If I was going to make a module....

[spakuloid]

A LOT of the sounds people seem to be asking for out of a module require pedals and/or outboard gear to get. I mean for example Eric Johnson is simple = Basic Marshall or Fender Modules du jour + tape delay + chorus + fuzz + RMC style Wah and maybe a couple of 9 volt batteries that "sound" good.

How about a DUMBLE OVERDRIVE SPECIAL module that actually goes from CRYSTAL CLEAN on channel A to some grinding dirt on the B Channel.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I have a gorilla built and a rocktron pro gap!

 

[guitarslinger]

I have a gorilla built and a rocktron pro gap!

so, you will build solid state modules?

Jazz chorus clean with chorus
Dimebag century 200 module
Dimebag RG100HT module

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I have a gorilla built and a rocktron pro gap!

so, you will build solid state modules?

Jazz chorus clean with chorus
Dimebag century 200 module
Dimebag RG100HT module

I was kidding..not out of the question

 

[EWSEthan]

Pornografitti was MP-1 through Macintosh. III Sides was Soldano SuperLead 60 for rhythm and a solid state GK head for leads, except "Stop the World" lead which was one of those solid state Marshall mini amps. Waiting for the Punchline was a Fender Vibroking reissue through a Marshall 4x12 with 1 slightly microphonic preamp tube.

Honestly, Im not interested in any more modded Marshall modules. I dont think we need a late 70s / early 80s EVH module... the EG3/4 or SL2 are close enough where the rest is up to guitar and hands.

And I agree with Spak. Alot of tones mentioned are combinations of modules we have with different effects and playing styles. Except for the solid state sounding modules which I think would be really hard to accomplish in a module.

What we dont have is anything that does the Chevelle, Petrucci (non-Rectifier), Lamb of God thing.

 

[EWSEthan]

+1 on nuno's tone....i'd love to get that tone from III sides...but that's me

eric

If you can play like Nuno an Alder superstrat with a Bill Lawrence L-500L running through an EG5 will get you pretty darn close.

I CANT play like Nuno so even if I had his rig I wouldnt sound at all like him!

 

[spakuloid]

Honestly, Im not interested in any more modded Marshall modules. I dont think we need a late 70s / early 80s EVH module... the EG3/4 or SL2 are close enough where the rest is up to guitar and hands..

1000000% agreed! If you can't nail the EVH tone from ANY album pre 5150 with what Egnater has to offer already - you are either deaf or you suck. You also need to change power tubes to some hot EL34's for VH if you are picking nat shit - I mean his guitar tone is trebly and a bit fizzy to me. Not to say that i don't LOVE the songs and the playing - I'm talking basic tone here.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

word

 

[EWSEthan]

word

So Jeff, does that mean that you agree with us and are going to start cooking up a Mark IIc+ high gain module?

 

[Buckeyedog]

Mesa Mk II/IV

Yes please!!!

+1

+2

 

[spakuloid]

I am just curious for those of you who want a MESA MK II/IV module - exactly what part of that sound can you not get out of the COD or the DELUXE module? I mean to me the COD module covers that territory pretty well (minus the graphic EQ) but - forgive me of my ignorance as it has been a while since I've played one - I thought part of the sound of the Mark series Boogies is the power tube section and the wood cabinets. I mean - why can't you run a different set of power tubes and speakers and nail that tone with the COD ?

 

[bstaley]

I am just curious for those of you who want a MESA MK II/IV module - exactly what part of that sound can you not get out of the COD or the DELUXE module? I mean to me the COD module covers that territory pretty well (minus the graphic EQ) but - forgive me of my ignorance as it has been a while since I've played one - I thought part of the sound of the Mark series Boogies is the power tube section and the wood cabinets. I mean - why can't you run a different set of power tubes and speakers and nail that tone with the COD ?

When I think a perfect MKIV high gain tone I think of something like this:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/gallery_artis ... ucci3.html

I cannot get my COD to sound like that. There is not quite enough gain and the bottom end is too loose. The COD is actually growing on me, but it cannot sound anything like the tone in this video.

When I think of MKIIC+ sound I think Master Of Puppets.

If Bruce could get Petrucci's lead tone and Metallica's rhythm tone in one module he would take over the world.

 

[EWSEthan]

I am just curious for those of you who want a MESA MK II/IV module - exactly what part of that sound can you not get out of the COD or the DELUXE module? I mean to me the COD module covers that territory pretty well (minus the graphic EQ) but - forgive me of my ignorance as it has been a while since I've played one - I thought part of the sound of the Mark series Boogies is the power tube section and the wood cabinets. I mean - why can't you run a different set of power tubes and speakers and nail that tone with the COD ?

When I think a perfect MKIV high gain tone I think of something like this:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/gallery_artis ... ucci3.html

I cannot get my COD to sound like that. There is not quite enough gain and the bottom end is too loose. The COD is actually growing on me, but it cannot sound anything like the tone in this video.

When I think of MKIIC+ sound I think Master Of Puppets.

If Bruce could get Petrucci's lead tone and Metallica's rhythm tone in one module he would take over the world.

I agree. The Deluxe clearly doesnt have enough gain. The COD... Im not sure. It might have enough gain (Petrucci and Chevelle actually dont use as much as you think) but the voicing and feel is just not the same. Its definitely a lead player's module so I think with a little more gain and a rack the size of a warehouse you could get in the Petrucci ballpark. But I would never play any Dream Theater or Chevelle rhythms with it. Just not tight like that.

I actually find the COD is tough to EQ. Its actually the only Eggie module that I think that about (maybe it IS like a Mesa afterall ) Just sounds and feels nothing like a Mark set for destruction.

I guess the ultimate new module would have to consider the optimum graphic EQ settings from a Mark IV and sort of build them into the two channels. Channel A would be your Chevelle grinder and channel B would be your Petrucci lead tone. THAT would be killer. In this case, B would be probably derived from COD but with more gain and tweaked to me more Mesa, less Dumble.

 

[Buckeyedog]

I haven't played the COD, but for me it would be bone crushing tight rythym and that upper mid bite liquid lead. Like B said, Metallica and Pettrucci or I even like the old Night Ranger tones for crunch and lead. I think Brad used Boogies for is tone.

Not sure from what I've heard that the COD can get there.

 

[spakuloid]

Got it. Cool video. Everyone you mentioned uses rack outboard gear. and the Petrucci video shows and explains a very rack oriented and compressed guitar sound. Even the distortion channels he goes through are compressed and it not pedal style attacky compression. I think you can nail that tone easily with the COD and the EG3/4 and the right combo of power tubes/speakers. His effect sounds can be nailed using the G Force by TC - in fact they sound like the pre sets to me. This is not a pre amp modular thing to get this tone though. This is a heavily processed rack guitar rig. Even his basic sounds are going through at LEAST a noise gate - an EQ and a compressor. At LEAST. I mean to me - if you want this sound - buy the TC G Force or similar - put it through the serial loop and it is a no brainer with the COD 3/4 or MHG. You'll be programming effects and EQ's and midi stuff for days on the TC - but that IS his sound. No additional modules needed IMHO.

Was Petrucci always this buff?

 

[jmgman69]

Got it. Cool video. Everyone you mentioned uses rack outboard gear. and the Petrucci video shows and explains a very rack oriented and compressed guitar sound. Even the distortion channels he goes through are compressed and it not pedal style attacky compression. I think you can nail that tone easily with the COD and the EG3/4 and the right combo of power tubes/speakers. His effect sounds can be nailed using the G Force by TC - in fact they sound like the pre sets to me. This is not a pre amp modular thing to get this tone though. This is a heavily processed rack guitar rig. Even his basic sounds are going through at LEAST a noise gate - an EQ and a compressor. At LEAST. I mean to me - if you want this sound - buy the TC G Force or similar - put it through the serial loop and it is a no brainer with the COD 3/4 or MHG. You'll be programming effects and EQ's and midi stuff for days on the TC - but that IS his sound. No additional modules needed IMHO.

Was Petrucci always this buff?

He has to be to carry the that fucking huge rack

 

[spakuloid]

And one other thing... I forgot ... this rig... it's stereo. That is quite a bit to ask for in a pre amp module.

You guys should check out the Tourmaster amps when you can. Egnater did a very nice job on those. I think a module with the midrange button and roll off knob like the one on each channel of the tourmaster amp channels would be very cool. The distortion on those amps is right up the petrucci alley - and the clean channels are CRYSTAL with lots of headroom. You can NOT get a vox sound out of them though. Very tight and compressed but BIG. And I think that has a lot to do with the 4 6L6's and the 80 watt speakers. Just FYI. It is a great product at a great price.

 

[bstaley]

Got it. Cool video. Everyone you mentioned uses rack outboard gear. and the Petrucci video shows and explains a very rack oriented and compressed guitar sound. Even the distortion channels he goes through are compressed and it not pedal style attacky compression. I think you can nail that tone easily with the COD and the EG3/4 and the right combo of power tubes/speakers. His effect sounds can be nailed using the G Force by TC - in fact they sound like the pre sets to me. This is not a pre amp modular thing to get this tone though. This is a heavily processed rack guitar rig. Even his basic sounds are going through at LEAST a noise gate - an EQ and a compressor. At LEAST. I mean to me - if you want this sound - buy the TC G Force or similar - put it through the serial loop and it is a no brainer with the COD 3/4 or MHG. You'll be programming effects and EQ's and midi stuff for days on the TC - but that IS his sound. No additional modules needed IMHO.

Was Petrucci always this buff?

I have to disagree a bit. I am not referring to his effects at all. Actually there is a part of the video at the 5:30 mark where he plays his rhythm tone with almost no effects. The tightness and gain that are there are not possible (for me) using the COD module. There is also a "snarl" in the midrange that I love. I have a TC G-System and I have tried using a clean boost with the compressor and it does not get that tone. It's a cool tone, but not a Metal tone.

I think Egnater has just about every flavor of Marshall covered, unless he directly wants to copy somebody elses stuff. The one thing he doesn't have is the "Mesa flavor" of a metal tone. The COD to me sounds more like the mid gain Boogies. If I was playing a Santana song I would go to the COD for example.

 

[jkdsteve]

I always assume the UXL was intended to cop a Mesa Mk type high gain tone....or in Randall Terms Ultra/UltraXL and if you wanted the smooth lead tone... Ultra Lead.

 

[Godfail]

Something made to sound like Dime's sound is pretty lacking - anything solid state sounding, really. I know it sounds ridiculous to request that, but most modeling systems offer something similar, it just makes sense to make it available.