Some Uber Ultra action

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cant say this one is doing much for me, sounds kinda bloated and the gain structure just sounds not together if that makes any sense?? great demo as always though
 
Beyond Black said:
And that’s why they can’t be trusted.
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It does take a while to find good ones yeah. But once you find one (or a blend of them) you love, then that sound becomes just as trustworthy as any real mic’d cab tone.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
It does take a while to find good ones yeah. But once you find one (or a blend of them) you love, then that sound becomes just as trustworthy as any real mic’d cab tone.
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Oh I know they can sound great. Sometimes they sound a little too good and aren’t accurate representations of how the amp will sound in a room.
 
Beyond Black said:
Oh I know they can sound great. Sometimes they sound a little too good and aren’t accurate representations of how the amp will sound in a room.
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I'd say no recorded signal full stop captures the sound of an amp in a room..

They're 2 totally different things.

Since I'm the only one who hears an amp in a room and everybody else will hear it recorded or in a mix... I therefore care way more about how an amp sounds recorded than in the room.
But that's just me.
 
saxxamafone said:
I'd say no recorded signal full stop captures the sound of an amp in a room..

They're 2 totally different things.

Since I'm the only one who hears an amp in a room and everybody else will hear it recorded or in a mix... I therefore care way more about how an amp sounds recorded than in the room.
But that's just me.
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This is why I laugh at the modeling vs real amp crowd.

We are also completely opposite - I care about how the amp sounds in the room over how it’s recorded. You can always adjust or tweak with recordings to make an amp sound how you believe it’s perceived in person.
 
Some strange details going on in this Uber Ultra thread.

Hey @Bxlxaxkxe

One thing I haven’t heard yet, that actually hasn’t been shown on any single Uber Ultra video on the internet at this point, is how the amp sounds with the Density and Depth full up, Presence set on the “U” switch… and the Presence knob turned way down. That’s how you get the original Uber’s gigantic wall of sound scooped mids thing, but no clips have shown the Presence control set on U with the knob below like 1:00.

All signs point to that setting making for a really cool, familiar old school Uberschall tone.


edit: just caught your latest video, sounds even better than the first one! Man what a great sounding amp.

 
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glpg80 said:
This is why I laugh at the modeling vs real amp crowd.

We are also completely opposite - I care about how the amp sounds in the room over how it’s recorded. You can always adjust or tweak with recordings to make an amp sound how you believe it’s perceived in person.
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oh man I think this is another can of worms again 😂

I'm not into modeling, only into real amps, but not into how an amp sounds in the room haha

There's also a production/recording vs jamming/solo wanking crowd.

Both crowds here will still be into either modeling or real amps... but the production/recording crowd definitely care more about mic'd tone more than room tone.

the funny one to me is guys who only care about in the room tone yet they reference trying to create tones like an album they've heard... which of course is a mic'd tone, not room tone 🤦‍♂️
 
I'm assuming the his is your LP with custom buckers? Man I love A3 magnets and high gain. They are among the best cleans and just sit right the pocket with high gain amps. I really try to avoid making any bridge pickups in the PAF ranges, but damn those sound great. I just did up a set of 9k/A3 bridge and 8k/A3 neck and there's just something about them that I really like.
 
saxxamafone said:
I'd say no recorded signal full stop captures the sound of an amp in a room..

They're 2 totally different things.

Since I'm the only one who hears an amp in a room and everybody else will hear it recorded or in a mix... I therefore care way more about how an amp sounds recorded than in the room.
But that's just me.
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Unless you’re me playing it in the room.
 
saxxamafone said:
oh man I think this is another can of worms again 😂
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Yep, big 'ol can of worms and, like anything tone related - there will never be agreement amongst us.

I've never heard a recording that sounds like actually being in the room, others say they have. When I hear them, it just sounds like a 'roomy' and indistinct recording, but not like being in the room at all...and this is where is becomes totally subjective and the wheels fall off.

The I.R thing is well established and can indeed sound excellent, and I'm a cab-miking die hard. The main issue as I see it, is that there are far more bad examples about than good.

I can say definitively though, when an I.R is created and utilised well by sufficiently skilled users - it can range from very good sounding, to completely indistinguishable from a miked cab. The latter is less common than the former of course, but it is possible!
 
glpg80 said:
This is why I laugh at the modeling vs real amp crowd.

We are also completely opposite - I care about how the amp sounds in the room over how it’s recorded. You can always adjust or tweak with recordings to make an amp sound how you believe it’s perceived in person.
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I’m also talking about trying to gauge an amp to potentially purchase. I bought an amp before that sounded monstrous in an IR recorded clip, only to be very disappointed when it arrived.
 
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Beyond Black said:
I’m also talking about trying to gauge an amp to potentially purchase. I bought an amp before that sounded monstrous in an IR recorded clip, o lot be very disappointed when it arrived.
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It’s why I invested over $5,000 in recording gear this year. The enmity will be something I’ll offer in limited runs but not before capturing what I’ve already got and setting up a website. No way would I offer mods based on IRs alone.
 
ZEN Amps said:
Yep, big 'ol can of worms and, like anything tone related - there will never be agreement amongst us.

I've never heard a recording that sounds like actually being in the room, others say they have. When I hear them, it just sounds like a 'roomy' and indistinct recording, but not like being in the room at all...and this is where is becomes totally subjective and the wheels fall off.

The I.R thing is well established and can indeed sound excellent, and I'm a cab-miking die hard. The main issue as I see it, is that there are far more bad examples about than good.

I can say definitively though, when an I.R is created and utilised well by sufficiently skilled users - it can range from very good sounding, to completely indistinguishable from a miked cab. The latter is less common than the former of course, but it is possible!
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Totally agree mate.

The other thing guys forget is there's plenty of poor examples of micing too.

You're relying on people's skill and experience regardless of what option you take.

I use both IR and miked and both can get you there.

Then there's the whole 'amazing amps that guys make sound totally crap' and vice versa.

We seem to blame the technology or gear before blaming the player these days.

Maybe i'm just old man yelling at cloud
 
saxxamafone said:
Totally agree mate.

The other thing guys forget is there's plenty of poor examples of micing too.

You're relying on people's skill and experience regardless of what option you take.

I use both IR and miked and both can get you there.

Then there's the whole 'amazing amps that guys make sound totally crap' and vice versa.

We seem to blame the technology or gear before blaming the player these days.

Maybe i'm just old man yelling at cloud
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It's a philosophical difference which even exists between players and mix engineers. Amps that are mic'd or through an IR are not a good representation of what an amp sounds like in the room. Some people will not ever track and just want the experience of being in the same room as the amp to play. That is valid. When you track guitars in a mix context, the "in the room feeling" is not important as you are trying to capture a piece of air with a mic that has the characteristics you want in a mix. Way different than capturing allllll the data from the source. That is also valid. It's just about intended use in my opinion and what you value. I think there are some great IR makers and very talented engineers who know how to mic a cab (and also have great gear and great knowlege with how to use said gear to get the sound)--but there are some very bad examples of IRs/traditional recording also. I, personally, do not mind an IR, particularly if it is well done and consistent between amps as I can spot some of the differences with some of the variables removed.
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
I still have no idea how to set this amp up. I land on different settings every time I turn it on- so many options, especially on channel 2.

Anyway, couple sounds I got yesterday. Should have put tape over the damn LEDs

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wow !! killer killer tones !! any boost in front? its a behemoth !!
 
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