PSA: "Who is the real Larry?" thread is live
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JackBootedThug
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Thread delivers....everything from nos tubes to grandpaw scat porn....those Germans sure are naughty.....lol...
harddriver
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Well it seems at least two people in this thread have actually purchased Larry amps directly from Larry and two got stiffed on follow up tube and a replacement back panel purchases from what I have read. Also Dan Travis owns a Larry amp so I would not say people on this board aren't Larry's customer base or not affluent enough to purchase his products. It's not a good look if that is how the paying customers are treated. I believe they are here because they feel wronged and/or swindled to make these issues known in a public way and it seems it is their only recourse at this point judging by the responses in this thread. I think alot of people including myself had the upmost respect for Larry's intelligent capable amp designs and knowledge but that does not excuse the customer service noted in this thread.
I am also sad to say that the Larry in this thread is not the Larry of which I had the fortunate experience of knowing back in 2005-2009 who always helped out the little guys trying to learn about amps. Either deal with the issues presented in an adult manor or stop posting insults instead of solutions and recompense. You may have plenty of backlogged customers and you may even be semi retired by now good for you.....we all look forward to that but the business model of taking people's money up front and then not delivering what you promised is not a good one.
I hope you will work things out and make things right with your CUSTOMERS here instead of insulting them and their intelligence like they don't know whether or not you provided a product to them after they paid you. All future customers will eventually read this since your amp is so exotic and boutique and may decide not to even take the chance that you will deliver an amp for $7,000.00 or $400.00 tubes or a replacement back panel.
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Clig Herdunkachuk
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The whole “sue for defamation” thing always cracks me up. Especially in a US court.
My wife is a former elected official. Claims of lies/defamation are a staple of that world. Got a “master class” in US defamation law during her 12 years of service.
First: truth is the ultimate defense against libel/slander. If the defendant can prove their claims to the satisfaction of the court there is nothing to worry about
Second: if truth cannot be established then the plantiff has to make a case that the defendant stated the untruth with full knowledge that the claim was not true.
Third: if the plantiff claiming harm is a public person, then they also must prove the defendant uttered the lie with malicious intent. Malice and intent are very difficult things to prove and generally provides a nearly impossible standard for public persons to overcome in court... unless the defendant is so wreckless as to publicly state their malicious intent, say as in a public post. On a public forum. In writing.
Then there is this defense: “I clearly did not mean what I said. It was hyperbole”.
My wife’s attorney told us: “Whenever a public person wins a libel/slander suit in the US there is usually a stupid defendant and/or defense attorney involved”.
My wife is a former elected official. Claims of lies/defamation are a staple of that world. Got a “master class” in US defamation law during her 12 years of service.
First: truth is the ultimate defense against libel/slander. If the defendant can prove their claims to the satisfaction of the court there is nothing to worry about
Second: if truth cannot be established then the plantiff has to make a case that the defendant stated the untruth with full knowledge that the claim was not true.
Third: if the plantiff claiming harm is a public person, then they also must prove the defendant uttered the lie with malicious intent. Malice and intent are very difficult things to prove and generally provides a nearly impossible standard for public persons to overcome in court... unless the defendant is so wreckless as to publicly state their malicious intent, say as in a public post. On a public forum. In writing.
Then there is this defense: “I clearly did not mean what I said. It was hyperbole”.
My wife’s attorney told us: “Whenever a public person wins a libel/slander suit in the US there is usually a stupid defendant and/or defense attorney involved”.
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So the letter of the law is the only thing that matters ??? For shits sake (see what I did there ?) someone died ! Larry can sell the amp he started for Steve to the next guy on his (shit) list and refund the widow and not lose a penny, what’s so difficult to grasp here ? You’d have to have shit for brains not to get it.
cetanu
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As I've already mentioned that's not how these things work in the EU and that guy seems to forget that Larry isn't from the US. Legally he could've been convicted multiple times if people would actually press charges against him (criminal law) and if that's not enough to get him into motion get a lawyer involved to get their stuff or money back (civil law). Normal people or those without bad itentions usually fold when they're about to get convicted but it's Helmut aka Larry we're talking about and that guy never changes and is still behaving and acting just like 5, 10 or 15 years ago.
FYI: https://www.ihk.de/hamburg/en/fairplay/business-law/limitation-actions-german-law-1159426
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Clig Herdunkachuk
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If Larry brings suit in the US as threatened, the legal jurisdiction would be under US law… that is why the rich and powerful are so picky about where their suits get filed: to get a judge or legal jurisdiction that they think will be beneficial to their claim.
The mods on here are awesome lol!
If so, he prolly won't get his deposit back.
DanTravis62
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Nice, look at your gear list - with a dozen different expensive amps
Where are your badass clips, badass who deserves a dozen amps?
thegame
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NOAD! New old amp day!
This thing sounds incredible. That is, since I’ve spent approximately $500 out of my own pocket on two separate visits to the amp doctor. More on this later, but a brief recap, pardon the pun :
1) amp died 10 days after receivership. An LCR cap had given up the ghost. $$$. Was promised a certain type of reciprocation from Larry, never happened of course.
2) On day ONE, immediately noticed a severe multi channel bleed through problem, rendering the amp useless for live playing if channel switching from clean to OD was required. Years later, Larry did help by sending a replacement relay board (sent with Disfigured’s Dino) at no cost to me. No cost for the board itself that is, as the fix required 4-5 hours to do and I was billed accordingly. $$$$$$$
This thing sounds incredible. That is, since I’ve spent approximately $500 out of my own pocket on two separate visits to the amp doctor. More on this later, but a brief recap, pardon the pun :
1) amp died 10 days after receivership. An LCR cap had given up the ghost. $$$. Was promised a certain type of reciprocation from Larry, never happened of course.
2) On day ONE, immediately noticed a severe multi channel bleed through problem, rendering the amp useless for live playing if channel switching from clean to OD was required. Years later, Larry did help by sending a replacement relay board (sent with Disfigured’s Dino) at no cost to me. No cost for the board itself that is, as the fix required 4-5 hours to do and I was billed accordingly. $$$$$$$
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Findthetone1
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I think it was the "Slash" edition..
headlessdeadguy
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? The first line of my post answered your question. I am a a solid thrash/ death metal rhythm guitarist. Nothing more. Do I deserve all of those amps? Not really.
Your Instagram posts sound a whole lot different than the ones you share here. Nothing special just like my clips would be.
DanTravis62
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Obviously my camera phone Instagram clips aren't going to sound like my miced actual recordings, do you have cognitive challenges?
I love how someone with 50 thousand dollars of 1-3k$ amps feels justified in judging someone with one 7k amp as undeserving
It's like youre too fucking stupid to count, it's amazing