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Meathead
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It's like he's hitting everything on the guitar that's a semi-tone out for absolute tension.
mentoneman
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mrp5150
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mentoneman":66486 said:
That dude parading around like a retard really makes Derek's playing come alive doesn't it?
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Meathead
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That's just silly.Megadeth7684":8d301 said:
mrp5150
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Randy Van Sykes":11a36 said:That's just silly.Megadeth7684":11a36 said:
I hope by silly you mean amazing?
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Meathead
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um no.Megadeth7684":c2a69 said:Randy Van Sykes":c2a69 said:That's just silly.Megadeth7684":c2a69 said:
I hope by silly you mean amazing?
mrp5150
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Randy Van Sykes":ad6ee said:
I have a feeling Derek Bailey himself created a bunch of YouTube accounts and is posting all these comments...
"Derek Bailey was one of the masters of guitar. You could use any numbers of his albums as a benchmark for how embedded in guitar tradition were by how much they freaked out while listening to them! This is amazing."
"If I had heard this without the video to accompany it I would not have guessed that it was a guitar playing! This is a really unique piece of music with very innovative guitar technique to go along with the dancing."
"That s f....great!!!Thanks!"
"I do wonder why Bailey restricted himself to the guitar. It seems to actually inhibit what he wants to do. You can see him here, looking at the thing as if to say, "I wonder how else I can attack this thing?" Does Bailey always limit himself to 'right hand pluck/left hand fret' or does he break out of that?
Jandek does this--although perhaps not intentionally, well, semi-intentionally. Har.
Nice challenging stuff."
"what's cool about this music is the interpretation. Bailey has his purpose and intentions at different times during this video. We can try to figure it out. We can also have our own. The dude had his own. It was interesting to see how he was interpreting every harmonic."
mentoneman
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Megadeth7684":23230 said:That dude parading around like a retard really makes Derek's playing come alive doesn't it?
made my day
mrp5150
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mentoneman":704a7 said:Megadeth7684":704a7 said:That dude parading around like a retard really makes Derek's playing come alive doesn't it?
made my day
I also enjoy the one with Derek and the dude banging on some pots and pans. Or the one with Derek and some guy stomping his feet on the ground while sitting in a chair. Revolutionary stuff.
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MrDan666
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These videos are too good. I hope one day i can be as good as Derek Bailey...
Seriously... someone needs to plug him into Ralph and Kage's MKIII Coli rig and hear him play that shit with ROBOGAIN!!
Seriously... someone needs to plug him into Ralph and Kage's MKIII Coli rig and hear him play that shit with ROBOGAIN!! 
degenaro
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Luckily enough one doesn't need any qualifier to have an opinion...Megadeth7684":84970 said:Odin":84970 said:
This dude is hands down the worst guitarist I've ever heard, no contest. His videos are so hilarious though. I'm laughing my ass off at this random garbage.
mrp5150
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degenaro":770ae said:Luckily enough one doesn't need any qualifier to have an opinion...Megadeth7684":770ae said:Odin":770ae said:
This dude is hands down the worst guitarist I've ever heard, no contest. His videos are so hilarious though. I'm laughing my ass off at this random garbage.
Derek Bailey FTW.
mentoneman
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degenaro":7be7e said:Luckily enough one doesn't need any qualifier to have an opinion...Megadeth7684":7be7e said:Odin":7be7e said:
This dude is hands down the worst guitarist I've ever heard, no contest. His videos are so hilarious though. I'm laughing my ass off at this random garbage.
ed do you know this guy personally?
degenaro
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No...but I know guys that are hardcore influenced by him, like Henry Kaiser.mentoneman":25666 said:
I almost quit posting on HRI because of Derek Bailey slammage, can't stomach closed minded shit, this is what I post on TGP re closed minded...
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Ya know what bugs me?
Closed minded shit!
Threads whining about Henry Kaiser or Derek Bailey. "I can't relate to it, and it doesn't fit my precisely engineered little boxes I use to compartmentalize playing therefore it's garbage". type attitude.
Cuts the other way too...John mayer sucks because...Yngwie sucks because.
yeah, yeah, whatever.
Like all the nonsense about the EVH outta tune you tube clip. Who gives a damn whether he is ouuta tune on one song, all the guessing about the why, yet I haven't heard the most obvious...is it possible that in the flow didn't matter, or the mix was crap enough, yada, yada, yada...
bottom line if every aspiring woulda been a contenter spent a bit more time looking in the proverbial mirror we might have a happier world.
Pat you know I dig your way with words and we had disagreements in the past, I can hang with your take on DB, but what bugs me - A LOT- is with the inter nets lemming approach when it snowballs into the "worst player I ever heard" coming from student level players Dig?
Strat+Marshall
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This is not my cup of tea, however:
There is interesting music in his playing, if you can't hear it maybe you need to adjust your scope. If there was a universal "good" to music, then everyone would learn it and everyone would play it. The different and odd stuff is really what makes stuff cool. This is a bit much for my tastes, but it is still worth hearing and actually listening to. Music is just sound in the end, so if this is what the Derek Bailey hears in his head and he wants to express it, he would be stupid not to. I'd rather listen to something like this where the musician is actually trying to do something rather than the regurgitated metal shit most guitarists these days pine over but opinions are like assholes.
There is interesting music in his playing, if you can't hear it maybe you need to adjust your scope. If there was a universal "good" to music, then everyone would learn it and everyone would play it. The different and odd stuff is really what makes stuff cool. This is a bit much for my tastes, but it is still worth hearing and actually listening to. Music is just sound in the end, so if this is what the Derek Bailey hears in his head and he wants to express it, he would be stupid not to. I'd rather listen to something like this where the musician is actually trying to do something rather than the regurgitated metal shit most guitarists these days pine over but opinions are like assholes.
Code001
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degenaro":bb7f4 said:
Close minded? So if people have opinions about a subject, they're close minded? If people dislike something, they're close minded? From the way I'm reading this, it seems like you want everyone on the internet to write only good things about various subject matters. If this is the case, what is the point of having a forum in the first place? A forum is a place where you can express your opinions and viewpoints freely with the others.
Let me ask you this: Do you like every piece of music you've ever heard? If not, then something has to be on the opposite of the spectrum, correct? Last time I checked, the opposite of like was dislike. By feeling that emotion of distaste, you're effectively forming an opinion about something that another person won't agree with.
I can understand where you're coming from when it comes to blatant bashing and people mocking something when they're not better/successful/insert word here. However, to force people into writing only good things will only display half the story.
degenaro
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I'm not forcing anyone into anything. but read this thread it's a total "can't relate to it=shit" bash.Code001":18592 said:
There's a huge grand canyon between not digging something and the internet typical "worst crap ever'.
Yeah, there's plenty of stuff I don't dig, I move on and don't worry about it. If I dig something I say it, if I don't I won't bother commenting.
As a side note I really don't get the "right to my opinion" attitude though, yeah sure we all can force feed opinions to each other...but why? What fucking good is the right to an opinion when who you're telling it to is just gonna shrug it off anyways.
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CaseyCor
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I'm writing a research paper on Surrealism/Dadaism/Postmodernism, and out of all the stupid (and great things, of corse) this shit takes the cake.
I'm glad to see someone else here knows who Bireli Lagrene is! He's fucking amazing!
I'm glad to see someone else here knows who Bireli Lagrene is! He's fucking amazing!
Code001
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degenaro":5dbe0 said:
You may not be forcing it, but you sure are pushing it fairly heavily. I don't see the issue with someone saying X or Y is crap. That's their own right that the EFF is trying to defend. Also, expressing one's opinion on a forum is far from "force feeding" it to someone. There are many emotional and psychological reasons as to why someone might want to express an opinion, even if a majority of the people will not listen.