Monkey Man
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The love of money...
Imagine that! A gigantic healthcare CEO murdered. Who’d of thunk…?
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VonBonfire
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And yet if it was our business we would expect the people we placed in charge of it to run it profitably. Unscrupulous owners driven only by profit margins, unscrupulous CEO's who will hurt common people to make themselves look good at their jobs, unscrupulous policy holders who equally would love to get their insurer to pay for stuff they don't really need or just overuse of emergency rooms and visits for sniffles, etc.
I think "insurance" of pretty much every sort is in a state of crisis. We are paying $270 a month just for full coverage on a Jeep Wrangler. Maybe I should go put a bullet in the CEO of Geico.
rsm
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And yet if it was our business we would expect the people we placed in charge of it to run it profitably. Unscrupulous owners driven only by profit margins, unscrupulous CEO's who will hurt common people to make themselves look good at their jobs, unscrupulous policy holders who equally would love to get their insurer to pay for stuff they don't really need or just overuse of emergency rooms and visits for sniffles, etc.
I think "insurance" of pretty much every sort is in a state of crisis. We are paying $270 a month just for full coverage on a Jeep Wrangler. Maybe I should go put a bullet in the CEO of Geico.
Identifying and discussing something doesn't equate to agreement, acceptance, or disagreement. The fact is the healthcare and insurance system is broken, and people are dying and/or going bankrupt because of it. Not all will simply accept that fate quietly and do nothing.
There's a balance that's missing. The healthcare system, homeless, Veteran's Affairs. public education, etc. that are broken and rewarding bad behavior over good behavior, or creating a situation that invites greed, avarice, corruption, etc. under the oversight of government, laundering money and taking advantage to enrich themselves at the expense of citizens, and with healthcare, their lives.
Healthcare and insurance, obviously intertwined with government, are a matter of life and death. It's only a matter of time before something like this happened; I would not be surprised if this starts a trend.
JackBootedThug
MURDERATOR
Understand completely brother. But- what about these ghouls running these companies causing death and suffering for mammon on a large scale? Which is worse?
Floyd Eye
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It was a B&T Station 6. Suppressor is integral and in this case very likely was a fake "Training" suppressor. The gun didn't jam. The way it's cocked and fired is convoluted. It's essentially a single shot closed bolt pistol based on the WWII era Welrod pistol.
In any case, no way the guy was a pro. If he was you wouldn't have any pictures of him and he definitely wouldn't have used that gun.
https://www.shootingillustrated.com/content/review-b-t-station-six-9-pistol/
JackBootedThug
MURDERATOR
That’s what people don’t understand…maybe because of my career choice but I realized a long time ago that there are people out there who walk to the beat of a different drummer. Or they are just as fucked up as a tree full of owls. Some people really believe in an eye for an eye. I guarantee that dude lost a loved one or had someone he cared about suffer tremendously. That’s his motivation. The ceo was the focus of his ire. And there you go…A to the K motherfucker….
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VonBonfire
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If we are promised the gift of life eternal then what does death at the hands of evil men mean? Nothing. Life should be lived in preparation for death, for martyrdom if necessary.
Deuteronomy 32:35
Vengeance is Mine, and recompense;
Their foot shall slip in due time;
For the day of their calamity is at hand,
And the things to come hasten upon them.’
JackBootedThug
MURDERATOR
Yup
revenge is for the faithless and impatient…. But I understand…Lord forgive me I understand…
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VonBonfire
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It Is very difficult. It's our fallen nature that makes revenge seem sweet. How many times have we taken our revenge in smaller ways? But revenge doesn't bring back our loved ones or change what has happened, the Lord does. The Lord ordered Peter to sheath his sword, and healed the ear of the soldier who was trying to arrest him. We are ORDERED to forgive those who have wronged us or we will not be forgiven. If we have hated our brother than we have murdered him in our heart. How many times have we done that? Here is one of my favorite YouTube videos on the power of forgiveness:Yup
TheBiggestJerk
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And how many people did Universal healthcare just let die?
Wizard of Ozz
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Too soon?
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Geo
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VonBonfire
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It doesn't justify murder. It just puts the murderer on the same level of the people you are criticizing. Explain to me in detail how violence will fix the situation.
billsbigego
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Yep, fuck them. CEO of UHC gone. Who's next? GREED GREED GREED.
People in this country are pacifists. They let corporations walk all over them and they love it.
But other than bitch about it, I don't do much to fix it.
But this country is so ass backwards. Instead of focusing so much on healthcare, why are we not focusing on the companies poisoning people with food. If we had a decent food system, we would not need so much healthcare.
TheBiggestJerk
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killing the enemy solves problems. It’s why war exists. Don’t like it? Bomb it!
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VonBonfire
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The 20th century had more war and deaths from war than all previous centuries combined. Explain how we are better off now when you are here complaining about a greedy CEO. People need to have a change of heart, not more violence. Lizard brain thinking only creates more lizards.
TheBiggestJerk
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Then the change of heart needs to start with the CEO’s and the corporations the represent and the elected government officials that allow this to continue, because we all know that we’re getting robbed and exploited.
As the KJV says - “Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?” Ps 94:20
From time to time the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike.
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VonBonfire
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The change starts with the person looking back at you in the mirror. Focus on what is on your own plate and everything else will begin to follow. That's how you effect change. Shedding blood has been happening for thousands of years and nothing has changed except the quantity of blood being shed.
It's a nice saying and has some weight in reality but no kingdom is eternal except for the heavenly one.
TheBiggestJerk
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Active aggression trumps passive. And it will continue. The bulls are back in charge again. Fuck your ideals. You think the British backed down cuz some patriot felt he should make some personal changes? Nope. The change happened by killing the British not by cleaning the image. The evaluation of personal ideals is tantamount to rearranging the furniture on the Titanic. Lest I forget to mention that the insurance companies shot first and drew first blood when the put profits before people and let our families die! So there’s that. Time for talking is OVER!
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VonBonfire
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You aren't in charge of anything except you, and only partially so because that is the human condition. You're posting suggestions on a guitar forum my man, not leading the world. I appreciate your forthrightness but those methods have not proved effective or profitable, they have only lead to more violent behavior because you reap what you sow. Active violence is not the way.