PSA: "Who is the real Larry?" thread is live

Disfigured said:
This is actually really good advice and I appreciate it, and you are correct on all points. Thank you.

For the most part, I have done all of those things, I did buy other tubes and I haven’t thought about it much over the last couple years.
But every once in awhile we see some poor unsuspecting person talk about how they can’t wait to get their Larry amp, and we see Larry pop up here and pimp his work, so I thought it was time to share my experience.

And also a last ditch attempt for Larry to either prove there was some type of error or right a wrong, which hasn’t been done.
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Has anyone been shafted on receiving their amp? I thought it took so long because he had so many orders built up?
 
mooncobra said:
Has anyone been shafted on receiving their amp? I thought it took so long because he had so many orders built up?
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Good question.

This is a very touchy subject.

A few years ago we did receive a very pointed warning from someone to never do business with Larry, and we know the deal went bad in some way, but not enough details were divulged for me to be able to comment confidently either way
 
glpg80 said:
Except for that time he wanted to charge $1000 for a transformer replacement.

The dude had to sell the amp on the forum at a massive loss non functional.
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Doesn’t sound completely unfair given the price of one new. Just my opinions

Besides, that sounds like a quote was given beforehand.
 
Some good points have been brought up here, not that I've ever given a damn about Larry amps. I just think this whole thread would be better without the lengthy high-school flavored intro. I'm of the belief that not many heavy hitters with that kind of $$ are going to read through all that crap or take it as seriously as the points brought up by others 3 pages in.
 
glpg80 said:
Larry knows more about amplifier design than every builder here including myself combined. He figured out ground plane noise over 25 years ago before anyone else did. His theory was deep well before most of the books were wrote on it. I’ve got nothing but respect for the man and I don’t care about his age. If you want an amp from him either order one, buy used, or don’t. This thread seems like a psychotic attempt from some maniac to cut business from Larry and a pathetic attempt at that. Larry’s delivered his orders as stated but if his wait time is now 4 years instead of 1 year I could say I agree that’s a bit outlandish but how much of it is parts availability?

Larry has the talent and one thing many people haven’t mentioned or seen here is how much he has helped many other builders over the years with amplifier designs. He’s very good at what he does and also what he knows - you’re paying for that in his amp designs because his stuff isn’t a copy of anything - it’s his own designs.

These threads are not discussions about gear and are blights at a builder directly. If you don’t like him don’t buy from him. It’s that simple.
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NOT true at all… his designs are DIRECT RIP OFF of esteemed amp builder Michael fortin, this is a fact. Michael fortin is the true innovator of these style amps and this design. Just ask him. He will deny it.
 
Some years ago I realized I live like a 1.5h drive away from Larry. I could track him down, maybe talk to his wife about his age or fish in his letter box for additional information etc.
I can offer this service to my fellow RT members in exchange for... a Larry amp.
 
BesaMoogie said:
Some years ago I realized I live like a 1.5h drive away from Larry. I could track him down, maybe talk to his wife about his age or fish in his letter box for additional information etc.
I can offer this service to my fellow RT members in exchange for... a Larry amp.
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i'm about that far away from where Fortin started. i should have done some spy work to get to the bottom of those circuit stealing claims.
I'm 20 min from Bruce Egnator, but he hasn't done anything to wrong the community. ....EXCEPT OUTSOURCE HIS AMPS OVERSEAS!!11 GET HIIIM!!:ROFLMAO: :geek:
 
UltraGary said:
Some good points have been brought up here, not that I've ever given a damn about Larry amps. I just think this whole thread would be better without the lengthy high-school flavored intro. I'm of the belief that not many heavy hitters with that kind of $$ are going to read through all that crap or take it as seriously as the points brought up by others 3 pages in.
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We’re dealing with someone with the hair trigger emotional variability of a high school teenage girl, so the material was presented as such. And in keeping with the typical style of his own postings, metaphor rich. I stand firm on exposing credibility issues though. That is vitally important. How couldn’t it be? I agree on your last point, things will take on a much more somber tone going forward…
 
glpg80 said:
Except for that time he wanted to charge $1000 for a transformer replacement.

The dude had to sell the amp on the forum at a massive loss non functional.
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This was the result of the owner using the amp with a Boss Waza TAE. The repairs should fall on Boss....but good luck with that. His was one of a handful of Waza TAE causing OT failures specific to Wizard.
Yes, 1K is ridiculous for an OT repair. But that's the price when you can't get a proprietary transformer from the Mfr itself.
 
Racerxrated said:
This was the result of the owner using the amp with a Boss Waza TAE. The repairs should fall on Boss....but good luck with that. His was one of a handful of Waza TAE causing OT failures specific to Wizard.
Yes, 1K is ridiculous for an OT repair. But that's the price when you can't get a proprietary transformer from the Mfr itself.
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I’d sent the original to Mercury magnetics to rebuild for $600 before I’m required to ship the whole amp at my own dime and then pay an additional $1000. $600 is better than $1500. Ricks a douche for the move and everyone knows it.
 
glpg80 said:
I’d sent the original to Mercury magnetics to rebuild for $600 before I’m required to ship the whole amp at my own dime and then pay an additional $1000. $600 is better than $1500. Ricks a douche for the move and everyone knows it.
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His prices are more than what some want to pay. But if you pay them, you get the product...
 
glpg80 said:
I’d sent the original to Mercury magnetics to rebuild for $600 before I’m required to ship the whole amp at my own dime and then pay an additional $1000. $600 is better than $1500. Ricks a douche for the move and everyone knows it.
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Again, this all sound like it was an option given to the owner upfront. His choice to move forward or not. Personally, I’d rather pay the fee and have the manufacturer fix my $5000+ amp.

Whether a manufacturer is overcharging for products or service is a separate discussion and opinion based.
 
Bro KV said:
Again, this all sound like it was an option give. To the owner upfront. His choice to move forward or not. Personally, I’d rather pay the fee and have the manufacturer fix my $5000+ amp.
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It’s not a $5000 amplifier though that’s the point. It’s a PTP vanilla 4 stage gain design with diode clipping. He charges that much because he can. A fool and their money is the motto he goes by.
 
glpg80 said:
It’s not a $5000 amplifier though that’s the point. It’s a PTP vanilla 4 stage gain design with diode clipping. He charges that much because he can. A fool and their money is the motto he goes by.
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Again, different discussion as to whether a manufacturer charges too much. You still have a choice to pay or not. This thread is about a buyer who said he was ripped off, paid for goods that were not received.
 
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