The EG5 Rocks!!!!!

[richedie]

Yes, the BMan rocks! Great for old AC/DC, Rush, Led Zep, VH!

I like the MHG but it seems to lack some cut at times. Is that what you guys notice? Is the EG5 really bright? I hear Lynch references...so it is very 80s? I know Lynch used everything but I want thick modern out of this one....ala Bogner (Just more cut).

Don't think I'll buy the Rec but I want the SL2 and EG3/4!

How much to have the MHG moddded to EG5 and how much time????

I also see guys talking about cranking the master when using 6V6s. Is that a big benefit of those tubes? Do you lose low end and headroom?

Rich

The EG5 will cut like no other module. It is cool at bedroom levels, but unreal in a gigging situation. The MHG sounds thick and full at lower volumes and with no bass player or kick drum. Now move it into a band situation with bass and kick and you are trying to get it to cut so you turn the mid knob and it just gets nasal and doesnt fit in the mix.

Yes the EG5 can be extremely bright. That being said when at low volumes,( myself and Matt... (both Treble Nazi's) run treble at say 12. When you start to move air, say gigging levels, I am running it at 9 or 10 tops. Presence off. Use your ears not your eyes is my best recommendation. Remember, your speakers are cause more high end to be heard by our ears than bass as the volume increases! Its a matter of science. Matt will attest to what the EG5 did at his latest rehersal.

Modifiing your MHG to EG5 specs will take $75 bucks and with shipping time a week at most. Call the shop 248-541-9100 ask for Chris..my sister and she will take care of you!

I love what my 6v6's sound like..they are big at low volumes..I mean I run no density and bass never higher than 11 on all of my modules. I run my master on the amp all the time at 1 o clock and use the masters on the modules there after..its all a preference...remember use your ears not your eyes! Now I intregrated at set of el 34's and a set of 6v6's and got a great blend of mids and bottom...but not 6l6 bottom, which is to much to me. The nice thing about the 6v6's is in the MOD 50 you get 25 full power watts and about 4 on low...

anything else just fire away!

Jeff

Jeff,

Good points on the EG5 and that is what I hear about the SL2 in a gig situation as well. Even though I want to trade the EG5 for the EG3/4, I can't get myself to do it yet....I still can't get the gain past 11:00, but with treble down and mids calmed to about 10-11:00, it can do anything from AC/DC to Led Zep to Alice in Chains. I just have to see if the insane gain becomes too much. I don't feel it is only 80s metal.......it has a ton of mids and highs, but adjust ccordingly and you can make it dark and thick - great Alice in Chains tone. Only reason I may sell is if I get the Pete Turely modded Randall XTC module.

Guys, and especially Jeff.......does the EG3/4 fair well for cutting in a band as well??? Thanks!

 

[Buckeyedog]

The EG5 was crushing at the gig this past Saturday night!! Paired with the Bassman was just so sweet and rockin'.

 

[EWSEthan]

The EG5 was crushing at the gig this past Saturday night!! Paired with the Bassman was just so sweet and rockin'.

Kevin, its posts like this that will probably make the SL2 get the night off my the next show!

 

[richedie]

The EG5 was crushing at the gig this past Saturday night!! Paired with the Bassman was just so sweet and rockin'.

Kevin, its posts like this that will probably make the SL2 get the night off my the next show!

Matt, how versaile is the Recto? Are there enough mids for leads.

 

[EWSEthan]

The EG5 was crushing at the gig this past Saturday night!! Paired with the Bassman was just so sweet and rockin'.

Kevin, its posts like this that will probably make the SL2 get the night off my the next show!

Matt, how versaile is the Recto? Are there enough mids for leads.

It has reasonable amounts of gain. Definitely has enough, but it doesnt come to full saturation as quickly as EG5.

It will cut fine (like any properly dialed in Rectifier), but I dont think you will like it. Think King's X "Dogman" or Winger "Pull". Thats what it sounds like. Basically the best Rectifier you've ever heard. But it appropriately feels stiff like a Rectifier. Much less gain than the EG5, but I just dont think its for you.

 

[Valtiel]

It will cut fine (like any properly dialed in Rectifier), but I dont think you will like it. Think King's X "Dogman" or Winger "Pull". Thats what it sounds like. Basically the best Rectifier you've ever heard. But it appropriately feels stiff like a Rectifier. Much less gain than the EG5, but I just dont think its for you.

Is Tabor playing through a Recto on that video of Dogman when they played on Jon Stewarts show?

 

[EWSEthan]

It will cut fine (like any properly dialed in Rectifier), but I dont think you will like it. Think King's X "Dogman" or Winger "Pull". Thats what it sounds like. Basically the best Rectifier you've ever heard. But it appropriately feels stiff like a Rectifier. Much less gain than the EG5, but I just dont think its for you.

Is Tabor playing through a Recto on that video of Dogman when they played on Jon Stewarts show?

Cant tell for sure without actually seeing his rack, but it sure sounds like it to me. The wall of Mesa cabs behind seems to support the idea as well.

Interestingly, I remember reading that he always slaved them out to a Mesa poweramp instead of using the amp's power section. Not sure why though. Wonder how much that played in his Rectifier tone being so so good.

 

[richedie]

I used to have an early 90s dual rec with EL34s and it was pretty good. I was able to coax good lead tones but not my favorite.

 

[EWSEthan]

I used to have an early 90s dual rec with EL34s and it was pretty good. I was able to coax good lead tones but not my favorite.

If you had a Rectifier that you liked it might be worth a shot. I just get the feeling from your thoughts on MHG and EG5, that E-Rect is not the module for you. I get the impression that EG3/4 is really what you want.

 

[richedie]

Even though there are modules I want, the EG3/4, maybe the Recto, Pete modded Randall XTC and SL, maybe the Deluxe... I feel I could cover just about anything with the Bman, SL2 and EG5. Sure, I would like other modules and tones over time but really the guys I jam with or if I gig, for the most part, could care less about that level of acuracy and variety. The Bassman, SL2 and EG5 cover a tone of territory, old to new. Heck, I can even get Mesa-ish tones with the EG5 Unfortunately I can't have allthree in the amp at once but it gets the job done and again, most people won't care if I use two modules for all tones. Sometimes I actually prefer the consistency of this method than having 6 different distinct tones like when I had a Line 6 vetta.I think it makes it more difficult for the sound guy to EQ you if you constantly change patches and/or tones. I actually enjoy now using the same module for rhythm and lead, just boosting volume for lead.

 

[aeroic]

Even though there are modules I want, the EG3/4, maybe the Recto, Pete modded Randall XTC and SL, maybe the Deluxe... I feel I could cover just about anything with the Bman, SL2 and EG5. Sure, I would like other modules and tones over time but really the guys I jam with or if I gig, for the most part, could care less about that level of acuracy and variety. The Bassman, SL2 and EG5 cover a tone of territory, old to new. Heck, I can even get Mesa-ish tones with the EG5 Unfortunately I can't have allthree in the amp at once but it gets the job done and again, most people won't care if I use two modules for all tones. Sometimes I actually prefer the consistency of this method than having 6 different distinct tones like when I had a Line 6 vetta.I think it makes it more difficult for the sound guy to EQ you if you constantly change patches and/or tones. I actually enjoy now using the same module for rhythm and lead, just boosting volume for lead.

I hear ya there. I use 3-4 modules for gain differences moreso than tonal differences. I use the DLX for a super clean tone, and a gritty clean tone. Use the COD for a light gain blues tone, and a heavier gain blues tone. The SL2 and EG5 have similar EQ, just the feel of the modules are different. The EG5 is tighter, more articulate, where the SL2 has the mid-range sag and squishiness. So for me, having 4 modules is great, because I can have different feels and gain levels, but not drastically different tones. If I used the EG3/4 or the BMan, I'd have tones that wouldn't mesh as well together for what I'm looking for.

Eric

 

[richedie]

Interesting Eric because the Bassman and SL2 are a match made in heaven for me. I know Matt is the same way. I would like to try the Deluxe again but would lose that channel B of the Bassman and with only a Mod 50 I need the versatility. Who knows, maybe the Bassman and EG3/4 will be my ultimate combination. But, like you said...the SL2 can be EQed to sound close to the EG3/4 as the EG5 can be to sound like the MHG.

 

[aeroic]

Interesting Eric because the Bassman and SL2 are a match made in heaven for me. I know Matt is the same way. I would like to try the Deluxe again but would lose that channel B of the Bassman and with only a Mod 50 I need the versatility. Who knows, maybe the Bassman and EG3/4 will be my ultimate combination. But, like you said...the SL2 can be EQed to sound close to the EG3/4 as the EG5 can be to sound like the MHG.

I never really could get into the Bman. For me, I like Fender Twin / Deluxe / Super Reverb type clean tones that are really chimey, SRVish type clean tones. The Bman just never gave me what i was looking for. Plus I never needed ChB of the Bman. I used the SL2 ChA for more of that type of tone, which was tighter and more the style I was looking for .

I think the Bman is a great tone, just not tight enough for me. It was a bit mushy for my tastes.

Eric

 

[richedie]

Interesting Eric because the Bassman and SL2 are a match made in heaven for me. I know Matt is the same way. I would like to try the Deluxe again but would lose that channel B of the Bassman and with only a Mod 50 I need the versatility. Who knows, maybe the Bassman and EG3/4 will be my ultimate combination. But, like you said...the SL2 can be EQed to sound close to the EG3/4 as the EG5 can be to sound like the MHG.

I never really could get into the Bman. For me, I like Fender Twin / Deluxe / Super Reverb type clean tones that are really chimey, SRVish type clean tones. The Bman just never gave me what i was looking for. Plus I never needed ChB of the Bman. I used the SL2 ChA for more of that type of tone, which was tighter and more the style I was looking for .

I think the Bman is a great tone, just not tight enough for me. It was a bit mushy for my tastes.

Eric

I know what you mean, that is a complaint of mine. I may try the T/D or Deluxe again. I to like the SL2 channel A for that as well and then channel B for heavier stuff. I can use my volume control to vary the gain so the possibilities are endless. I think I want an EG3/4 next, the maybe a clean module or an SL! I think the SL is supposed to be plexi-like.

What do you recommend? TD or Deluxe?

 

[aeroic]

Interesting Eric because the Bassman and SL2 are a match made in heaven for me. I know Matt is the same way. I would like to try the Deluxe again but would lose that channel B of the Bassman and with only a Mod 50 I need the versatility. Who knows, maybe the Bassman and EG3/4 will be my ultimate combination. But, like you said...the SL2 can be EQed to sound close to the EG3/4 as the EG5 can be to sound like the MHG.

I never really could get into the Bman. For me, I like Fender Twin / Deluxe / Super Reverb type clean tones that are really chimey, SRVish type clean tones. The Bman just never gave me what i was looking for. Plus I never needed ChB of the Bman. I used the SL2 ChA for more of that type of tone, which was tighter and more the style I was looking for .

I think the Bman is a great tone, just not tight enough for me. It was a bit mushy for my tastes.

Eric

I know what you mean, that is a complaint of mine. I may try the T/D or Deluxe again. I to like the SL2 channel A for that as well and then channel B for heavier stuff. I can use my volume control to vary the gain so the possibilities are endless. I think I want an EG3/4 next, the maybe a clean module or an SL! I think the SL is supposed to be plexi-like.

What do you recommend? TD or Deluxe?

I personally like the DLX better, since both channels have a more of a compressed spanky sound w/ depth and a bit of grit to it. I really loved the T/D, but for me the DLX has more of the clean tone I'm looking for.

The SL was a great module, but for me I could get enough of the tones I was wanting from the ChA of the SL2.

The EG3/4 is a module I think you'll really like. Go grab one .

Eric