Load Box vs EVH

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Exo-metal said:
The optic of how this post was created was not which load box/attenuator is everyone's favorite but which one has a robust enough design to withstand a plexi dimed into it day after day like EVH did to no end. This is about which piece can you trust the most with your high priced plexi?

Who gives a fuck about your IR...this is about saving your amp from certain peril.
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Don’t you have an EVH fanboy page saved that has the info on what he used? From the earlier pic it looks like he just used a couple 50 watt resistors wired together…like you see in tech work benches…

Or like was already posted…Power Station, Hotplate, Juice Extractor, Power Soak, Rockcrusher, Suhr RL etc…pick one they all do the same thing…
 
Racerxrated said:
Totally and utterly disagree, in my experience with the PS100, vs the Jettenuator clone I have, the Pulse(resistive)...the PS100 sounded far worse to me. Neither is ideal; without that speaker compression the NMV Marshall just doesn't sound right...but the PS altered the tone far worse IMO.

Now, of course your unit probably sounds totally different vs the Pulse/PS100....but I was disappointed with the PS100 when it just sounded like ass compared to the cheaper unit I already had. The PS is a great piece of kit though, for re amping, adding a loop etc to a vintage amp but if you need to really attenuate the signal down a bunch, the tone was just not good; and far worse than the cheaper Pulse.
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I dunno. My PS-2 sounds killer with my plexis, Wizard and Hiwatt…haven’t tried it with the Rectifier yet. It is usually set pretty low and sounds same as my amp does…
 
Sorry about that tone bro, the discussion was going sideways and I went with it.
 
Greazygeo said:
I dunno. My PS-2 sounds killer with my plexis, Wizard and Hiwatt…haven’t tried it with the Rectifier yet. It is usually set pretty low and sounds same as my amp does…
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Not my experience, at all. But, I had the PS100. Maybe the 2 is different? It was very disappointing. I waited a few months for it since it was backordered. Maybe I'd have thought it sounded good if I didn't already have the Pulse? But, in comparing them, the Pulse clearly sounded way better to me.
I've read on TGP that a few guys like the Jettenuator better than any reactive load attenuator....the Pulse is a clone. So I'm not alone, apparently. Lol
 
Greazygeo said:
I just had to go thru my Juice Extractor, had some compnents expire. It gets pretty warm as does the Hotplate.
Never tried the Power Soak myself, a friend still uses one from time to time.
The Hotplate I use more as a load than attenuation. Works better for me that way.
The PS-2 I just got recently, but for slaving / reamping I really like it. So far direct with irs, not as much. Could be my irs are not that great.
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i feel you brother. had to have a local tech rehab mine. and yes she can get cozy after prolonged use.
 
SpiderWars said:
I am at the other end of spectrum. All I do is run my variac’d/loaded Marshall into my rack. Now that you posted his epic rack rig rundown I want to add a true clean channel to that. It will probably snowball from there.

So it’s both yours and mentoneman’s fault!
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i’m a very simple guy….i simply want every tone i like available at the push of a button?
 
Some quick googling, max RMS:
Two Notes Captor: 100w
Fractal LB-2: 100w
Rivera Rockcrusher: 120w
Suhr RL: 150w
Mesa Powerhouse: 150w
Boss TAE: 150w but questionable
Power Station: 2/4 ohms 200w, 8 ohms 150w, 16 ohms 200w

I also owned a PS-2 and PS-100, returned both. Cool features but for slaving I get great results with SRL. Looks like the PS wins based on numbers though, and you know a vintage Marshall on 10 is putting out 200+ watts RMS. I've seen sources say 240w.
 
Racerxrated said:
Not my experience, at all. But, I had the PS100. Maybe the 2 is different? It was very disappointing. I waited a few months for it since it was backordered. Maybe I'd have thought it sounded good if I didn't already have the Pulse? But, in comparing them, the Pulse clearly sounded way better to me.
I've read on TGP that a few guys like the Jettenuator better than any reactive load attenuator....the Pulse is a clone. So I'm not alone, apparently. Lol
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Different power tubes / output sections for sure. I have pretty much always slaved my amps, starting with the Juice Extractor back in the early 90’s. Thru fx then out to two JMP power sections and sometimes thru a Macintosh MC 30 for a dry cab….then later the Wizard MC into the Hotplate into the Metal’s power section.

Other guitarist used Distortion + into 1959 to Power Soak then PCM 81/ 60’s then to a ss Yamaha powr amp. Later he also got a Juice Extractor and Mosvalve power amp.

PS-2 allows me to do it all in the one unit. Switches on flat and pres/ depth on zero. I think that puts it in resistive load? Have only had it a few months so far.
Now that I think about it, I should try the Hotplate and Juice Extractor itnto the PS-2’s power amp sometime.
 
Greazygeo said:
Mine was the Hush circuit stopped working. Found some caps blown so just swapped most of them out. It doesn’t get used much anymore but wanted it functional for sure.
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all this chatter is making me want to fire mine up!
the concept is so great for its time. clip indicator, 6 way splitter, para eq and hush with cab emulation.

but some cons were not having a speaker out, no selectable impedance switch, resistive vs reactive load, sorta not great cab emulation, and the eqs could have been more tc 1140 like!
 
Exo-metal said:
The optic of how this post was created was not which load box/attenuator is everyone's favorite but which one has a robust enough design to withstand a plexi dimed into it day after day like EVH did to no end. This is about which piece can you trust the most with your high priced plexi?

Who gives a fuck about your IR...this is about saving your amp from certain peril.
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I think I was told by Friedman, cant remember, that my PS-2 would handle a 100 watt SL no problem.
 
Meeotch said:
Some quick googling, max RMS:
Two Notes Captor: 100w
Fractal LB-2: 100w
Rivera Rockcrusher: 120w
Suhr RL: 150w
Mesa Powerhouse: 150w
Boss TAE: 150w but questionable
Power Station: 2/4 ohms 200w, 8 ohms 150w, 16 ohms 200w

I also owned a PS-2 and PS-100, returned both. Cool features but for slaving I get great results with SRL. Looks like the PS wins based on numbers though, and you know a vintage Marshall on 10 is putting out 200+ watts RMS. I've seen sources say 240w.
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Per the Rivera site on the mini RockRec:

Some 100watt tube amps actually can hit 170watts when maxed out. The Mini Rockrec can handle the power with ease while keeping the impedance tolerances tight. Even SVT owners can ditch their cabinet and safely load their 300watt amp when in the 4 or 16 ohm position.
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Exo-metal said:
The optic of how this post was created was not which load box/attenuator is everyone's favorite but which one has a robust enough design to withstand a plexi dimed into it day after day like EVH did to no end. This is about which piece can you trust the most with your high priced plexi?

Who gives a fuck about your IR...this is about saving your amp from certain peril.
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I get your point, but IMO, if the load box isn’t capable of reproducing a realistic tone, I’m not even going to bother finding out if it can handle an amp’s output.

I mean, if everyone here sold ya on the idea of something with a fixed IR/resistive load but can handle an amp, then ya brought it home and thought “Man, I have to fuckin’ fight this thing to get it sounding like I’d expect”, would you even use it long enough to find out if it’s going to handle your amp?

These things are of equal importance to me or it defeats the purpose.
 
Greazygeo said:
Different power tubes / output sections for sure. I have pretty much always slaved my amps, starting with the Juice Extractor back in the early 90’s. Thru fx then out to two JMP power sections and sometimes thru a Macintosh MC 30 for a dry cab….then later the Wizard MC into the Hotplate into the Metal’s power section.

Other guitarist used Distortion + into 1959 to Power Soak then PCM 81/ 60’s then to a ss Yamaha powr amp. Later he also got a Juice Extractor and Mosvalve power amp.

PS-2 allows me to do it all in the one unit. Switches on flat and pres/ depth on zero. I think that puts it in resistive load? Have only had it a few months so far.
Now that I think about it, I should try the Hotplate and Juice Extractor itnto the PS-2’s power amp sometime.
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I have a simple line out box, built by Bray, that I use for slaving to 2 SD3000s, into an old HH V800, out to 2 wet cabs. The LO box is passive-through to my dry cab, no load with the box. Have to have a cab hooked up.
Sounds so good with the dry cab vol up a little higher than the wet...
 
Meeotch said:
Some quick googling, max RMS:
Two Notes Captor: 100w
Fractal LB-2: 100w
Rivera Rockcrusher: 120w
Suhr RL: 150w
Mesa Powerhouse: 150w
Boss TAE: 150w but questionable
Power Station: 2/4 ohms 200w, 8 ohms 150w, 16 ohms 200w

I also owned a PS-2 and PS-100, returned both. Cool features but for slaving I get great results with SRL. Looks like the PS wins based on numbers though, and you know a vintage Marshall on 10 is putting out 200+ watts RMS. I've seen sources say 240w.
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I'll raise that number if boosted/double boosted, to 300w plus....both the 1959 and 2203, in the 3 page Marshall manual, admit to 170w at minimum dist levels....no boost....and the 100w rating is clean power no measurable distortion.
 
SpiderWars said:
This is actually a little more concrete and useful, also from the Rivera site:
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All I did was google Rivera Rockcrusher, and the website says
  • Load box and attenuator function up to 120W RMS capacity
If it can actually handle 300w then great.
 
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