If I was going to make a module....

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Engl SE or Powerball high gain
Diezel VH4 high gain
Hiwatt DR504 distortion
Bogner Uberschall high gain (duh)
Rivera K100/KTRE/TBR series preamp high gain
Sunn Model T distortion
+1 VHT (Deliverance or Pitbull)
+1 Mesa IV
+1 Orange
+1 Matchless

Granted all of the above would have the Egnater twist. Even though I generally use high gain amps, I roll the gain almost all the way back (between 9-11 o'clock depending upon which of the above). I'd especially love a Rivera-ish module. I wish I hadn't sold my K100. 'Twas a sad day...
 
aeroic":1yxd3ufi said:
Jeff Hilligan":1yxd3ufi said:
Ya all that shit in our current module size would never happen..it would have to be at least the size of 2 of them side by side. We have toyed with doing a fixed power section with one huge pre amp slid into the front...like a traditional amp front say like a JCM 800 looking panel and you pull it out and slide in another of your choice. The options being show would be doable in this platform. Been messing with the Eq module also.

Orginally we built COD with much more gain...I have this on my bench now and we are toying with the idea of offering 2 COD modules since you gain heads want more!

jeff:

the gain is one of the problems w/ the COD modules I agree. But moreso, its the voicing that is the biggest issue. It really sounds more "old school" boogie which I really like for bluesy stuff, and some poppy rock lead tones. But where I see the need is a more aggressive boogie sound (not the rectifier sound) but moreso the Dream Theater / Chevelle / Metallica type of tone that has a great midrange growl which is more modern sounding than the COD. The COD is a great module, which I find VERY useful for leads and rockin bluesy stuff, but I agree with others that the voicing (for heavier rock / metal) is just not there. I really love the EG5, but I find at times I would like a more aggressive sounding also that's very tight and punchy like the EG5, but more voiced in the Mark IIc+ and Mark IV type of settings.

Eric

yeah, what Eric said!
 
aeroic":2cddyg2c said:
Jeff Hilligan":2cddyg2c said:
Ya all that shit in our current module size would never happen..it would have to be at least the size of 2 of them side by side. We have toyed with doing a fixed power section with one huge pre amp slid into the front...like a traditional amp front say like a JCM 800 looking panel and you pull it out and slide in another of your choice. The options being show would be doable in this platform. Been messing with the Eq module also.

Orginally we built COD with much more gain...I have this on my bench now and we are toying with the idea of offering 2 COD modules since you gain heads want more!

jeff:

the gain is one of the problems w/ the COD modules I agree. But moreso, its the voicing that is the biggest issue. It really sounds more "old school" boogie which I really like for bluesy stuff, and some poppy rock lead tones. But where I see the need is a more aggressive boogie sound (not the rectifier sound) but moreso the Dream Theater / Chevelle / Metallica type of tone that has a great midrange growl which is more modern sounding than the COD. The COD is a great module, which I find VERY useful for leads and rockin bluesy stuff, but I agree with others that the voicing (for heavier rock / metal) is just not there. I really love the EG5, but I find at times I would like a more aggressive sounding also that's very tight and punchy like the EG5, but more voiced in the Mark IIc+ and Mark IV type of settings.

Eric

+1 its not just lack of gain. COD channel B has a pretty good amount actually. Its voicing and feel. The COD is awesome at what it does. But I dont think it sounds anything like a Mark IV's lead channel.
 
BIG +! on a Mark IIC+ Rhythm/Mark IV lead sound.

Instead of a "Bass boost" Like on the two Channel mods I'd have a mid Gain switch (Ala Mark IV) That is switchable (I'd like the availability to select for both channels possibly)

I actually OWN a Mark IV and it's my Main gigging amp. However this module done right could make me jump to the two channel bandwagon. (Currently I have an RM4-RT2/50 and a few Egnater single modules, I don't gig with it because it's CRAZY heavy!)

The one thing that HAS to be right is the attack. I find the Egnater attack adequate, but not like the Boogies. (Personally) I'd want a pick attack that will KNOCK YOU OVER like a ton of bricks! Put the Bass control POST gain so it doesn't flub up. The "mid Gain" (Maybe have the Mid EQ knob pre-gain?) switch will help you choose more of a scooped sound or the very VOCAL midrange sweet lead sound the mark is known for.

Lastly, I'm a "Half V" kind of guy, meaning I do NOT boost the high end (This is my issue with Boogie's "Contour" switch on some of their amps), so perhaps that is where the "Bright Switch" would apply whether you want the high end of the "V" Engaged. I Find myself making a VERY DEEP "Half V" though, mids sucked real low.

I mean a Graphic EQ would certainly be cool, but doable? Who knows. Basically, High Gain pretty scooped Rhythm channel and a mid boosted lead channel both with a strong pick attack and VERY articulate.
 
How about an acoustical simulator module? I could put a great deal of playing time in on such a beast. I had heard rumors that Randall was going to come out with one but it's never materialized. It would be kind of neat to have a 2 channel version.

Michael
 
MichaelG":155q9rc7 said:
How about an acoustical simulator module? I could put a great deal of playing time in on such a beast. I had heard rumors that Randall was going to come out with one but it's never materialized. It would be kind of neat to have a 2 channel version.

Michael
I was gonna say that! :D
 
I got one of the old/new VC66 modules and man the tone she has is sweet.

 

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PLEASE do not stack that fender on top of the Mod 50 like that. :gethim: ;)


Idea for a module (although probably hard to do without EL84) : Suhr Badger-style
But having a module that has mark IV rhythm in the top and high-gained Mark IIc+ in the bottom would be amazing. I would by one today. I am sure your current tone-shaping MIDDLE and TREBLE would do juse fine for EQing.


BTW Jeff: Got the Sl2 and VX (really quick!, no duties to pay either - wtf? ), simply amazing. The SL2 is sick. Thanks for taking care of my order like that. Love you guys.
 
I think its clear the high gain Mark module idea is a winner in the eyes of the Eghead faithful. I dont think we need graphic EQ and all that stuff to be honest. Just the regular Bass, Middle, and Treble on the module. I trust that Team Eggie would voice the module nicely so we dont have to worry about EQing all that much. I mean, honestly, most of these modules you could leave everything at Noon and they sound great. These guys have a great ears.

I have no idea how to build amps, but I think in the current form of the dual channel modules with Team Eggie this has got to be possible. I mean, these guys are tone magicians. I think the major roadblocks are time and priority with everything else theyve got going on.
 
EWSEthan":3mz2ugdz said:
I think its clear the high gain Mark module idea is a winner in the eyes of the Eghead faithful. I dont think we need graphic EQ and all that stuff to be honest. Just the regular Bass, Middle, and Treble on the module. I trust that Team Eggie would voice the module nicely so we dont have to worry about EQing all that much. I mean, honestly, most of these modules you could leave everything at Noon and they sound great. These guys have a great ears.

I have no idea how to build amps, but I think in the current form of the dual channel modules with Team Eggie this has got to be possible. I mean, these guys are tone magicians. I think the major roadblocks are time and priority with everything else theyve got going on.

+1 on that. I agree that although it looks cool to have the Graphic EQ in concept, I think in reality Bruce and Frank know how to make killer tone! And that a standard looking module will kick some major booty. I would love to have a Mark module in my arsenal as just another tone.

For me, I can get a VAST amount of tones w/ the T/D, VX, SL2, and EG5 in my main rig today. I would just love to have the option of a little more Mark metal / hard rock tone :).

Eric
 
TheRegime said:
PLEASE do not stack that fender on top of the Mod 50 like that. :gethim: ;)


Dude, that is a '66 blackface Vibro Champ 100% original, even the tubes. These are the kind amps that get modules named after them, andstack on top of your 50 if you got one. If you think that set up is sick, you should see it when I stack the MOD50 on top of the Budda Superdrive 80. Now that is an impressive array of tones, and super loud at that. It's all about tone to me. I dig the SL2 more than the EG5. I know, flame away. It's just a super sounding warm module. My EG5 makes a little to much noise for my taste, but it does have an awesome tone. I just don't know about recording with that module.
 
aeroic":3qd9b1kc said:
EWSEthan":3qd9b1kc said:
I think its clear the high gain Mark module idea is a winner in the eyes of the Eghead faithful. I dont think we need graphic EQ and all that stuff to be honest. Just the regular Bass, Middle, and Treble on the module. I trust that Team Eggie would voice the module nicely so we dont have to worry about EQing all that much. I mean, honestly, most of these modules you could leave everything at Noon and they sound great. These guys have a great ears.

I have no idea how to build amps, but I think in the current form of the dual channel modules with Team Eggie this has got to be possible. I mean, these guys are tone magicians. I think the major roadblocks are time and priority with everything else theyve got going on.

+1 on that. I agree that although it looks cool to have the Graphic EQ in concept, I think in reality Bruce and Frank know how to make killer tone! And that a standard looking module will kick some major booty. I would love to have a Mark module in my arsenal as just another tone.

For me, I can get a VAST amount of tones w/ the T/D, VX, SL2, and EG5 in my main rig today. I would just love to have the option of a little more Mark metal / hard rock tone :).

Eric

+2 :thumbsup:
 
Don't discount the graphic EQ idea... It's sure make an awfully powerful selling point just by being different.
The tone aside, it would really be pushing the progress of the modular idea into the next step.
 
jimosity":9v9zc2f5 said:
Don't discount the graphic EQ idea... It's sure make an awfully powerful selling point just by being different.
The tone aside, it would really be pushing the progress of the modular idea into the next step.

Oh man, I'm not. I'd love to have it, but having a lot of circuit design under my belt, it will be a pretty difficult feat to get much more crammed into the small board they have today, and secondly be able to keep the heat down, and thirdly keep it as reliable as they are today.

I want bad-a$$ tone more than I want uber-flexibility. Knowing Bruce, Frank, and Jeff's ear being what they are, I have NO DOUBT they'd hit the nail on the head, where the graphic EQ deal wouldn't be that useful. :) Think today, most modules you can set at 12 o'clock and they sound superb!

Eric
 
bduersch":2rg56l2t said:
Nice, Jim!

Gotta agree with that... a Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be my top pick. I played Mesa (Triaxis, Mark III/IV, others) for years, and there's nothing in the Egnater lineup that really cops that tone/feel. Totally dig the idea of one/both of the channels having the graphic-EQ (even if it is knobs instead of sliders). I would, quite possibly, ask to have that module buried with me.

--B

That would be a great module. I think for guys who have the MOD 50 it is nice having enough gain in the channel A for a variety of styles and responsive enough when rolling back the gain to copy lighter rock styles while having an EQ that is geared toward rhtyhm. Channel B could have an EQ geared more toward lead, hence more midrange. The EG3/4 sounds close but not enough gain in the 3 channel. The Mark-type module with a IIc rhythm tone (Metallica) & IV lead tone (Petrucci) would be perfect. :thumbsup:
 
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