Looking for Peavey 6505 parts

[SoooRad]

This is a case where you take the high road as a seller and send him the $35.00 and move on.
Any other decision is really not worth it.

Except that the buyer requested it be done via paypal gift to save $50.

So really, the buyer should be buying his own shit, and still saving $15, and taking it as a lesson to not make assumptions that things are going to arrive in different form than they are photographed.

 

[bionicmark]

This is a case where you take the high road as a seller and send him the $35.00 and move on.
Any other decision is really not worth it.

Gary, you know me. I had thought about that. I also thought about having him ship the amp back to me and sending him his money back. But when he went out and supposedly purchased a logo for $35 without discussing it with me first, or trying to work something out, then telling me “in order to make this transaction right, Paypal gift me $35.”, I was a little upset after thinking about it.

You have to admit that’s a pretty shitty thing to do. Not only was I forthright and accommodating during the entire transaction, I even told him that I would give him an extra foot switch for free since I had it here at the house. $40 value. I felt that he was taking advantage of me and trying to dupe me for $35 because he wants a logo on the amp. Never once did I mislead him or show the amp one way and sell him something different.

Mark

 

[bionicmark]

I’ve done a couple deals with Mark.
Talked with him on phone several times. Guy is a straight up shooter like no other.
He sells what he shows. If it’s modded ‘via taking off logos’ then it is just that.
Sounds simple enough. He’s not a swindler.

Thank you Dan. The photos are exactly what he purchased. Not to mention.. he even said the amp sounds killer and the packing was pro. It’s all principle. Not the $35. He got a fantastic amp (exactly how it looked it all the photos) and now he wants me to pay for a logo too.

 

[Apex1Rg7X]

I'm with the seller on this. It's pretty obvious that the term "mint" can be used in numerous ways but not regulated to what Reverb thinks Mint is. The amp in its current state, being "modded" is in Mint condition. No rips, tears, scratches, dents etc...I feel like a buyer should have the know how to look at those photos and determine that since their are no logos or backplate then that's probably what he will receive. A simple question to the seller would have cleared that up as well.

 

[thisguy]

Another vote for the seller. He provided good photos.

 

[Deleted member 22177]

If the buyer is so unhappy, maybe he should send the amp back to you. And you knocked $50 off!

I stay away from the word “mint” when selling, because that just gives people more room to bitch
about the item.

 

[longfxukxnhair]

I never would have called this amp mint since it is missing the items but the picture that were provided tell the story. The buyer knew what he was getting and still purchased it anyway. I side with Mark on this.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

Seems the buyer needs a crash course on how to open and look at pics..or maybe hes getting to be a old fart and needs glasses?

Either way the pics tell the whole story..if I had gotten those pics the first thing I would have noticed is the missing logo.

I'm with the seller.

 

[glip22]

This is a case where you take the high road as a seller and send him the $35.00 and move on.
Any other decision is really not worth it.

Gary, you know me. I had thought about that. I also thought about having him ship the amp back to me and sending him his money back. But when he went out and supposedly purchased a logo for $35 without discussing it with me first, or trying to work something out, then telling me “in order to make this transaction right, Paypal gift me $35.”, I was a little upset after thinking about it.

You have to admit that’s a pretty shitty thing to do. Not only was I forthright and accommodating during the entire transaction, I even told him that I would give him an extra foot switch for free since I had it here at the house. $40 value. I felt that he was taking advantage of me and trying to dupe me for $35 because he wants a logo on the amp. Never once did I mislead him or show the amp one way and sell him something different.

Mark

I do know you Mark to be standup. I see your points for sure. I do agree in hindsight you should have stated the badge was missing. Common sense says look at the pics, but not everybody connects. I'd be a little upset also if I were you. All I am saying to you, it's not worth ruining your weekend over, letting it rent space in your head. Just make him go away. PM me his Paypal and I'll gift him the 35 because you are a good Dude.

 

[japetus]

Why can't people get into their brains what "MINT" means?

 

[maddnotez]

I will sell you my entire 6505+ (used) faceplate if you leave Mark Alone.

 

[Crunchtime]

Did not read thread but I have a wood front panel you can have if you want. Just pay my shipping costs. I took it off a 6505+ I had in the past. I took it off because I think it looks better with badges mounted to metal grill, better ventilation, and that panel is actually somewhat heavy.

 

[Devin]

Well.. I’ve had some time to think about this.

Here’s the deal. Sorry... the TRUTH. I sent several pictures of the amp via email. In those photos, the amp NEVER had the wooden faceplate, logo, badges, etc on it. None. I purchased the amp without all of the aforementioned badges/wooden faceplate. I was never asked where they were or why they were not on the amp or the like, etc. AT ANY POINT IN OUR CORRESPONDENCE PRIOR TO THE SALE OR AFTER THE TRANSACTION. The amp, as it was pictured in the photos is in mint condition as stated. No dents, rips or tears in the tolex, no cracked or missing pieces off the top vent, etc. I happened to have photos in my phone that I had taken of the inside of the amp when the mods were done and sent them along as well showing immaculate work. The sale was for the amp as it was in the several photos that were sent. I gave him a price and he asked for $50 off. Fine, not a problem. Me being kind, I mentioned that I had an extra footswitch (Marshall style diecast two button with hardwired cable) that I gave him for FREE along with the unused stock Peavey footswitch. Packed to the max for safety and insured for full amount. He receives the amp, compliments the packing job, and then asks where the wooden faceplate and logos are. “You told me the amp was mint. Where are they?” I explained to him that I’m sorry and there must be a misunderstanding, but they were not in the photos, nor were they on the amp. On top of that, you didn’t inquire about them. I said there seems to be a misunderstanding and by no means was it my intention or me trying to mislead you. He said, “I thought you took it off for the photos.” Why would I do that? It makes zero sense. To remove that wooden logo and all the badges is quite the task in of itself and would take a very long time. I had sent him photos within minutes. You can see the choke, bias pot, and the power tubes from the backside of the amp. All this being said, he messages me saying I owe him $35 for a faceplate.

1. You never asked if I’d be willing to work something out like that with you. You went ahead and purchased it all on your own first and THEN emailed me saying I owe you. Wtf!?
2. You provided no proof of purchase, receipt or screen shot of said logo/purchase.

I went online after the message (upset mind you, as I feel like I’m being SCAMMED and forced into buying something that was never discussed between us & he went ahead and did this all on his own) and I found a Peavey logo for $11 on eBay.

I guess my point is, he never asked where the wooden faceplate, the badges or the logo were. He also NEVER asked if I had them in my possession. <------ read that again. The photos I sent show the amp as it is, the mod work, it's condition, and the authentic “made in the USA” sticker with the year on it. This gentleman saying I screwed him is so far from the truth, it’s f*cking upsetting.

I’ve been on this forum for many, many years and have never had an issue with anyone. I have 100% feed back here, on eBay and Reverb.

This person didn’t ask about the faceplate/logos prior to the sale & is now looking for me to pay for them because that’s what HE wants. Pass. $35 isn’t shit. It’s the principle behind it and how I feel like he’s trying to scam me into buying it.

Those of you who know me or have done deals with me throughout out the last ten years.. please chime in. Am I the “SCREWING OVER” type of person?

If it comes down to it or needs to be done, I’ll be more than happy to screen capture the entire transaction/conversation and email it to anyone who knows how to post pictures here for proof. Or, I can just copy and paste the correspondence,


Mark

ps. May I add that HE wanted to do the PayPal gift in order to knock $50 off the asking price. That was not my idea or suggestion. His statement of, "I did a PayPal gifted gentleman agreement for this amp; so I'm screwed." is bullshit. The only gentleman here is me. Scammer.

Yikes. If all that is true, OP is the worst type of buyer. Would not deal with him ever again for sure


On the flipside, in my opinion it's NEVER a good idea to say an item is "mint", even if it truly is.

 

[Devin]

Also, wtf is the point of wanting to restore the badges and all that shit on a damned modded amp?

If I had bought that amp I could not care less about the badges lol

 

[maddnotez]

The important question though. What mods were done? Sorry if I missed that.

 

[311splawndude]

Obviously I didn't have all the information when I posted last night.

I have no dog in the fight and don't know Mark or the OP. Just a few more observations:

1.) In the buyer's (OP) defense he didn't come here and bash Mark personally - like we see so often. That is pretty stand up. He purposely left the seller's name (bionicmark) out of it. Ultimately, he was just looking for help on the parts. That's is pretty admirable.

2.) It is possible that if he was looking at the pics on a phone, for example, those details may not have been seen easily.

3.) That said, Mark did send him high res pics in addition to imgur links.

4.) Mint is mint. I personally would have used the term 'excellent condition' and made it clear the logos were not there.



Me. I'd just move on. The amount of time these two have spent talking about is hopefully worth more than $35 or $50. Ask yourself - what is my time worth?

I will sell you my entire 6505+ (used) faceplate if you leave Mark Alone.

That's pretty standup maddnotez - as well as Crunchtime's offer. Great forumites roam here.

PS: I think the 'mods' performed were just the removal of the badges but maybe I'm missing something too.

 

[Deleted member 10619]

Before dismissing me and calling me “the dumbest buyer ever in the universe”. Please read my side of the story.

From our extremely brief interchange of information, the pictures supplied were supposed to illustrate what the “mods” were (bias knob and choker). The addition of a “choker” is what I saw in his pictures. The choker mod would not be visible if you had the wooden faceplate blocking the view.

And yes, this is entirely my fault for not asking him such a simple question, but in all fairness, “mint” for me is a term that means something is “like new” and is usually reserved for items that come with all original packaging, documentation and seals. This is a term I’ve rarely had an issue with on 100+ gear related transactions I’ve done throughout the years. Obviously, Mark’s definition of MINT was more focused on the tolex and general aesthetics of the amp. I got an item that is between “excellent condition” and “very good” from my perspective. Why would I rate it this way?

When I received the amp, I noticed that it arrived bent/sunken by the power output section and preamp area. It is not entirely visible on the pictures he supplied, but after having the amp in person, it is easier to pinpoint on his pictures once you know what to look for. The problem is that the camera is not focusing on the problem area I’ referencing. Mark theorized that it might’ve been damaged on shipping but the amp was extremely well packed and the bent area does not correlate with shipping damages. I simply believe that Mark never noticed this particular detail on the amp, which I can understand.

Mark was quite responsive before I mentioned all I wanted was $35 bucks to buy me the peavey logo and cover expenses. But yeah, I’m to blame for sure. I should be more skeptical about purchasing an amp stated to be in “mint” condition and ask for additional pics and whatnot.

This reminds me of a guy that had a 6505 for sale on reverb some weeks ago marked as “mint”, but I told him that the upper vent was chipped. He immediately changed the listing to excellent condition. He told me he didn’t even notice it, considering he shot the pics. Was he a dumb ass? Not really. Easy to miss small stuff like this if you have a wife, kids, job, recording music for clients.

Mark, you are a good guy, and people are jumping in to defend you for a reason. You are “ok” in my book, and I can understand you missed the bent chassis and misclassification of the actual condition of the amp. The amp sounds great and my focus at this point is to get the missing parts I believe it is missing.

The title of this thread was intended to be passive-aggressive and salty to catch people’s attention so I could get the parts I need. Now in retrospect, I believe it is childish and pure click-bait. This is not an actual dispute. The important thing is that the amp works and is overall in good condition, just isn’t what I fully expected due to misunderstandings on both sides.

Now, since I have everybody’s attention, how can I get the parts I need to finish off the amp?

 

[Mklane]

Wow! read the op and was thinking about reaching out since I think I have the wooden part but after reading the thread I'm not gonna spend the time to look for it. The pics are clear and it was known the amp was modded so technically it was no longer mint and the buyer knew that. I never describe anything as mint unless its still packaged and unopened because people take it way to literally so the seller probably should have said near mint or something but come on guys you are buying used amps! Tough times being a seller these days...

Also, if you have a MINT amp from the 90's your doing it wrong

 

[maddnotez]

Before dismissing me and calling me “the dumbest buyer ever in the universe”. Please read my side of the story.

From our extremely brief interchange of information, the pictures supplied were supposed to illustrate what the “mods” were (bias knob and choker). The addition of a “choker” is what I saw in his pictures. The choker mod would not be visible if you had the wooden faceplate blocking the view.

And yes, this is entirely my fault for not asking him such a simple question, but in all fairness, “mint” for me is a term that means something is “like new” and is usually reserved for items that come with all original packaging, documentation and seals. This is a term I’ve rarely had an issue with on 100+ gear related transactions I’ve done throughout the years. Obviously, Mark’s definition of MINT was more focused on the tolex and general aesthetics of the amp. I got an item that is between “excellent condition” and “very good” from my perspective. Why would I rate it this way?

When I received the amp, I noticed that it arrived bent/sunken by the power output section and preamp area. It is not entirely visible on the pictures he supplied, but after having the amp in person, it is easier to pinpoint on his pictures once you know what to look for. The problem is that the camera is not focusing on the problem area I’ referencing. Mark theorized that it might’ve been damaged on shipping but the amp was extremely well packed and the bent area does not correlate with shipping damages. I simply believe that Mark never noticed this particular detail on the amp, which I can understand.

Mark was quite responsive before I mentioned all I wanted was $35 bucks to buy me the peavey logo and cover expenses. But yeah, I’m to blame for sure. I should be more skeptical about purchasing an amp stated to be in “mint” condition and ask for additional pics and whatnot.

This reminds me of a guy that had a 6505 for sale on reverb some weeks ago marked as “mint”, but I told him that the upper vent was chipped. He immediately changed the listing to excellent condition. He told me he didn’t even notice it, considering he shot the pics. Was he a dumb ass? Not really. Easy to miss small stuff like this if you have a wife, kids, job, recording music for clients.

Mark, you are a good guy, and people are jumping in to defend you for a reason. You are “ok” in my book, and I can understand you missed the bent chassis and misclassification of the actual condition of the amp. The amp sounds great and my focus at this point is to get the missing parts I believe it is missing.

The title of this thread was intended to be passive-aggressive and salty to catch people’s attention so I could get the parts I need. Now in retrospect, I believe it is childish and pure click-bait. This is not an actual dispute. The important thing is that the amp works and is overall in good condition, just isn’t what I fully expected due to misunderstandings on both sides.

Now, since I have everybody’s attention, how can I get the parts I need to finish off the amp?

Yeah, I can see your point about the pics. Like the pics showed the choke which needed the faceplate removed and assuming MINT was MINT and it would come with faceplate.

Sucks either way you look at it.

 

[Deleted member 10619]

Wow! read the op and was thinking about reaching out since I think I have the wooden part but after reading the thread I'm not gonna spend the time to look for it. The pics are clear and it was known the amp was modded so technically it was no longer mint and the buyer knew that. I never describe anything as mint unless its still packaged and unopened because people take it way to literally so the seller probably should have said near mint or something but come on guys you are buying used amps! Tough times being a seller these days...

OP here.

I’d really appreciate if you found some time to look for the part(s). We can make the transaction public if you are concerned about me being untrustworthy.

For the record, I never called out Mark in my post. I understand he might be upset from his side of things, but he decided to make this public. All I’m looking for is the part(s) I need.