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The early christians were accused of being cannibals by pagans because they truly beleived they were eating the body and the blood. So with your version of christianity you have basically denied scripture, which says you must eat of it or there is no life in you, and you have joined the pagans in making a mockery of holy communion, calling it hocus pocus and calling us cannibals. You're not actually a christian tbh.
It's attitudes like these that 100% drove me away from organized religions.
Every single one of them have the same attitude. That's great you believe, but you have a different interpretation of the minute details so you're making a mockery of everything I believe. My religion is the only true one and everyone else is wrong; have fun burning in hell. Sign me up for that level of closed-mindedness... :rolleyes:
 
The early christians were accused of being cannibals by pagans because they truly beleived they were eating the body and the blood. So with your version of christianity you have basically denied scripture, which says you must eat of it or there is no life in you, and you have joined the pagans in making a mockery of holy communion, calling it hocus pocus and calling us cannibals. You're not actually a christian tbh.
It's a spiritual act not a literal act. This is where you constantly go wrong and why you believe absurd things like the flat Earth. Also you conveniently forget the judge not lest you be judged verse. Who are you to tell me I'm not saved? You'd better pray for forgiveness for that one. I haven't said you aren't saved you cretin.
 
It's attitudes like these that 100% drove me away from organized religions.
Every single one of them have the same attitude. That's great you believe, but you have a different interpretation of the minute details so you're making a mockery of everything I believe. My religion is the only true one and everyone else is wrong; have fun burning in hell. Sing me up for that level of closed-mindedness... :rolleyes:
If you haven't found the truth then why waste a good sunday sitting in church? If people drove you away from pursuit of the truth then you will probably never find it for that reason. You let people get in your way. I understand where you are coming because that's where I was coming from for about 20 years post protestantism. What drove you from the church is the confusion in western christianity where it's all self interpreted. Also, I never said you were going to hell for not being orthodox. That's not an orthodox belief. Even the unbelievers are not necessarily going to hell so at least get the theology clear before you go on the attack there thumbpicker 2.0.
 
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7Ask and keep on asking and it will be given to you; seek and keep on seeking and you will find; knock and keep on knocking and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who keeps on asking receives, and he who keeps on seeking finds, and to him who keeps on knocking, it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will [instead] give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will [instead] give him a snake? 11 If you then, evil (sinful by nature) as you are, know how to give good and advantageous gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven [perfect as He is] give what is good and advantageous to those who keep on asking Him.
 
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It's a spiritual act not a literal act. This is where you constantly go wrong and why you believe absurd things like the flat Earth. Also you conveniently forget the judge not lest you be judged verse. Who are you to tell me I'm not saved? You'd better pray for forgiveness for that one. I haven't said you aren't saved you cretin.
"Saved" is past tense. It's an ongoing work, not some one-and-done prayer at a random sunday morning or bible camp. I said your church isn't really christian because you deny the ltiurgy and holy communion that existed for 1500 years before Martin Luther came along.
 
"Saved" is past tense. It's an ongoing work, not some one-and-done prayer at a random sunday morning or bible camp. I said your church isn't really christian because you deny the ltiurgy and holy communion that existed for 1500 years before Martin Luther came along.
Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about divine liturgy. We do not deny communion we interpret it differently. We do not think we have to worship like Jews. We were freed from the "law". Jesus railed against Pharisees for thinking following the law and being ritualistic was what it's all about. The early church made a lot of mistakes. Paul constantly had to correct them. He didn't live forever. The church went off the rails - especially the Catholic Church.
 
Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about divine liturgy. We do not deny communion we interpret it differently. We do not think we have to worship like Jews. We were freed from the "law".
Thanks for repeating orthodoxy back to me. The divine liturgy and holy communion was central to every church service for nearly 2000 years before the people who founded your church were even born. Everything else you go on the attack with is the same tired arguments. There is no legalism within orthodoxy. That you make those comparisons shows that you just don't know what you're talking about.
 
Thanks for repeating orthodoxy back to me. The divine liturgy and holy communion was central to every church service for nearly 2000 years before the people who founded your church were even born. Everything else you go on the attack with is the same tired arguments. There is no legalism within orthodoxy. That you make those comparisons shows that you just don't know what you're talking about.
But you keep carrying on about how you have to follow a prescribed and traditional method of worship like the divine liturgy. That's legalism.
 
But you keep carrying on about how you have to follow a prescribed method of worship like the divine liturgy. That's legalism.
No, it's the tradition of the early church passed down from the people who wrote the bible to us. Unbelievably, you attack the very core of the faith and think you are right in doing the devil's work.
 
No, it's the tradition of the early church passed down from the people who wrote the bible to us. Unbelievably, you attack the very core of the faith and think you are right in doing the devil's work.
Church traditions are not the core of the faith at all. The Bible and the words of Jesus are the core of the faith. The Catholic church did things for thousands of years too and before I was born and they were dead wrong and changed the religion into something it was not meant to be.

I don't rely on human traditions. Humans are flawed. Follow the word of God it's the benchmark - not the Church - it (the Church) can deviate from the Bible. You need to reconcile everything the Church does back to the Bible. Not the other way around.
 
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
 
Church traditions are not the core of the faith at all. The Bible and the words of Jesus are the core of the faith. The Catholic church did things for thousands of years too and before I was born and they were dead wrong and changed the religion into something it was not meant to be.

I don't rely on human traditions. Humans are flawed. Follow the word of God it's the benchmark - not the church - it deviates from Bible.
You can play this game all you want. For 1000 years the church was in unity. Then the Catholics broke, then the Lutherans.....you reformers are way down the line but you are still heretics just like they are, theologically speaking. The core of the earliest church was the service centered around holy communion.
 
You can play this game all you want. For 1000 years the church was in unity. Then the Catholics broke, then the Lutherans.....you reformers are way down the line but you are still heretics just like they are, theologically speaking. The core of the earliest church was the service centered around holy communion.
Holy Communion is still important.
 
If you haven't found the truth then why waste a good sunday sitting in church? If people drove you away from pursuit of the truth then you will probably never find it for that reason. You let people get in your way. I understand where you are coming because that's where I was coming from for about 20 years post protestantism. What drove you from the church is the confusion in western christianity where it's all self interpreted. Also, I never said you were going to hell for not being orthodox. That's not an orthodox belief. Even the unbelievers are not necessarily going to hell so at least get the theology clear before you go on the attack there thumbpicker 2.0.
May not have been clear, but I wasn't talking specifically you and/or your religion. I was commenting about organized religion in general and used the euphemism of "burn in hell" to exaggerate a point.

Many years ago I contemplated the subject of spirituality for a long while and formed my own set of beliefs. I didn't take this subject lightly either. I approached several faith leaders to discuss things. I don't talk about what I believe because any time I have I've been judged by others (of faith) to be wrong according to their teachings. Like I said, I attempted to discuss things with them when forming my beliefs. All they wanted to do is "discuss" why their religion was the right one, why I was wrong, and pressuring me to blindly follow their belief system with no questions asked.

I also didn't like that most western leaders were extremely dismissive of eastern religions. It didn't matter if a bulk of the teaching had the same message. Eastern religion didn't believe in the same god so they were wrong. I actually found when discussing religion with a leader of eastern faith they more accepting of western religions. They at least had the attitude of the message is most important.

Like I said I don't like discussing my beliefs because most tend to judge me on it. I'll keep it simple and say it's a mix of several different belief systems with some of my own thoughts thrown in. I don't judge any individual person on what faith they are or what they believe. I do however look critically on organized religion as a whole because of my experiences.
 
Holy Communion is still important.
It's the entire point of attending church. If it isn't the focus of your church you are attending the wrong church. In protestant churches it's a sidebar. The focus it he preaching because minus the traditions the only other thing to do there is sip coffee and talk and listen to bro country level worship music.
 
May not have been clear, but I wasn't talking specifically you and/or your religion. I was commenting about organized religion in general and used the euphemism of "burn in hell" to exaggerate a point.

Many years ago I contemplated the subject of spirituality for a long while and formed my own set of beliefs. I didn't take this subject lightly either. I approached several faith leaders to discuss things. I don't talk about what I believe because any time I have I've been judged by others (of faith) to be wrong according to their teachings. Like I said, I attempted to discuss things with them when forming my beliefs. All they wanted to do is "discuss" why their religion was the right one, why I was wrong, and pressuring me to blindly follow their belief system with no questions asked.

I also didn't like that most western leaders were extremely dismissive of eastern religions. It didn't matter if a bulk of the teaching had the same message. Eastern religion didn't believe in the same god so they were wrong. I actually found when discussing religion with a leader of eastern faith they more accepting of western religions. They at least had the attitude of the message is most important.

Like I said I don't like discussing my beliefs because most tend to judge me on it. I'll keep it simple and say it's a mix of several different belief systems with some of my own thoughts thrown in. I don't judge any individual person on what faith they are or what they believe. I do however look critically on organized religion as a whole because of my experiences.
That's the beauty of orthodoxy. It is the earliest christianity. It is pre-denominational, meaning it existed before sects of christianity broke away and took various names. It is eastern and is completely foreign to the protestant mind.

My theology was all screwed up prior to finding orthodoxy because the protestant world is the spawn of satan and therefore full of confusion. I have no problem with someone judging my beliefs, go for it, you're fighting Christ's church so that isn't a winning battle. I might judge your beliefs, but I'm not judging not you for holding them. We all start from someplace and are seeking that peace that is found in the orthodox church. Yes, all orgs have their problems but we aren't going to church for social hour we are going to make confession and commune with Christ. It's about the inner life and that is something missing from western christianity.
 
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