Floyd Eye
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God can.You couldn't see all the kingdoms of the world from an exceedingly high mountain unless it wasn't a sphere.
God can.You couldn't see all the kingdoms of the world from an exceedingly high mountain unless it wasn't a sphere.
Can't see a curve at any altitude we non government/government sponsored organizations can attain is indeed a problem. What flawed logic are you referring to?All you've done is say "I can't see the curve" or called things fake in a attempt to justify your position. In the same manner you haven't presented anything but flawed logic to back up your claim of flat earth.
Mortals are said to as well.God can.
I said it was understood and circumference had been calculated, not "established" in 3rd century BC. There's a difference.I never said I was going to give you a history lesson. I only stated that the shape of the earth wasn't "established" in the 300's like you said.
I think you just like to argue.I'm not sure what "mounds" of evidence you're referring to, but if it's as strong as your Bible evidence and fake photos I'm not holding my breath. What is your best evidence that the earth is a rotating sphere?
Source?by 300 AD it had become widely accepted the earth was a sphere.
It seems to me that you ball eathers are the ones that are all worked up about someone challenging your "reality"... As von has said many times nothing in our day to day lives changes if you believe either view.You guys run along and keep living in your altered reality.
What shape of a world could a mortal see all ends of without the aid of an omnipotent being ? Even if it was flat as a pancake. Or did biblical humans have superhuman eyesight or amazingly advanced optical instruments ? Your whole argument is an exercise in elasticity, but trotting out those bible verses is bad even for you. Without the argument that you cannot translate the bible literally there would be exactly zero christians in existence. You don't get to translate it literally here and argue it's up for interpretation there dude.Mortals are said to as well.
That's bullshit. It doesn't change anyone else's life either. I don't think anyone's really worked up about it. We all just want to believe that you are a logical person and are attempting to make you admit it. I totally believe you know and believe the earth is a sphere.It seems to me that you ball eathers are the ones that are all worked up about someone challenging your "reality"... As von has said many times nothing in our day to day lives changes if you believe either view.
I confess some percentage of trolling. Not a large one though.I totally believe you know and believe the earth is a sphere
Everything presented in this thread. Also all actual scientific works & books on the subject, there are numerous so have your pick of those.I'm not sure what "mounds" of evidence you're referring to, but if it's as strong as your Bible evidence and fake photos I'm not holding my breath. What is your best evidence that the earth is a rotating sphere?
This flawed logic. I can't see it; therefore, it doesn't exist.Can't see a curve at any altitude we non government/government sponsored organizations can attain is indeed a problem. What flawed logic are you referring to?
Any book on the history of science that contains chapters on this subject.Source?
Flat earth contributes to the ignorance and stupidity of the public. Which is why we have retard extremists who can't define what a woman is, think men can menstruate & get pregnant, put tampons in the men's bathroom, hold trans story time for young children, and want to vote for the most unqualified presidential candidate to date. So yeah, I'd say that impacts our day to day lives.It seems to me that you ball eathers are the ones that are all worked up about someone challenging your "reality"... As von has said many times nothing in our day to day lives changes if you believe either view.
You make a good point in that it no mountain is high enough to see the whole earth even if it is flat, and one's eyesight alone would not be sufficient either. But I think the bigger takeaway is that there is no conception at all in the bible that the earth is a rotating sphere, something Jesus would presumably know. The gospel writers, paul and so on are consistent with the OT view of the earth. And by the way, Jesus certainly would have thought it was 'flat' as that's what the ancient hebrews thought. But as for it being immovable, 'foundations' being laid and so on?What shape of a world could a mortal see all ends of without the aid of an omnipotent being ? Even if it was flat as a pancake.
C'mon, all I asked was for your best evidence that the earth is a rotating sphere, and a single source that demonstrates it was "widely accepted" by 300 AD that the earth is a sphere.Everything presented in this thread. Also all actual scientific works & books on the subject, there are numerous so have your pick of those.
Any book on the history of science that contains chapters on this subject.
That's not really my position though.This flawed logic. I can't see it; therefore, it doesn't exist.
Well, you're the one calling the Chicago skyline a mirage.It's obvious there's nothing that would convince either of you that the earth is a globe/sphere. At this point I don't think you'd believe you own eyes if we all chipped in to send you up to space to see for yourself. You'd likely have some asinine excuse like the window was dirty and only made it look like the earth was round.
Flat Earthers may be wrong, but I would much prefer to live in a society where people trusted their own senses and cognition instead of being programmed to believe absurdities.Flat earth contributes to the ignorance and stupidity of the public.
Foundation is a term used more often than not in a non physical way. It's used as an analogy. Under what type/shape of the earth do you think a physical foundation could be possible ?You make a good point in that it no mountain is high enough to see the whole earth even if it is flat, and one's eyesight alone would not be sufficient either. But I think the bigger takeaway is that there is no conception at all in the bible that the earth is a rotating sphere, something Jesus would presumably know. The gospel writers, paul and so on are consistent with the OT view of the earth. And by the way, Jesus certainly would have thought it was 'flat' as that's what the ancient hebrews thought. But as for it being immovable, 'foundations' being laid and so on?
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Well, none of us can know for sure. I am confident Jesus would have laughed at the notion of a spinning ball earth.On the one hand you say " Jesus would presumably know" and on the other you say " Jesus would have thought the earth was flat, as that was the prevailing theory at the time". Which is it ?
The dome covering the Earth was considered to be sitting on pillars, which were thought to be the “foundations of the earth."Foundation is a term used more often than not in a non physical way. It's used as an analogy. Under what type/shape of the earth do you think a physical foundation could be possible ?
Lots of things are part of flat earth theory it doesn't mean I have drawn a final conclusion that we live on a flat earth. I just think it's as credible as someone claiming we are on a spinning ball. To believe that you have to deny pretty much all your senses and put your faith into what other people say.That includes all the times you called pictures of the earth fake, said the horizon looks flat/don't see a curve, water is level, the earth is covered by a dome (firmament), referenced a circle which implies flat, refuted a mirage, etc. These are all part of flat earth theory.