NAD: Lenz High Octane (Lenz Is Legit)

[Dino 939]

Unclothe her and bare her nether regions to the world, m'lord

You rule dude.
Like I said, next time I’m in Texas, me & you are gonna go out and burn down the town followed by pissing on the Alamo!
Thank you for starting a parade to get me outta exile..on Main Street.
You’re a good man, I’ll take a hand grenade up the butt for you bro!!
LTFOL!!!

 

[Smash]

You rule dude.
Like I said, next time I’m in Texas, me & you are gonna go out and burn down the town followed by pissing on the Alamo!
Thank you for starting a parade to get me outta exile..on Main Street.
You’re a good man, I’ll take a hand grenade up the butt for you bro!!
LTFOL!!!

I would party with you any fuckin day, bro. So glad you are back

 

[Erock]

I think your’re the old school member that had
a great clip of a boosted Wizard from back in the days.
Good stuff dude.
I didn’t deal with any of all you mentioned except for shipping $200-$300 from Germany.
But this was almost 2 years ago

thanks man, could have been mine. I had a bunch of clips up on netmusicians.org before it went offline. These amps look very interesting.

 

[SidViscous]

Very curious how this compares to a hellrazor, the HR has been a dream amp of mine, but really digging the clips of this on YouTube

 

[Dino 939]

Can’t speak for the Hell Razor, but have owned MTL’s, MCII’s ARD Vintage Classic,
Very different in the top end mid & treble frequencies.
Completely different boner.

 

[SidViscous]

Can’t speak for the Hell Razor, but have owned MTL’s, MCII’s ARD Vintage Classic,
Very different in the top end mid & treble frequencies.
Completely different boner.

Absolutely! Wondering more on the famous wizard girth and punch, does the lenz stack up in that particular area

 

[Dino 939]

Absolutely! Wondering more on the famous wizard girth and punch, does the lenz stack up in that particular area

Dude, now that department the Lenz is likely no match
I get herds of punch in the grunt with the Lenz’s..
Wizard’s on the other hand,
are capable of popping speakers right outta baffles…the girth is what I don’t like about Wizards- the hard crusties..
It’s those feel/frequencies that differentiates the two amps.

 

[SidViscous]

Dude, now that department the Lenz is likely no match
I get herds of punch in the grunt with the Lenz’s..
Wizard’s on the other hand,
are capable of popping speakers right outta baffles…the girth is what I don’t like about Wizards- the hard crusties..
It’s those feel/frequencies that differentiates the two amps.

Very interesting indeed, you might be the first person I've heard that doesn't like the girth , but I don't know many people. Great to know that the wizard punch is still unmatched. That's pretty much what I want.

 

[Vader99]

Very interesting indeed, you might be the first person I've heard that doesn't like the girth , but I don't know many people. Great to know that the wizard punch is still unmatched. That's pretty much what I want.

Yeah wizard punch is great for riffs but hard to play leads with . You trade stiffness for headroom , easier playability comes with lower headroom unfortunately. Ive been bugging Dan Gower on if its possible to get the best of both worlds and this was his answer -

“
To be totally honest it's a combination of a bunch of things that add up to that sound. Overall those amps are designed for quite a lot of headroom using specific types of component materials, grounding style, high plate voltages, higher filtering in the power section and the preamp and phase inverter are also designed to have a drier type of response which also gives the impression of more headroom too.

Personally I like to try and find a balance, it's really no fun playing an amp that just feels like you are fighting it the whole time. Even if it sounds cool… Playing feel matters so much, and it's just boring if it doesn't have the response you like.
Getting that big powerful mid range and low end, while retaining the nice playing feel and midrange that all sounds very musical and dynamic, that’s my goal when i’m modding/rebuilding amps.”

 

[Dino 939]

Yeah wizard punch is great for riffs but hard to play leads with . You trade stiffness for headroom , easier playability comes with lower headroom unfortunately. Ive been bugging Dan Gower on if its possible to get the best of both worlds and this was his answer -

“
To be totally honest it's a combination of a bunch of things that add up to that sound. Overall those amps are designed for quite a lot of headroom using specific types of component materials, grounding style, high plate voltages, higher filtering in the power section and the preamp and phase inverter are also designed to have a drier type of response which also gives the impression of more headroom too.

Personally I like to try and find a balance, it's really no fun playing an amp that just feels like you are fighting it the whole time. Even if it sounds cool… Playing feel matters so much, and it's just boring if it doesn't have the response you like.
Getting that big powerful mid range and low end, while retaining the nice playing feel and midrange that all sounds very musical and dynamic, that’s my goal when i’m modding/rebuilding amps.”

You sound like you know somebody who’s a Wizard, LOL!
Truth about the pre-amp/phase inverter implementation..
Having owned many Wizards,
-you mention that “fight”
Dude, I distinctly remember my hands getting
a work over after jammin’ hard on the Wizards.
It’s like a nano-boldness when you get
at the nano-strike of the note.
Wizards are monsters, the midrange will own any mix.
Wizards kill coupled with Recto’s in a two-guitar band.
It sucks being the dude without the Wizard once the mix gets consumed.

 

[braintheory]

Yeah wizard punch is great for riffs but hard to play leads with . You trade stiffness for headroom , easier playability comes with lower headroom unfortunately. Ive been bugging Dan Gower on if its possible to get the best of both worlds and this was his answer -

“
To be totally honest it's a combination of a bunch of things that add up to that sound. Overall those amps are designed for quite a lot of headroom using specific types of component materials, grounding style, high plate voltages, higher filtering in the power section and the preamp and phase inverter are also designed to have a drier type of response which also gives the impression of more headroom too.

Personally I like to try and find a balance, it's really no fun playing an amp that just feels like you are fighting it the whole time. Even if it sounds cool… Playing feel matters so much, and it's just boring if it doesn't have the response you like.
Getting that big powerful mid range and low end, while retaining the nice playing feel and midrange that all sounds very musical and dynamic, that’s my goal when i’m modding/rebuilding amps.”

In general I agree, especially with the MC and MTL, but I actually really like the feel of the Hell Razor and got some lead tones I love. It required some unconventional settings though. For leads the mark iic+ is probably still my favorite (hard to rival there), but the HR may actually be in my top 3 or 4 for high gain leads too. It can get way more saturated than the MTL or MC (without any pedal involved), but still maintains that Wizard clarity and definition to the notes. Actually very fun for me to play now for things like 5 string sweep arpeggio type figures

 

[SidViscous]

In general I agree, especially with the MC and MTL, but I actually really like the feel of the Hell Razor and got some lead tones I love. It required some unconventional settings though. For leads the mark iic+ is probably still my favorite (hard to rival there), but the HR may actually be in my top 3 or 4 for high gain leads too. It can get way more saturated than the MTL or MC (without any pedal involved), but still maintains that Wizard clarity and definition to the notes. Actually very fun for me to play now for things like 5 string sweep arpeggio type figures

Interesting, curious how you think about settings on the hr when it comes to rhythm vs lead

 

[SidViscous]

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Yeah wizard punch is great for riffs but hard to play leads with . You trade stiffness for headroom , easier playability comes with lower headroom unfortunately. Ive been bugging Dan Gower on if its possible to get the best of both worlds and this was his answer -

“
To be totally honest it's a combination of a bunch of things that add up to that sound. Overall those amps are designed for quite a lot of headroom using specific types of component materials, grounding style, high plate voltages, higher filtering in the power section and the preamp and phase inverter are also designed to have a drier type of response which also gives the impression of more headroom too.

Personally I like to try and find a balance, it's really no fun playing an amp that just feels like you are fighting it the whole time. Even if it sounds cool… Playing feel matters so much, and it's just boring if it doesn't have the response you like.
Getting that big powerful mid range and low end, while retaining the nice playing feel and midrange that all sounds very musical and dynamic, that’s my goal when i’m modding/rebuilding amps.”

I Know what you mean, my fav lead tone is the blue channel on the ecstacy so I'll definitely be keeping that. I'm quite ok with having a monster that just does metal rhythm, when I tried it in the company of multiple other top tier amps, the HR just ate them all up, never quite played an amp like that before

 

[braintheory]

Interesting, curious how you think about settings on the hr when it comes to rhythm vs lead

I think the only thing I did different for leads was have the saturation knob up higher and maybe one of the gain knobs by a little bit