Hurricane Helene

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Yep, fuck this country and fuck that asshole Zhelenski. Fucking parasite.
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Damage to I-40 which I think runs from Knoxville to Asheville NC
 
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I was 200 miles East of the eye in Plant City Florida, (east of Tampa). It was a nasty, relentless S.O.B. We didn't get but 2-3" of rain, but the wind was insane. And when it did pour, it was intensely heavy. I've lived here many years, have witnessed many storms, and this one, (without a doubt), was the biggest in size I can remember. It was an absolute monster that was wider and nearly bigger than the entire state of Florida. Winds from it extended 380 miles from the eye, which is absurdly unheard of. They had 50-60MPH gusts all the way to the east coast, and the storm's eye was about 160 miles west of Tampa. It was intense. I had lots of yard work to do. Tree limbs everywhere. I'd be lying if I said it didn't scare the shit out of me a few times. It was about 6 hours of nail-biting as it went up the coast. And we didn't get nearly the brunt of it.
 
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Some pretty good footage at the 3:00 minute mark of Treasure Island:

That was very Brief footage at best :dunno:
There is another one from yesterday that is aout 24 minutes long. Helicopter w no narrative. From south of Ft Meyers up past Clearwater. I can't find it now.

This one is decent:



At 1:09, you can see the Thunderbird - which I've stayed at. :(
 
That was very Brief footage at best :dunno:
There is another one from yesterday that is aout 24 minutes long. Helicopter w no narrative. From south of Ft Meyers up past Clearwater. I can't find it now.

This one is decent:



At 1:09, you can see the Thunderbird - which I've stayed at. :(

As much as I feel bad for these people, they live in the Gulf, not near it.

Don't send them food and water, send them U Hauls.
 
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Trump is in Valdosta, GA right now surveying damage and currently thanking a whole list of people/politicians for their work in digging into this mess.

Joe Hiden said earlier today, vaguely in a press conference, that he might go somewhere later this week when it is safe and when his visit won't be a disruption :lol: :mad:
 
That was very Brief footage at best :dunno:
There is another one from yesterday that is aout 24 minutes long. Helicopter w no narrative. From south of Ft Meyers up past Clearwater. I can't find it now.

This one is decent:



At 1:09, you can see the Thunderbird - which I've stayed at. :(

Thanks for sharing that 311. Most people don't know that Treasure Island is 100 percent manmade. They dredged it and built it up. Actually most of the gulf beaches undergo regular "replenishment" every five years or so. St. Pete Beach had these t-groin deals....huge thick rubberized canvas like sandbags running out to prevent erosion at upham beach. My sister's place is near there.

Don't send them food and water, send them U Hauls.
This storm was the most direct hit on the Tampa area in 100 years. In truth Tampa has been one of the best areas on the gulf for avoiding the direct hit storms. This is why it was a pirate's cove in the spanish conquistador times. Refuge from the storm. The nature coast above it is a completely different story. The Sewanee river has flooded before plus anything west of US19 is basically swamp or a couple feet above sea level. It's just part of life there that clueless out of state types don't realize when they move there. Expect life disruptions and a slower overall pace of life in the tropics.
 
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Trump is in Valdosta, GA right now surveying damage and currently thanking a whole list of people/politicians for their work in digging into this mess.

Joe Hiden said earlier today, vaguely in a press conference, that he might go somewhere later this week when it is safe and when his visit won't be a disruption :lol: :mad:
He has to schedule around naps. He only works 10-4. And that's dragging a lawn chair at the beach.

Trump will fly in Big Macs, and pallets of water. Things a true leader should do. I don't even recall Biden or Harris saying as much as a peep about the whole fucking thing.
 
Thanks for sharing that 311. Most people don't know that Treasure Island is 100 percent manmade. They dredged it and built it up. Actually most of the gulf beaches undergo regular "replenishment" every five years or so. St. Pete Beach had these t-groin deals....huge thick rubberized canvas like sandbags running out to prevent erosion at upham beach. My sister's place is near there.


This storm was the most direct hit on the Tampa area in 100 years. In truth Tampa has been one of the best areas on the gulf for avoiding the direct hit storms. This is why it was a pirate's cove in the spanish conquistador times. Refuge from the storm. The nature coast above it is a completely different story. The Sewanee river has flooded before plus anything west of US19 is basically swamp or a couple feet above sea level. It's just part of life there that clueless out of state types don't realize when they move there. Expect life disruptions and a slower overall pace of life in the tropics.
My comments were more directed to the Treasure Island video. Those people live on a sand bar in the Gulf.
 
My comments were more directed to the Treasure Island video. Those people live on a sand bar in the Gulf.
Yes, I know. I made the thread because my parents and sister both live on one of those sand bars very close to Treasure Island. Coastal Florida has risks. Once upon a time when I lived there, there was a nice sunny day. Along came the usual afternoon thunderheads except one of them kicked up a waterspout which moved onto land and blew a hole in a concrete wall on a house right down there on pass-a-grille. Just one example of how weather on or near the water can change very quickly. I have no beef with beach living, but nothing that exists there will be there for a very long time. Some of the post pandemic residents didn't realize that I don't think.....
 
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Thanks for sharing that 311. Most people don't know that Treasure Island is 100 percent manmade. They dredged it and built it up. Actually most of the gulf beaches undergo regular "replenishment" every five years or so. St. Pete Beach had these t-groin deals....huge thick rubberized canvas like sandbags running out to prevent erosion at upham beach. My sister's place is near there.


This storm was the most direct hit on the Tampa area in 100 years. In truth Tampa has been one of the best areas on the gulf for avoiding the direct hit storms. This is why it was a pirate's cove in the spanish conquistador times. Refuge from the storm. The nature coast above it is a completely different story. The Sewanee river has flooded before plus anything west of US19 is basically swamp or a couple feet above sea level. It's just part of life there that clueless out of state types don't realize when they move there. Expect life disruptions and a slower overall pace of life in the tropics.
Yep. I've seen plenty of those. Inner-coastal is mostly man made too. And poor Ft. Meyers, they are still recovering from the last hurricane there.

There is a native American Indian story around this as to a 'spell' placed on the Gulf to NOT bring storms into Tampa Bay. That has been broken. Sorry if I botched that up, I didn't research it.
 
I have no beef with beach living, but nothing that exists there will be there for a very long time. Some of the post pandemic residents didn't realize that I don't think.....

My wife and I used to talk about setting up BRB/VRBO(s) along that area as a retirement play. And be close to my parents. That dream is dead. This storm as permanently sealed that idea shut. I used to always tell my wife that I like visiting the beach, but I don't want to live on/near one.

The only place I've been to that seems hurricane proof is Aruba (owned by Denmark BTW). Love that place. Alcohol is expensive though.

I called my parents last night to see how things are going and to offer to come down and help with their church (which is 1 block removed from Gulf Blvd in Clearwater. They told me do NOT come down now.

1.) No one is going to let you on Gulf Blvd
2.) All of this sand is now contaminated and will have to be removed. It cannot simply be put back on the beach or in the ocean. Which means, there is now further erosion in the future for western Florida. As you know, in the past, these beach communities would periodically relocate sand back and forth in a very expensive process using barges and pumps etc. That sand can no longer be recycled. The tourism dollars will be lost for awhile too - making all of this worse for those that live in these communities. Best of luck to your family there my friend.
 
PS: We have a friend who lives near Asheville, NC that no one has heard from yet :( Hoping it is just a cell phone service related issue.
 
My comments were more directed to the Treasure Island video. Those people live on a sand bar in the Gulf.
and?

works for me. but it would have to be a second home. Outer Banks is too cold; Florida keys are too crowded and not much actual beach...

one of the problems with some of these "sand bar houses" are the wooden stilts they're built on;

I'm in a 100 year flood plane, and have wind and water insurance in addition to homeowners; my house is built on steel-reinforced concrete pylons, at least a square foot wide, and steel beams. The beams are also anchored into the ground, I forget how deep.

I look at those "little sticks" holding up these often large houses and just shake my head.

Here's one I was considering in the Gulf, on a sandbar, until I noticed the high tide line halfway under the house:



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