OT: overrated guitarists thread

[Vrad]

This isn't my entire list, but it's about half of it:

1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Good call on #8 Bob...
Ry Cooter is no where near the talent his brother Sloshy Cooter is. Not even close.

 

[j666]

I will probably get some shit for this, but I think Dimebag is really over rated. I don't feel that he was "over rated" when he was alive per say, but since his death his legend/legacy has grown exponentially beyond his musical achievements.

gee...this statement includes randy, jimi, srv and even dead drummers and bass players as well...and dead painters, sculptors...etc.

 

[griff10672]

wow !! I must be

I think Joe Perry is one of the most UNDER RATED ...


and I can't believe # 43 on Mr. Savage's list

how can you slag Eddie man ...


so was that this years top 100 ??

 

[RaceU4her]

i just dont get how people can think dimebag is overrated. i mean i can see not liking his tone or not liking pantera, but to say hes not a great guitar player i think you gotta be a little crazy.

 

[theNoseBleedKid]

We never said he wasn't a great guitar player. But people take it extremes where I've seen it claimed he's more influential than Hendrix or the best guitarist ever. Say what you will about Hendrix but claiming he was less influential than DIMEBAG?? I mean really!

Listen to a Pantera album it's ok, nothing ground breaking or outrageous, certianly nothing new in the guitar.

 

[Phishphood]

Jimmy Page

Ritchie Blackmore

 

[guitar_god123456]

well he did help keep metal alive

Please explain.

this is just what i believe, but he had alot of influence on the newer bands today, and pantera came out at a time when grunge was dominating, so pantera gave metalheads some real metal to listen to.

 

[guitarslinger]

* puts on flame proof suit *

Eric Clapton
Jimmy Page
Joe Perry
Ace Freeley
Paul Stanely
C.C. DeVille
Keith Richards
Ron Wood
George Harrison
Keifer Sutherland

agree with all of those except:

CC Deville isn't rated at all. he is dismissed as a cheeseman by all, including himself. But if the Page fanboys want to talk "writing", I think CC is as good as Jimmy Page. The unskinny bop riff is better than anything page wrote.

also, Kiefer Sutherland is an actor. He's a good actor. Plus, he gets wasted and takes his pants off at the bar. That makes him an awesome guitarist.

 

[cibyl]

I really respect Jimi Hendrix for all he did and all...but I dont think his actual talent shows as much as it used to next to guys like Guthrie Govan, Bumblefoot, Mattias Eklundh and such. Same with EVH...theyre both amazing in the innovative perspective but people thing theyre just so amazing when I dont really agree...

I also do not think Tom Morello, John Fruscianti, and Steve Vai are as good as they are made out to be.

To me, comparing Hendrix and Guthrie Govan is absurd. Hendrix was about writing songs w/lyrics and cool, stylized, blues-based guitar playing mixed in -- it's was about the song as a whole. I don't think he had any intension of trying to be a "guitar virtuoso", but at the time he did things no one else had done before. He was more about emotion and feel than technical ability. Guthrie Govan is plain and simple a virtuoso type player. Any music he writes is just a platform to show off his amazing chops -- the polar opposite of Hendrix. So really, it all depends on what you like -- I'll take Hendrix any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[cibyl]

This isn't my entire list, but it's about half of it:

1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Aaah,...the infamous Rolling Stone Top 100 Guitarists of all time list. That was pretty funny.

 

[dylannelson]

i just dont get how people can think dimebag is overrated. i mean i can see not liking his tone or not liking pantera, but to say hes not a great guitar player i think you gotta be a little crazy.

I cant believe you say that Clapton is over rated. Musicanship kills chops anytime. For the record I love Dimebag

 

[guitarslinger]

i just dont get how people can think dimebag is overrated. i mean i can see not liking his tone or not liking pantera, but to say hes not a great guitar player i think you gotta be a little crazy.

I cant believe you say that Clapton is over rated. Musicanship kills chops anytime. For the record I love Dimebag

true, but there are a hundred guys with better musicianship than clapton. I also love Dimebag.

 

[theNoseBleedKid]

well he did help keep metal alive

Please explain.

this is just what i believe, but he had alot of influence on the newer bands today, and pantera came out at a time when grunge was dominating, so pantera gave metalheads some real metal to listen to.

"Metalheads" already had better metal to listen to. Pantera simply introduced memorable riffs into the mainstream American music scene.

Some of the greatest Black metal and Death metal records were made in the early and mid 90's - they are better than Pantera ever will be - this is fact. Any decent metal band will know this - those citing Pantera as an influence are ALWAYS subpar to those citing Bathory. IMO and IME.

Dimebag's fine - hardly a god or a great guitarist - the fanboys preaching his superhuman "skills" are ridiculous.

 

[fearhk213]

I must say I'm a bit shocked at a few of the names that have popped up. Oh well, to each his own I guess .