How Could the French F Up So Badly?

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acceptance said:
Is there such a thing and how is that not dominated by men?
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It certainly could be, but I think you're failing to grasp the point. Women don't go into women's sports to compete against men. Others can start their own leagues for all I care. Coed is an option. All is an option. Transgender men or women is an option. It is that black and white.
 
This thread has turned into an attempt at justification of wickedness, that is all.
 
acceptance said:
Is there such a thing and how is that not dominated by men?
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Sure. Mixed Doubles tennis. Bowling. There are many fine women shooters. No reason many other sports couldn't do co-ed. Skiing.

It's funny how we don't see any women that transitioned to men trying to play men's sports.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
It certainly could be, but I think you're failing to grasp the point. Women don't go into women's sports to compete against men. Others can start their own leagues for all I care. Coed is an option. All is an option. Transgender men or women is an option. It is that black and white.
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I get all that. What isn’t clear, at least to me, is whether this individual should be classified as a man or women or neither. If neither, it might be considered discriminatory not to allow them into women’s sports, but on the other hand they might have some advantage. Would it be unfair? Is it unfair that some women naturally have more testosterone or other traits that make them much more competitive than other women? If that was the case here, people would be celebrating her, but conceptually it is the same problem. Sometimes calls have to be made. Maybe this is one of them. This individual would get nowhere in men’s boxing and I don’t believe they are even undefeated in women’s.

My sense is that this whole thing is hyped because of all the trans nonsense, but it’s not the case we’re dealing with here.
 
acceptance said:
I get all that. What isn’t clear, at least to me, is whether this individual should be classified as a man or women or neither. If neither, it might be considered discriminatory not to allow them into women’s sports, but on the other hand they might have some advantage. Would it be unfair? Is it unfair that some women naturally have more testosterone or other traits that make them much more competitive than other women? If that was the case here, people would be celebrating her, but conceptually it is the same problem. Sometimes calls have to be made. Maybe this is one of them. This individual would get nowhere in men’s boxing and I don’t believe they are even undefeated in women’s.

My sense is that this whole thing is hyped because of all the trans nonsense, but it’s not the case we’re dealing with here.
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If they aren't a biological woman, it's not discriminatory. The issues can easily be addressed by starting their own leagues. There's literally no reason to argue against it, imo.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
If they aren't a biological woman, it's not discriminatory. The issues can easily be addressed by starting their own leagues. There's literally no reason to argue against it, imo.
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The reason to argue it is simply good will and fairness, depending. Are you arguing the individual is not a women because they have XY chromosomes? What if they were XX with male genitalia and high testosterone?
 
acceptance said:
The reason to argue it is simply good will and fairness, depending. Are you arguing the individual is not a women because they have XY chromosomes? What if they were XX with male genitalia and high testosterone?
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Neither are women. They can start their own league. No reason not to. I'm sure at this point in time it would be easy to secure funding and support for said endeavor. Unless of course people refuse simply so that they can pretend to be victims of something there is a cure for. This will just go around in circles.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
I thought that was obvious many comments back, Dan.
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I think that’s reasonable. I doubt there are many intersex athletes competing at the Olympic level though. Maybe the IOC just made a judgment call on this one. That individual seems to compete in general at the women’s level however. But sure maybe they have an advantage.
 
Tried to tell everyone about those French wierdos (other than @nero, he is a wise and great man) but the rest of them are a bunch of jerks, making swimmers swim through that. Disgusting.
 
Justin Bailey said:
I liked those 10 seconds you pretended to ignore me. It reminded me of that Yaba guy
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