Reverb bans Pussy Melter pedal and I got attacked by SJWs

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they have a delay coming out soon called the "poontang boomerang" I am buying that too to compliment the melter pedal I already have.

Nothing like taking an anti-establishment stance especially when the SJWs have a nefarious control purpose behind it.
 
EXPcustom":23smzpha said:
This is why I will never sell my offensive guitars. :thumbsup:

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man, you have two deaths head guitars?
that is crazy.
 
Jesus christ where to start, with the dudes that don't know what socialism is or what? Look, people have always been this way, but with this new tangled. Thing called the internet, we just know it now. Reverb can do whatever the hell they want, don't use the site if you don't like it. Did we really have 3 pages of this? Also, stop saying "SJW". The pedal was meant for one purpose, the same purpose the band exists for. This is a non-issue. Some people get furious at SP, those people need to calm down, some people get furious about not being able to list a pedal for exorbitant prices to make a bunch of money. Those people need to calm down. Neither is better than the other.
 
I love it when people use the excuse that it is their company and they can do what ever they want.

That’s very convenient after you basically monopolize something and then start making up all kinds of rules. Leaving no viable alternative.

In the internet age this is called a technocracy.
 
Bueller":3d8dqybo said:
I love it when people use the excuse that it is their company and they can do what ever they want.

That’s very convenient after you basically monopolize something and then start making up all kinds of rules. Leaving no viable alternative.

In the internet age this is called a technocracy.

Reverb hasn't monopolized anything. You can use eBay, Craigslist, the newspaper, Let Go, gear forums (like this one), any number of other resources, or start your own web-based musical gear for-sale company.

Yes, here in the USA, a private company can play judge, jury, and dictator regarding their own practices. If you don't like it, don't use their service. Use a different one. Or open your own company. That's not an excuse. That's a fact of life in a capitalistic economy with any modicum of freedom.
 
FourT6and2":o5nnhkdq said:
Bueller":o5nnhkdq said:
I love it when people use the excuse that it is their company and they can do what ever they want.

That’s very convenient after you basically monopolize something and then start making up all kinds of rules. Leaving no viable alternative.

In the internet age this is called a technocracy.

Reverb hasn't monopolized anything. You can use eBay, Craigslist, the newspaper, Let Go, gear forums (like this one), any number of other resources, or start your own web-based musical gear for-sale company.

Yes, here in the USA, a private company can play judge, jury, and dictator regarding their own practices. If you don't like it, don't use their service. Use a different one. Or open your own company. That's not an excuse. That's a fact of life in a capitalistic economy with any modicum of freedom.

There is no equivalency in the musical gear market to Reverb. eBay is probably their closet competitor and is no where near as close. Forums are a fraction of a percent of the market to boot.

Sure it will still be easy to sell that pedal on other platforms. But to have the biggest platform say no is troubling.

Just like there is no equivalency to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube , Google ect. They dictate the rules because they know there is little options out there. This is not capitalism.
 
Speeddemon":19frdgdv said:
stratjacket":19frdgdv said:
a left wing nazi socialist pedal.

:confused: :lol: :LOL:

Oh, and people that call something (or country) that's effectively (pseudo-)communist dictatorship-run 'socialism' really need to step up their education level. :doh:

Carry on. :thumbsup:

I think you missed the point. I will try to be more clear. The name of the pedal is irrelevant. I'd feel the same way about banning it no matter what the expression was.

As for the confusion around my left wing nazi statement, this may help. Please at least watch from the 30 second mark to around 1:40.
 
mdc1mdc11":37yewl77 said:
they have a delay coming out soon called the "poontang boomerang" I am buying that too to compliment the melter pedal I already have.

Nothing like taking an anti-establishment stance especially when the SJWs have a nefarious control purpose behind it.


:lol: :LOL:
 
Bueller":1cjjyar1 said:
Yes, Socialism is dictatorship...it’s just a facade to make people think they aren’t in one. Don’t need to “step up” my education.

Trump must be a socialist then as now it’s been stated he would be wanted as a dictator by his own support...lol
 
Bueller":3eq0okw4 said:
There is no equivalency in the musical gear market to Reverb.

Then start one. You're totally free to do that. Reverb is not a monopoly, plain and simple.

Just like there is no equivalency to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube , Google ect. They dictate the rules because they know there is little options out there. This is not capitalism.

There are alternatives to all of those. You're just choosing to ignore them. Are they as big as those companies? Maybe not. Yes, this is capitalism. Welcome to the real world, not some made up utopia where you always get your way.

You think Google is the only search engine? You think YouTube is the only platform for uploading and sharing videos? You think Facebook and Twitter are the only social networks? No. They aren't. They might be the most popular. But that's not your point now is it.

A monopoly is a specific entity. US antitrust laws are enforced by the FTC and the DOJ. And they're in place to prevent collusion between large enterprises. Reverb being the only online for-sale marketplace dedicated to musical instruments does not a monopoly make. If eBay and Reverb got together as partners to strong-arm craigslist and all other forms of online sales... then that would be a monopoly. MAYBE. You would still have plenty of ways left to sell that "greatest guitar I've ever played in my life, just isn't for me so it's for sale". ;)

For something to be a monopoly, you have to prove in court that the company's conduct causes some type of harm or restraint of trade or that the company has engaged in some practice to prevent competition in the marketplace—like collusion.
 
Facepoppies":1ev5t3mx said:
What kind of dude uses these pedals and still feels cool?

Me. If my gear doesn't offend someone I don't like it. Just how I roll, brother.
 
stratjacket":u6cp3brd said:
As for the confusion around my left wing nazi statement, this may help. Please at least watch from the 30 second mark to around 1:40.
That's one (rather American colored) view, that only focuses on the level of government by their standard that left=100% government and right is 0%.

Here's a few others ;) :
https://medium.com/@sumdepony/yes-the-nazis-were-indisputably-right-wing-9731a1ea7d36
http://theconversation.com/five-que...t-relates-to-australian-politics-today-101725
Some Australian press commentators have said that Nazism was left-wing. Is this right?
No. Nazis and fascists were decidedly right-wing and fervently anti-communist. There was a small and short-lived group of Nazis clustered around the Strasser brothers who were interested in a racial strain of anti-capitalist politics. They might loosely be termed “socialist”, but they were completely purged from the Nazi party very early on.

On coming to power, the first targets of the Nazis were communists and socialists. The formal name of the Nazi party, the NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers Party), was a failed attempt to attract workers to the party and away from the left. It failed, and the main voters for the Nazis remained the lower middle classes - the economically vulnerable who most feared the spectre of socialism.



Anywho...Mmy point is more that I had my fair share of Americans that confuse socialism with communism, just because it's apparently seen through a binary pair of glasses.

But I digress, and oh shoot...no politics here. :scared:

And FUCK YEAH for Poontang Boomerang! to be preceded by the Bucket Brigade chip equipped Chorus Clitorus. :rock:
 
LPMojoGL":1zc9xcjt said:
https://reverb.com/item/18870179-cioks-pussy-power-pink

Hypocrisy?

LOL @ the Pussy Power pedal . I don't think The Online outrage groups that strong armed Reverb to drop the Pussy Melter have seen these other pedals yet. I know Reverb didn't do this ban without outside influence because otherwise similarly named pedals wouldn't be given a pass if that were the case.
 
Speeddemon":1h284kvq said:
That's one (rather American colored) view, that only focuses on the level of government by their standard that left=100% government and right is 0%.

Here's a few others ;) :
https://medium.com/@sumdepony/yes-the-nazis-were-indisputably-right-wing-9731a1ea7d36
http://theconversation.com/five-que...t-relates-to-australian-politics-today-101725
Some Australian press commentators have said that Nazism was left-wing. Is this right?
No. Nazis and fascists were decidedly right-wing and fervently anti-communist. There was a small and short-lived group of Nazis clustered around the Strasser brothers who were interested in a racial strain of anti-capitalist politics. They might loosely be termed “socialist”, but they were completely purged from the Nazi party very early on.

On coming to power, the first targets of the Nazis were communists and socialists. The formal name of the Nazi party, the NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers Party), was a failed attempt to attract workers to the party and away from the left. It failed, and the main voters for the Nazis remained the lower middle classes - the economically vulnerable who most feared the spectre of socialism.



Anywho...Mmy point is more that I had my fair share of Americans that confuse socialism with communism, just because it's apparently seen through a binary pair of glasses.

But I digress, and oh shoot...no politics here. :scared:

And FUCK YEAH for Poontang Boomerang! to be preceded by the Bucket Brigade chip equipped Chorus Clitorus. :rock:

It’s cool man, I’m not here to argue about any of that and I apologize for drifting off subject. I would like to add that you are correct, in a European view in that context (those 2 links) Nazi’s were right wing, Communism is left. From a Republic view that we have in the US, they are both Left. But people still use that European label incorrectly to tarnish the American right even though its the polar opposite of both, definitely not binary.

Anyway, as musicians and artists, I just feel we should all be leary of a company banning things like that, even if the action feeds our political views or we think it’s disgusting or horrible. The content is irrelevant. I’d feel the same if the pedal was named “insert whatever disgusts you” (what I should have stated above instead of getting off topic with nazi shit)

I thought this would be a universal feeling among musicians.
 
Jon BCN":1ojycfgq said:
nightlight":1ojycfgq said:
Jon BCN":1ojycfgq said:
FourT6and2":1ojycfgq said:
No, you can't. That would be discriminating against a federally protected class.

This is getting better. So you can't face the same if you are black, but you can if you are white.

The land of the free.

No, he's prohibited from listing the pedal on Reverb's service. He can sell the pedal somewhere else and he is not banned from using Reverb to sell other items. You are obfuscating the details

He can sell the pedal elsewhere, sure. I don't know how can you think that is relevant to the conversation, we are talking how REVERB has invented that the pedal he is trying to sell promotes violence against women and therefore he is banned from selling it on REVERB.

You are bringin details that don't matter at all.

No, you can't. Because that is a federally protected class. Again, you can't make up an unprotected reason for discriminating against a protected class. It doesn't work that way.

Yes you can, you don't even know if the seller of the Pussy Melter is black, trans or whatever. What if he was? They invented a reason to not allowing him to sell something, they can do it again as much as they want, according to people like you who are fine with this type of abuse.

I think you need to do some reading and then come back in a few months and tell us what you learned.

I have been reading for years and I learned a lot about how the USA and other western societies are becoming so backwards and puritan in the name of "social justice".

Your country has just now literally banned a videogame scene that the rest of the world is ok with, even middle east countries infestes with taliban mentality. And there's thousands and thousands of situations like that in every part of your society.



Why the anger and hatred, man?

I think it is good that people are trying to prevent discrimination.

How can you even equate banning the sale of a pedal with discrimination against people who are different?

What are you babbling about Middle East countries and the Taliban anyway? Are you looking to start some kind of race war?

If you are not angry at people discriminating, why you claim to be against it?

A company is literally inventing reasons to discriminate. That’s precisely why SJW are so dangerous, they are fascists masquerading with supposed good intentions.

And what you don’t understand about taliban countries being okay with a scene that is banned in the USA? That’s the level of puritanism your country is in. What the hell are you babbling about race wars?


Wait a minute. What kind of argument is that? Of course I am against discrimination, whether it is against whites, blacks, browns, yellows, reds or whatever.

It obviously makes me angry in all its forms. I won't tolerate some white kid being bullied anymore than I would tolerate a Chinese kid being bullied.

That said... Dude, banning a pedal from sale is not discrimination. First off, try and understand that.

If I don't like your views or think that they are dangerous or harmful to someone else, I will not let you in my house or sell your products at my shop as an individual.

That is my freedom of choice. You don't own me and if I reject your views, it is not discrimination.

Two, I mentioned race wars because you're making something about a pedal being banned into some kind of argument about race and white people being discriminated against.
 
EXPcustom":zq930q2f said:
This is why I will never sell my offensive guitars. :thumbsup:

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Wow, that is beautiful. I would definitely hold on to those.
 
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