Now this is about politics and Canada

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Thumbpicker said:
I'd honestly fight against the US if Canada asked me to come. I'm that irritated by it. I hope it draws in Australia, NZ and the UK.
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Lookout guys, Nosepicker is going to answer the call to arms. He's on his way now! :hys:
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Canada's reaction is like when your younger brother would rather destroy all their toys in a tantrum instead of sharing the one hot-wheel car with you.

Guy in the video really hit it when he said there's been decade long lopsided trade deals in Canada's favor and we've protected and treated them like a brother. All the US has asked for is help with border security on their side and more equal trade deals. But some people (you know who you are) want to view that as the US being a bully.
 
DEAR CANADA NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE ASSHOLES. JUST "REPUBLICANS".
HE'S FUCKING US NORMAL FOLKS TOO.
 
Thumbpicker said:
Go have a cry. The USA started this bullshit fight and then cries when people don't like being attacked, hate you for it and hit back.

Why does Canada have to make a deal the that POS. Why play his game. Set your own terms of engagement and hit back hard against the bastard.

I haven't been around because I hate the current insularity. Attacking us and Canada - fuck the lot of you. Stufing the stock market up with his drivel.

Stuff pandering and kowtowing to the turds of the earth. Kick them out of Pine Gap and and send the US ambassador home.
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Come on in Harve…the waters warm….
 
Thumbpicker said:
Well actually you are wrong. I don't mind his domestic policies - I'm conservative - it's his foreign policies and turning your friends into enemies I hate. How dare you attack the friends that have stood by you for over a century. We don't even impose tariffs on the US and the US has a trade surplus with us - yet you are even attacking us. Meanwhile my superannuation balance is taking a hit from his volatile and unpredictable foreign policies.

So you've brought this on yourselves. Not TDS as such at all because I'm not a lefty.
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Friends or leeches? There’s a difference….
 
shar-vell Dan said:
DEAR CANADA NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE ASSHOLES. JUST "REPUBLICANS".
HE'S FUCKING US NORMAL FOLKS TOO.
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Dear Dan…let it go you sexy man beast…lol…. Vance will be in charge in another three years and eight months…. And fuck Canada…lol…even though they are all very nice people and I love shoresy…. You little pussy….you little bitch…. Those last two were letterkenny jokes….
 
Al Chapo said:
https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/united-states-mexico-canada-agreement

Who negotiated that "lopsided" deal, again? I like how everyone is looking clear past the fact your current idiot in command is exactly the guy who made the deal that apparently sucks for you.
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I like how you're skipping over most of the story and going straight to orange man bad.

The trade agreements that were negotiated decades ago (NAFTA) were lopsided to the benefit of Canada. Trump renegotiated trade deals in 2020 (USMCA) in good faith to be more reciprocal and fair for all parties.

The problem is the US held up their end of the bargain, but Canada decided to not do their part. That's pretty evident with over 70% of Canada's exports coming to the US and only importing about 20% from the US; meaning the US is buying a lot from Canada, but Canada isn't buying much form the US. If Canada was holding up their end, those percentages would be much closer.

The other part of the problem is border security. The US has been handling our end of the deal stopping as much illegal goods/activities from entering Canada as possible. But Canada has mostly turned a blind eye on what's been crossing the border into the US.

For an amusing analogy to this. Let's say you and I agree to watch each other's backs and stop each other form getting hit. Someone goes to hit me and you step in and block the punch. Then someone goes to hit you, but I just stand there and let you get smacked in the head. They I say hey dude you just got punched, you might want to duck next time.

You want to tout that Trump is an idiot who negotiated another lopsided deal, but that clearly isn't the case. We had a fair and balanced agreement that Trump negotiated in good faith. His only mistake was expecting that Canada would hold up their end of the bargain.
 
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GreatRedDragon said:
I'm Canadian. The prevailing towards Americans my entire life has been "they're arrogant fat fuckin annoying retards," but with a measure of tongue-in-cheek good humor about it.

In the last two months, pretty much everyone I know is saying "fuck that country and everyone in it," with no wink or smile. Pure hatred. They hate Trump and his supporters, and they hate the Democrats for being pathetic sacks of shit who allowed it to happen, and they want to see the complete collapse of the United States.

I'm ambivalent, I won't begrudge a country for acting in their own interests, I wish mine would.
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I only hope that when Russia invades the US via Canada, we can partner up again.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
I like how you're skipping over most of the story and going straight to orange man bad.

The trade agreements that were negotiated decades ago (NAFTA) were lopsided to the benefit of Canada. Trump renegotiated trade deals in 2020 (USMCA) in good faith to be more reciprocal and fair for all parties.

The problem is the US held up their end of the bargain, but Canada decided to not do their part. That's pretty evident with over 70% of Canada's exports coming to the US and only importing about 20% from the US; meaning the US is buying a lot from Canada, but Canada isn't buying much form the US. If Canada was holding up their end, those percentages would be much closer.

The other part of the problem is border security. The US has been handling out end of the deal stopping as much illegal goods/activities from entering Canada. But Canada has mostly turned a blind eye on what's been crossing the border into the US.

For an amusing analogy to this. Let's say you and I agree to watch each other's backs and stop each other form getting hit. Someone goes to hit me and you step in and block the punch. Then someone goes to hit you, but I just stand there and let you get smacked in the head. They I say hey dude you just got punched, you might want to duck next time.

You want to tout that Trump is an idiot who negotiated another lopsided deal, but that clearly isn't the case. We had a fair and balanced agreement that Trump negotiated in good faith. His only mistake was expecting that Canada would hold up their end of the bargain.
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You understand that countries have to buy stuff they don't have, right?

This is why there is a trade imbalance....because Canada has lots of stuff the US needs, doesn't have, or cannot produce enough of. Simple.

It is not a case of US handing us aide, you are buying stuff you need.
 
67mike said:
You understand that countries have to buy stuff they don't have, right?

This is why there is a trade imbalance....because Canada has lots of stuff the US needs, doesn't have, or cannot produce enough of. Simple.

It is not a case of US handing us aide, you are buying stuff you need.
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You understand the US purchases so much from Canada because of the trade agreement even though we don't need to. The US can produce; or at minimum has the ability to start producing, much of what is being bought from Canada.
 
I wouldn't mind having a fulltime snow machine but my wife doesn't like the climate.
All kidding aside trade wars w/ our allies hurts everyone especially when dRump is breaking his own treaty from last time.
Imagine that gov.com breaking a treaty. Bury my heart @ wounded knee.
 
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67mike said:
You understand that countries have to buy stuff they don't have, right?

This is why there is a trade imbalance....because Canada has lots of stuff the US needs, doesn't have, or cannot produce enough of. Simple.

It is not a case of US handing us aide, you are buying stuff you need.
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Do you have a list of stuff Canada has that the US needs ?

You understand that one of the primary points of tariffs is to induce people to manufacture and buy and sell products made by its own citizens rather than outsourcing it to foreign countries right ?
 
Floyd Eye said:
Do you have a list of stuff Canada has that the US needs ?

You understand that one of the primary points of tariffs is to induce people to manufacture and buy and sell products made by its own citizens rather than outsourcing it to foreign countries right ?
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Don't forget the US and Canada are very similar geographically speaking. There's not much in natural resources that couldn't be found in both countries. So the US isn't reliant on Canada for that either.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
I like how you're skipping over most of the story and going straight to orange man bad.

The trade agreements that were negotiated decades ago (NAFTA) were lopsided to the benefit of Canada. Trump renegotiated trade deals in 2020 (USMCA) in good faith to be more reciprocal and fair for all parties.

The problem is the US held up their end of the bargain, but Canada decided to not do their part. That's pretty evident with over 70% of Canada's exports coming to the US and only importing about 20% from the US; meaning the US is buying a lot from Canada, but Canada isn't buying much form the US. If Canada was holding up their end, those percentages would be much closer.

The other part of the problem is border security. The US has been handling out end of the deal stopping as much illegal goods/activities from entering Canada. But Canada has mostly turned a blind eye on what's been crossing the border into the US.

For an amusing analogy to this. Let's say you and I agree to watch each other's backs and stop each other form getting hit. Someone goes to hit me and you step in and block the punch. Then someone goes to hit you, but I just stand there and let you get smacked in the head. They I say hey dude you just got punched, you might want to duck next time.

You want to tout that Trump is an idiot who negotiated another lopsided deal, but that clearly isn't the case. We had a fair and balanced agreement that Trump negotiated in good faith. His only mistake was expecting that Canada would hold up their end of the bargain.
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MadAsAHatter said:
I like how you're skipping over most of the story and going straight to orange man bad.

The trade agreements that were negotiated decades ago (NAFTA) were lopsided to the benefit of Canada. Trump renegotiated trade deals in 2020 (USMCA) in good faith to be more reciprocal and fair for all parties.

The problem is the US held up their end of the bargain, but Canada decided to not do their part. That's pretty evident with over 70% of Canada's exports coming to the US and only importing about 20% from the US; meaning the US is buying a lot from Canada, but Canada isn't buying much form the US. If Canada was holding up their end, those percentages would be much closer.

The other part of the problem is border security. The US has been handling out end of the deal stopping as much illegal goods/activities from entering Canada. But Canada has mostly turned a blind eye on what's been crossing the border into the US.

For an amusing analogy to this. Let's say you and I agree to watch each other's backs and stop each other form getting hit. Someone goes to hit me and you step in and block the punch. Then someone goes to hit you, but I just stand there and let you get smacked in the head. They I say hey dude you just got punched, you might want to duck next time.

You want to tout that Trump is an idiot who negotiated another lopsided deal, but that clearly isn't the case. We had a fair and balanced agreement that Trump negotiated in good faith. His only mistake was expecting that Canada would hold up their end of the bargain.
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You're a bright enough guy to understand how trade deficits work, don't be purposely obtuse. Nobody imports products to help a bro out, you import what you cannot locally procure. You export your excess. Apparently you rely on us more than we rely on you for trade, and on the other end of that, clearly we need you more than you need us fiscally as a result. You guys love capitalism, figure it out.

I don't think you'll find many of us saying we have the border down to a science. Anybody crossing from Canada in a legal means will be dealing with your enforcement, not ours. The same applies on the other side. Should we be doing more to prevent illegal crossing? Yes. As should the US. Want to wager a guess where most drugs and restricted weapons enter Canada?

There was no discussion before the 25% tariffs talk popped up, fyi. It's hard to predict a wildly unpredictable person. This is nothing more than an attempt to be a hardline businessman. It was fentanyl, then it was immigrants, then it was made up deficit numbers, then it was dairy tariffs. Maybe we can reach a new agreement for Trump to Welch on, who knows. I think most Canadians are pretty happy to start looking elsewhere for solutions though.
 
A smart nation sits on its own resources and imports abroad cuz if you use up your own resources you are at the mercy
of imports forever.
And you certainly DO NOT TAX YOUR ALLIES & OWN PEOPLE.
Tairffs are TAXES. Who's the TAX & SPEND ASSHOLES NOW ?
 
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