Proof the Earth is round

VonBonfire said:
Notice he makes plants before he makes the sun, an apparent contradiction but the light of Christ illumines all of creation.
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Unless one believes in the unscriptural day-age theory, the plants only had to survive a day or two until they received "real" light.

311splawndude said:
My belief is that the Grand Canyon is 5+ million years old and carved by a river.
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The huge inland sea that would've been left-behind after the flood eventually sprung a leak and carved that channel through the mountains, dumping a ridiculous amount of silt into the Gulf of Mexico. It would've happened quickly and it's the only rational explanation.

No river can flow uphill so that theory's a non-starter.
All rivers cave in at their banks and gain width as opposed to somehow being able to carve ever-deeper.
All such phenomena I'm aware of were obviously quick-carves.
The layers you see in the canyon are simple stratification of mud particles you can approximate every time you mix soil and water, shake it up and let it settle.

Just my perspective brother. :dunno:

311splawndude said:
I also believe the Appalachia Mts are 5 billion years old - roughly, and were at one time molten like magma.
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Are they made of granite?

I can't speak for other rocks, but granite's a great fly in the ointment of the earth's crust supposedly once being molten rock. If you melt it and let it cool down it changes completely into something that looks like black, shiny glass.

A profound-and-conveniently-ignored fact.
 
Monkey Man said:
Unless one believes in the unscriptural day-age theory, the plants only had to survive a day or two until they received "real" light.
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Except time is determined by the sun and moon. So if there is no sun, what's a "day" mean. The only answer can be an indeterminate period of time known by God.
 
Floyd Eye said:
How we identify time is determined by how fast the earth spins. Time itself is a concept and not subject to physical forces.
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Not entirely true. Time can be affected by gravitational forces or speed and be based on an observers position relative to the force. One example would be time dilation as you approach the speed of light. Time passes differently for the object in motion vs a stationary observer.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Not entirely true. Time can be affected by gravitational forces or speed and be based on an observers position relative to the force. One example would be time dilation as you approach the speed of light. Time passes differently for the object in motion vs a stationary observer.
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Is this Einstein's contribution?
 
Floyd Eye said:
I guess I don’t understand how the actual passage of time can be altered, period.
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It's not so much that time is altered. It's more complex than this, but basically the perception of the passage of time is different based on your frame of reference.

For someone who is traveling near the speed of light time passes slower for them than someone who is not moving.
For gravity, the closer you are to the center of mass of an object the the slower time moves for you. We're talking fractions of nanoseconds here, but technically someone who lives at sea level would be younger than someone who lives in the mountains.

This is actually a nifty real world thing that demonstrates both aspects of time dilation due to gravity and speed. Astronaut Scott Kelly is now slightly older than his twin because of his time spent in space.

https://www.sciencealert.com/in-spa...owly-than-his-brother-on-earth-and-here-s-why
 
MadAsAHatter said:
It's not so much that time is altered. It's more complex than this, but basically the perception of the passage of time is different based on your frame of reference.

For someone who is traveling near the speed of light time passes slower for them than someone who is not moving.
For gravity, the closer you are to the center of mass of an object the the slower time moves for you. We're talking fractions of nanoseconds here, but technically someone who lives at sea level would be younger than someone who lives in the mountains.

This is actually a nifty real world thing that demonstrates both aspects of time dilation due to gravity and speed. Astronaut Scott Kelly is now slightly older than his twin because of his time spent in space.

https://www.sciencealert.com/in-spa...owly-than-his-brother-on-earth-and-here-s-why
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Can we preface this by saying, "According to Einstein's special relativity..."


Thank you.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
It's not so much that time is altered. It's more complex than this, but basically the perception of the passage of time is different based on your frame of reference.

For someone who is traveling near the speed of light time passes slower for them than someone who is not moving.
For gravity, the closer you are to the center of mass of an object the the slower time moves for you. We're talking fractions of nanoseconds here, but technically someone who lives at sea level would be younger than someone who lives in the mountains.

This is actually a nifty real world thing that demonstrates both aspects of time dilation due to gravity and speed. Astronaut Scott Kelly is now slightly older than his twin because of his time spent in space.

https://www.sciencealert.com/in-spa...owly-than-his-brother-on-earth-and-here-s-why
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So you’re saying that your body would physically age slower ? Your perception of the passage of time based on a previous frame of reference may be a mental phenomenon but I don’t see how it can be an actual physical possibility. I get that it’s theoretical but Dan said it can be proven with satellites and GPS. What’s that about ?
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Why? can you not have a conversation without putting qualifiers on or questioning everything when you don't understand how something works?
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Because like your vaunted "globe" and much else in modern science, it is only theoretical, indemonstrable in every day life. You pronounce it like it's the Gospel truth.
 
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