly states they didn't do a chromosome test.

Okay, so if these biased Russian judges are lying and she actually passed a gender test ( whatever the fuck that is) she could solve the whole ordeal by proving it. She won't. She can't.

 

[Floyd Eye]

This is why I say that perhaps people here would be better off criticizing the IOC rather than the athlete.

Maybe, but if it is a man who is competing against women ( and it almost certainly is) they are deserving of criticism.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

This is why I say that perhaps people here would be better off criticizing the IOC rather than the athlete.

Most definitely

 

[acceptance]

Okay, so if these biased Russian judges are lying and she actually passed a gender test ( whatever the fuck that is) she could solve the whole ordeal by proving it. She won't. She can't.

I've already written A) she is possibly a man, and B) the discrediting of the IBA could be political. I am just saying that without something more concrete, everyone is speculating, even if reasonably so.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

There is evidence: her general appearance, the vague IBA letter, disqualification and so on. To be clear, I don't think biological men should compete in women's sports, but on the other hand, I don't think that most of the haters here have as much to go on as they seem to think. But they could be correct that she's a biological man.

If it turns out that her birth certificate was made up and her passport is fake, and that she is just a man pretending to be a woman to compete, I will gladly jump on the hate train.

But unless those things happen, I find it very hard to be upset by any of this

 

[acceptance]

I also think that this case is more complex than a Lia Thomas type case. And potentially involves some interesting questions, if for example she is intersex. I don't think she is trying to pull one over on everyone, or chose to be a woman so she could have an unfair advantage. These nuances are lost here.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I've already admitted A) she is possibly a man, and B) the discrediting of the IBA could be political. I am just saying that without something more concrete, everyone is speculating, even if reasonably so.

Yeah I ain't denying that. I think the only way to really solve the whole bullshit idea of these transexual women's athletes is for the women who compete in these sports to refuse to participate. You have probably 90% of the world agrees it's bullshit and here we are bowing to the 10% of trans activists. Fuck that shit. Even fucking regular gay people don't like all this TBQXZ bullshit. Trannies are less then 1% of the population that doesn't identify as heterosexual. So maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/1000th of a percent of the human population. They should fucking suck it up.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I also think that this case is more complex than a Lia Thomas type case. And potentially involves some interesting questions, if for example she is intersex. I don't think she is trying to pull one over on everyone, or chose to be a woman so she could have an unfair advantage. These nuances are lost here.

And as you mentioned earlier, cultural differences come in to play. I’m not an expert on Algeria, but I don’t imagine someone without a penis would have a great life growing up as a “boy” there.

Compared to just being an ugly woman