Neal Schon's rack these days, pic.

[maiden_fan]

This thread reaks of cork sniffery.

JVM's are awesome amps and so are the alchemists.

 

[thiswaythatway]

I remember when the JVM was the amp to have around here. What happened there?

He's had a VH4 in the past, perhaps he just wants something different. FWIW, he probably sounds great with that rig, as much as it upsets internet tonelordz. Furthermore, I'm starting to wonder how much difference you could perceive in a live environment between this rig and his last. Even more so after seeing a boutique amp builder be fooled into thinking a cheap solidstate practice amp was one of his own creations.

I owned a JVM for a few days, i bought it based on hype and without hearing it. I didn't like it at all and my Mark IV sounded much better IMHO. I'd rather play a DSL over a JVM.

I remember all the comments about the JVM, " best Marshall ever" etc etc. Funny, I've owned about 4 Marshalls and it was clearly the worst one, for me at least.

 

[Greazygeo]

I don't think there is anything wrong with the JVM. It could use a choke for more of a feel I like.

You guys kill me.

Schon is not a benchmark for good tone for me anyway......

 

[Code001]

I enjoyed the 4 channel JVM I demoed. If I was gonna buy a stock Marshall, that's what I'd get.

 

[James Lugo]

I'm not sure but I would think anything these guys used could be modded to sound great. I've heard so many great sounds on tour and then you hear the production amps and they lack bigtime. I don't know what's up with Slipknot but those Rivera's sound God awful IMO but the records sound great. $$$

 

[Jakem]

I'm not sure but I would think anything these guys used could be modded to sound great. I've heard so many great sounds on tour and then you hear the production amps and they lack bigtime.

Is it the player then?

 

[Random Hero]

I'm not sure but I would think anything these guys used could be modded to sound great. I've heard so many great sounds on tour and then you hear the production amps and they lack bigtime. I don't know what's up with Slipknot but those Rivera's sound God awful IMO but the records sound great. $$$

Hmmm...

And I'm pretty sure Rivera aren't the only amps Slipknot use on record. Look at V30s too, if you believed everything you read online, you would think they were a total piece of shit. Yet, they're the industry standard, have been used on countless records and everyone from Timmons to Landau to Petrucci *insert name here* use them with great success.

 

[muudrock]

I have a feeling he could make a rack of Valvestate combo's sound good. The man has used just about every amp under the sun and he always sounds pretty much the same. There are YT vids of him playing Crates and sounding good.
In the end, I could care less what amps he's using. I want his hands.

 

[Anonymous]

This whole "Amp Mod" thing is just gotten silly and my experience with them except one or two has been....Lotso gain with lotso noise along with it. Most are shit

 

[Greazygeo]

I'm not sure but I would think anything these guys used could be modded to sound great. I've heard so many great sounds on tour and then you hear the production amps and they lack bigtime. I don't know what's up with Slipknot but those Rivera's sound God awful IMO but the records sound great. $$$

Considering he used those horrible old Peavey Classics or whatever way back.....I've never seen anyone get those tones out of those amps.

 

[Greazygeo]

Hmmm...

And I'm pretty sure Rivera aren't the only amps Slipknot use on record. Look at V30s too, if you believed everything you read online, you would think they were a total piece of shit. Yet, they're the industry standard, have been used on countless records and everyone from Timmons to Landau to Petrucci *insert name here* use them with great success.

.....if you like those tones I guess....I've plugged into enough V30's to know they sound like crap.

 

[James Lugo]

The playing can be a part of it but a bar chord sounds like a bar chord, I've played with Neal Schon he and I's rhythm playing is nearly identical that wouldn't make that big a difference IMO. As far as amp modding, so many big artists amps have been worked on to one degree or another, an amp mod done right can make a mind blowing difference, just ask Eddie Van Halen!

 

[Digital Jams]

tough economy? i think james hit it right on the head with the dollar signs of endorsement deals. i dunno if i could do it though, hopefully his ears havent drifted to JVMs and alchy's for real from using diezels?

Different tastes I guess because I hate the 5150, cannot stand that amp.

In the end he is in the biz to make money, plain and simple.

 

[Digital Jams]

I remember when the JVM was the amp to have around here. What happened there?

He's had a VH4 in the past, perhaps he just wants something different. FWIW, he probably sounds great with that rig, as much as it upsets internet tonelordz. Furthermore, I'm starting to wonder how much difference you could perceive in a live environment between this rig and his last. Even more so after seeing a boutique amp builder be fooled into thinking a cheap solidstate practice amp was one of his own creations.

I owned a JVM for a few days, i bought it based on hype and without hearing it. I didn't like it at all and my Mark IV sounded much better IMHO. I'd rather play a DSL over a JVM.

I remember all the comments about the JVM, " best Marshall ever" etc etc. Funny, I've owned about 4 Marshalls and it was clearly the worst one, for me at least.

In the mix my JVM buried the MK IV everytime with everything at noon, not even a contest. That said my MK IV is going on the market soon, I like it alot but it aint no marshall.

 

[Anonymous]

The playing can be a part of it but a bar chord sounds like a bar chord, I've played with Neal Schon he and I's rhythm playing is nearly identical that wouldn't make that big a difference IMO. As far as amp modding so many big artists amps have been worked on to one degree or another, an amp mod done right can make a mind blowing difference, just ask Eddie Van Halen!

Key words there are "Amp mod done right" and like I said...Most are shit. Not arguing or anything but..Eddie came clean along time ago that his amps were stock but then again...who knows? who cares? As long as I have amps I'm happy with..I'm cool. I could give a rats ass why someone switched from Diezels to Marshalls and to be honest..I'd rather be playing the marshalls over the diezels (That should start a flame war...lol!)..Give me a Marshall head and an MXR distortion plus and I'll get any tone I need...It worked for years and still works to this day but...Too many damn choices and doing it that way would just be too simple and easy...Need that angst and frustration of buying amps only to flip them cuz..it doesn't sound like a Marshall head with a boost in front of it...

 

[luxxtone]

You guys (and gals, maybe) are so jaded... The Alchy's are ok, imho... You just gotta be able to make it talk...

I don't think there's too much wrong with an Alchemist either. Jerry Cantrell has them in his live rig, too.

Not anymore...Cantrell recently changed his live rig around and he's using the new 20th Bogner Shiva and a Marsha by Dave Friedman. The Alchemist and Uberschall are gone.

 

[thiswaythatway]

That said my MK IV is going on the market soon, I like it alot but it aint no marshall.

Neither is the JVM.

 

[thiswaythatway]

tough economy? i think james hit it right on the head with the dollar signs of endorsement deals. i dunno if i could do it though, hopefully his ears havent drifted to JVMs and alchy's for real from using diezels?

Different tastes I guess because I hate the 5150, cannot stand that amp.

In the end he is in the biz to make money, plain and simple.

I never had the urge to go out and buy a 5150, but damm, some engineers get the thing to sound good. It's been used on a TON of records.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

In the mix my JVM buried the MK IV everytime with everything at noon, not even a contest. That said my MK IV is going on the market soon, I like it alot but it aint no marshall.

 

['63-Strat]

You guys are hilarious sometimes No clip, just a pic of JVMs and alchemists and everyone sitting around saying how they suck. I would not be surprised if Schon is able to get great tones out of them at all. They wouldn't be my first choice, I've been happy with my rig for a long time, but I'm sure I could make it work. And George, your hate of V30s/bogners/etc. is well known, but come on man there has been tons of great music/records made with that gear! You have to like some of those records?