Kramer Pacers, 84s and Barettas......

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Geo said:
I agree the build quality has gotten much better but the parts are still shitty. Crappy bridges and electronics and such.

The few guitars I have bought recently feel and sound pretty nice, especially for the dollar.
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Yeah the builds on the lower end Chinese/Indonesian are okay but once your paying 500$ and up the quality is there minus the proprietary pups and hardware or whatever else. With these ones at least I get aftermarket part pups and hardware like a JB and a Floyd.

The EVH Standards are a great value too for all proprietary parts I have to say and I actually like those better than the Specials.

I was pretty surprised with the 200-300$ Pacers too......I mean honestly it was a lot of guitar for the money and it was way better than 200-300$. I mean who the hell would buy a Squire for what they go for now or even an Indo Fender. Would say the build could be better on the lower end Pacers but I mean for 200-300 bucks and some change may as well ask for a pony with a unicorn too ^_^
 
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Kapo_Polenton said:
Ebony fretboard? If so, I think I just came in my pants... love the ebony boards. Wish Charvel would throw those more in the mix on their super stock and other special editions.
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No 80s era Kramers had ebony boards except for the Proaxe, Nightswan, and Stagemasters.

The~Kid said:
For the price they are going for, nvm wear and tear with age and ageing and nvm quality control now and quality now relative to MIA/MIJ of the 80s or 90s and manufacturing in general...... I'm not taking a chance with a "vintage" or whatever tbh and stuff like this just makes a lot more sense to me and in general......
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That's fine, more for me lol

It's a sad day when the quality of a guitar is based on how tight a tolerance is on a CNC machine.

PS you can just say what you are talking about or post a link, we know how to use google. No need to post 10 tall screenshots in a message, it's annoying as hell to read this thread because of all the huge images.
Not my thing but my wife would love your Sailor Moon guitar.
 
TotallyRadGuitars said:
No 80s era Kramers had ebony boards except for the Proaxe, Nightswan, and Stagemasters.


That's fine, more for me lol

It's a sad day when the quality of a guitar is based on how tight a tolerance is on a CNC machine.

PS you can just say what you are talking about or post a link, we know how to use google. No need to post 10 tall screenshots in a message, it's annoying as hell to read this thread because of all the huge images.
Not my thing but my wife would love your Sailor Moon guitar.
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Yeah for me it's just about consistency and not saying mojo doesn't matter but I just want something that is going to offer a degree of certainty, comfort in what quality to expect and the consistency todays manufacturing and QC provides vs back then. Something that won't be hard to replace if needed or to find another but great quality and consistent as said.

The wife has good taste and yeah ironically theme is Waifu but Sailor Moon Waifu. Waifu simply means a fictional female character from an anime/manga one has crush or romantic feelings for, in this case the Sailor Scouts. It's the pronunciation of the word "wife" in English but in Japanese. Waifu ^_^
 
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The Sailor Scouts are teenagers. Like 12-16 years old.

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Anyone else have an 84 Model with FR...... what should I expect relative to a Pacer current production neck aside from maple body vs Alder on the 84?
 
And I figure the reason these are on a stupid sale is because they are phasing out this older model I'm getting for the newer 84 with Kramer USA pups, bolt through locking nut and matching front and back headstocks...... yeah with today's impeccable upper tier Indonesian build and quality...... they are all satin too....... and FR direct mounted......


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The 84 Barettas and cheap Pacers I've fondled almost all had sharp fret ends. Maybe it's because it's so dry in AZ, but other brands have not felt like that to me.
 
Rick Lee said:
The 84 Barettas and cheap Pacers I've fondled almost all had sharp fret ends. Maybe it's because it's so dry in AZ, but other brands have not felt like that to me.
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Yeah I don't think there is a "The 84 Baretta" model in production right now but yeah the lower end ones aren't all that great in that department but an easy fix.... plus they cost peanuts and under 200-300 dollars no real better or worse than some MIM Fenders or Squires or even PRS SE guitars in that sense :dunno:
 
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