If I was going to make a module....

[EWSEthan]

Got it. Cool video. Everyone you mentioned uses rack outboard gear. and the Petrucci video shows and explains a very rack oriented and compressed guitar sound. Even the distortion channels he goes through are compressed and it not pedal style attacky compression. I think you can nail that tone easily with the COD and the EG3/4 and the right combo of power tubes/speakers. His effect sounds can be nailed using the G Force by TC - in fact they sound like the pre sets to me. This is not a pre amp modular thing to get this tone though. This is a heavily processed rack guitar rig. Even his basic sounds are going through at LEAST a noise gate - an EQ and a compressor. At LEAST. I mean to me - if you want this sound - buy the TC G Force or similar - put it through the serial loop and it is a no brainer with the COD 3/4 or MHG. You'll be programming effects and EQ's and midi stuff for days on the TC - but that IS his sound. No additional modules needed IMHO.

Was Petrucci always this buff?

I have to disagree a bit. I am not referring to his effects at all. Actually there is a part of the video at the 5:30 mark where he plays his rhythm tone with almost no effects. The tightness and gain that are there are not possible (for me) using the COD module. There is also a "snarl" in the midrange that I love. I have a TC G-System and I have tried using a clean boost with the compressor and it does not get that tone. It's a cool tone, but not a Metal tone.

I think Egnater has just about every flavor of Marshall covered, unless he directly wants to copy somebody elses stuff. The one thing he doesn't have is the "Mesa flavor" of a metal tone. The COD to me sounds more like the mid gain Boogies. If I was playing a Santana song I would go to the COD for example.

+1. I havent found a way to dial in the COD to sound tight and aggressive. Which is fine. I dont think its supposed to do that. Like I said, I found it finnicky to dial in, but the lead tone with some delay is definitely awesome.

But Spak, comparing a COD and a Mark IV dry, I dont think there is any way to get the COD to do the Mark IV high gain rhythm sound. If there is, someone tell me. I havent found it yet.

 

[EWSEthan]

Got it. Cool video. Everyone you mentioned uses rack outboard gear.

Not true. Chevelle is pretty dry. Check out the tone on "The Clincher" from the This Type of Thinking album. I dont think you can get that out of a COD.

 

[guitarslinger]

I can't believe I didn't think of this:

a VHT UL preamp copy

 

[aeroic]

I agree w/ Matt on this one. I really like the COD, but I do feel its more classic boogie (santana, etc). I would love to be able to get the "crunch" tone that JP had on that video. It had a throaty growl that was VERY articulate. It would be a killer match to the EG5 which is a very raw and powerful sound, and I love .

Eric

 

[Superunknown]

How about a module influenced/based around the Cameron tone?

Channel A = CCV
Channel B = CCM

Other tone ideas (amps listed just for reference
Cornford
Divided by 13
Supro (based around Page's early Zepp tone)
Caron-Ann OD2 (Channel A = Texas, Channel B = HG)
Elmwood Modena

Just wanted to say that I still LOVE my EG5!!!!!

 

[Gino]

I am interested in a module that I will call the "Spanish Fly". I don't care what it sounds like as long as it gets the job done.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Mesa Mk II/IV

Yes please!!!

I would look at the 1987 Whitesnake cd or the first Blue Murder cd for this type of tone.

 

[jimosity]

Here's what I suggested on the Randall boards, but since Egnater actually cares and could do it right...

I'd still LOVE to have a solid state clean module...

 

[aeroic]

Here's what I suggested on the Randall boards, but since Egnater actually cares and could do it right...

I'd still LOVE to have a solid state clean module...

Wow man...that's sooo awesome!!! That a Dual Channel Module would ROCK!!!

+1 for that. I want one .

Eric

 

[bduersch]

Nice, Jim!

Gotta agree with that... a Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be my top pick. I played Mesa (Triaxis, Mark III/IV, others) for years, and there's nothing in the Egnater lineup that really cops that tone/feel. Totally dig the idea of one/both of the channels having the graphic-EQ (even if it is knobs instead of sliders). I would, quite possibly, ask to have that module buried with me.

--B

 

[bstaley]

Nice, Jim!
I would, quite possibly, ask to have that module buried with me.

--B

LMFAO!!!

 

[jimosity]

Maybe this would be more feasible...with a smaller graphic EQ, more like a Boss pedal, as well as retaining the bass/mid/highs and adding a presence control maybe...or maybe leave out the presence control in favor of a switch to change voicings to cover more tonal territory?
Hmm.

Of course I would get a comp'd one, right?

 

[hank]

I have a gorilla built and a rocktron pro gap!

so, you will build solid state modules?

Jazz chorus clean with chorus
Dimebag century 200 module
Dimebag RG100HT module

I was kidding..not out of the question

then the ultimate SS metal amp - Ampeg VH140C
See the reviews on Harmony Central
And it's not in production so you wouldn't be stepping on anybodies toes

 

[hank]

Nice, Jim!

Gotta agree with that... a Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be my top pick...

I would absolutely have to buy that module also

 

[EWSEthan]

The market has spoken! Jeff / Bruce, please make it happen!

 

[aeroic]

Maybe this would be more feasible...with a smaller graphic EQ, more like a Boss pedal, as well as retaining the bass/mid/highs and adding a presence control maybe...or maybe leave out the presence control in favor of a switch to change voicings to cover more tonal territory?
Hmm.

Of course I would get a comp'd one, right?

I vote for one of these!!!! That looks awesome too. In line w/ the other Eggie modules. I'd buy one for sure if this were available.

Eric

 

[bduersch]

Maybe this would be more feasible...with a smaller graphic EQ, more like a Boss pedal, as well as retaining the bass/mid/highs and adding a presence control maybe...or maybe leave out the presence control in favor of a switch to change voicings to cover more tonal territory?
Hmm.

That's pretty hot... I kept staring at it thinking that the EQ sliders could just be decorative, permanently fixed in the "classic Mesa V" shape...

Then I realized, it still doesn't have enough tone-shaping options to look like a real Mesa amp, thus...

That's more like it. This may be the first-ever module to have a list price of $900.

--B

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

Ya all that shit in our current module size would never happen..it would have to be at least the size of 2 of them side by side. We have toyed with doing a fixed power section with one huge pre amp slid into the front...like a traditional amp front say like a JCM 800 looking panel and you pull it out and slide in another of your choice. The options being show would be doable in this platform. Been messing with the Eq module also.

Orginally we built COD with much more gain...I have this on my bench now and we are toying with the idea of offering 2 COD modules since you gain heads want more!

 

[bstaley]

Ya all that shit in our current module size would never happen..it would have to be at least the size of 2 of them side by side. We have toyed with doing a fixed power section with one huge pre amp slid into the front...like a traditional amp front say like a JCM 800 looking panel and you pull it out and slide in another of your choice. The options being show would be doable in this platform. Been messing with the Eq module also.

Orginally we built COD with much more gain...I have this on my bench now and we are toying with the idea of offering 2 COD modules since you gain heads want more!

Jeff, you guys could either make a full one rackspace module, or perhaps do it in the current size but without the graphic EQ. I believe when you have a MKII/IV dialed in for high gain they don't sound THAT different so maybe the bright 3-way switch could just have some preset EQ curves like Smooth, Medium and Aggressive.

How does one go about getting the "high gain" version of the COD? That's what I've wanted all along.

 

[aeroic]

Ya all that shit in our current module size would never happen..it would have to be at least the size of 2 of them side by side. We have toyed with doing a fixed power section with one huge pre amp slid into the front...like a traditional amp front say like a JCM 800 looking panel and you pull it out and slide in another of your choice. The options being show would be doable in this platform. Been messing with the Eq module also.

Orginally we built COD with much more gain...I have this on my bench now and we are toying with the idea of offering 2 COD modules since you gain heads want more!

jeff:

the gain is one of the problems w/ the COD modules I agree. But moreso, its the voicing that is the biggest issue. It really sounds more "old school" boogie which I really like for bluesy stuff, and some poppy rock lead tones. But where I see the need is a more aggressive boogie sound (not the rectifier sound) but moreso the Dream Theater / Chevelle / Metallica type of tone that has a great midrange growl which is more modern sounding than the COD. The COD is a great module, which I find VERY useful for leads and rockin bluesy stuff, but I agree with others that the voicing (for heavier rock / metal) is just not there. I really love the EG5, but I find at times I would like a more aggressive sounding also that's very tight and punchy like the EG5, but more voiced in the Mark IIc+ and Mark IV type of settings.

Eric