bionicmark":3mwk4w1s said:
311splawndude":3mwk4w1s said:
I disagree.
Mint is mint.
If I was going to sell someone an amp with missing badges I'd tell ya.
Pics or no pics.
It affects the OPs asking price if he ever decides to sell it down the road.
This is an iconic amp.
But there was miscommunication on both sides and I don't know either one of you so good luck with everything. Peace out.
Here’s what you don’t know. In the 8 emails/messages that we went back and forth on.
I specifically listed all the mods. Provided DETAILED/HI-RESOLUTION photos & listed what mods were done below the photo.
In these HIGH RESOLUTION PHOTOS that he viewed which, as shown, did not have the logo, badges, or faceplate on the amp. They were also never shown in any photos of the amp or talked about or discussed in our correspondence. He immediately said “I’ll take! Would you do $700 instead of $750? You’ll get $700 and avoid the fees.“ I agreed. Fine, no problem. I said I’d throw in an extra high quality footswitch for free too. On me.
NEVER ONCE did he inquire about the logos. They weren’t included in the sale so why assume.
He then informs me that he purchased a logo for $35 and tells me, TELLS ME , I owe him $35 in order to make the sale right. He never talked about or asked if I would agree to buying a logo for him. He just ASSUMED. Then comes on the forum and says he was swindled. Not the case. My description and the photos were very forthright in what he’d be getting in the sale.
The amp, as it is in the photos is in MINT condition. NOT STOCK. NOT “AS FROM THE FACTORY”. Mint condition with absolutely no wear and tear, dents or repairs.
STOCK, UN-MODDDED, AS NEW, are all different than an item that’s not damaged.
He had every opportunity to inquire, ask, question, tell me he’s looking for an amp with the logos. He did not and I sold him the amp THAT WAS IN THE PHOTOS AS DESCRIBED.
Sorry.. I disagree with you 1000%.
If, I indeed had the logos, etc, I would have promptly said they were included in the sale.
Mark
Mark,
I'm a fact based person, so let's break it down:
Item #1: The $35 bucks
I had to go back to the messages I sent you and re-read this portion. I'm perplexed that you keep insisting that I bought the Peavey Logo and was charging you upfront after my purchase.
I'm copy/pasting an extract of my last direct message and words I sent to you.
"I called Peavey parts yesterday and they can supply me with an oval logo for $35 bucks (includes shipping and taxes). I know at this point you might not feel obliged to cover the cost of the badge, but I'd appreciate if you'd consider it so we can conclude this transaction neatly."
I then told you where to send the money and wished you a good night.
Mark, if you don't feel obliged (as I explicitly told you), then there is no point in bringing this up and twisting the context behind it. You don't owe me. Will I have to pay extra for an amp I believe to be incomplete? Yes. Was I expecting you to pay me? Not really.
Item #2: OP is a dumb ass because he thinks a modded amp must include all original parts and the seller sent him pictures
You are on point with this and I assume full responsibility for thinking that the front plate would be included. I already expressed my reasoning behind this situation for anybody willing to read my previous post. Did I make a mistake? Yes. Am I a dumb ass? I don't believe so, but everyone is entitled to an opinion and we can both live a world where my definition of MINT is different to yours. Your hard evidence is the pics you sent, my hard evidence is simply a word and its perceived meaning. Your evidence carries more weight and I accept it.
Item #3: You are upset and I'm not
I can't control your reaction to my thread but in all fairness, re-read it with just my posts and you'll see that nowhere did I mention you by name nor was it my objective to dispute this transaction. You are soley responsible for bringing yourself into this. Forum members are more focused on "siding" with a party. I already explained my reasoning for me creating this thread so I won't beat around the bush. I truly wasn't expecting you to participate in this thread (there I go assuming yet again), but if you feel you have to tell your side of the story then that's fine but keep in mind you didn't "lose" anything in this transaction. You sold me something and I sent you money. I don't have any personal beef with you and ironically enough I'm very happy with the amp overall. If you want more out of this, then I can assure you that both you and I will be wasting our time.
Item #4: The amp was never in MINT condition
I've attached pics of the damaged areas I've referenced in my previous post and yet you and most people in this thread dismiss this. Again, this is not to ignite more "internet shouting" from your side and I wasn't even going to bring this up at all until you decided to chime in. I've already stated in my previous response that this can't be caused by mishandled shipping. You most likely overlooked the detail since it is really not that big of a deal. That said, it doesn't take away from the fact that the amp was not described accordingly. It would be absurd to ask "is the chassis of the amp bent by any chance?", more so if the amp was stated as MINT. I believe most people in this forum wouldn't say this amp is MINT based on my photos. Go back to your photos and you'll see that even though the area is not extremely clear to figure out entirely, you can definitely tell that the amp always had these bent areas.
My last words to everyone regarding this transaction:
I would've never bought the amp from Mark if I would've known it didn't carry the faceplate and that it had a bent/sunken chassis.
Put simply, I'm a one trip kind of guy. If I have to go back to the store or drive to another store to get something additional that is not included in a package (Apple products come to mind), then it becomes a mild nuisance (Nuisance Level: 1st World Problem). Now, does this mean I'm unhappy? Not really. Again, I love the amp and I thank you yet again for sending it my way because in the end, that is what matters, that it sounds good. I still need to add the missing parts though because of a project I'm developing in my studio. Good news is that I'm already speaking to a forum member that will be helping me out on this extracurricular endeavour.
I don't believe there is anything further to discuss Mark. Wishing you a good night and appreciate you selling me a very good sounding amp that was well protected during shipping.
Regards,
Octavio