THE OCT CUTTIN CORRAL - Come Hang Out For A Whilst and talk about Retards and dumb shit…

[VonBonfire]

The cool thing is that whenever there's a Gay Pride event, those coming out to celebrate always far outnumber those with hate in their heart.
And every year the ratio of rainbows to ugly dark clouds is only going to get more and more lopsided.

GAY PRIDE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black souls

Well to be honest gay pride events are now festival-like parties so a lot of people are just there to get drunk and high and enjoy the party as much as they are there for "pride". I can, and do love gay people but I don't have to approve of how they choose to live. You seem to equate that with hatred. Hatred, as you noted, is forbidden by Christ. As is all sexual immorality. So let's at least be honest about it.

 

[Ben Waylin]

Hatred, as you noted, is forbidden by Christ.

wrong.

"But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Revelation 2:6

 

[Picasso]

Well to be honest gay pride events are now festival-like parties so a lot of people are just there to get drunk and high and enjoy the party as much as they are there for "pride". I can, and do love gay people but I don't have to approve of how they choose to live. You seem to equate that with hatred. Hatred, as you noted, is forbidden by Christ. As is all sexual immorality. So let's at least be honest about it.

If dudes want to suck dicks and chicks want to munch carpets, so be it. No need to celebrate it and no reason to be “proud”. The whole thing is another liberal fad aimed at grooming kids.

 

[VonBonfire]

wrong.

"But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Revelation 2:6

Hated of evil deeds is different than hatred of your fellow man. Gay people are also created in God's image as humans.

 

[Picasso]

Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam.

 

[Ben Waylin]

Hated of evil deeds is different than hatred of your fellow man. Gay people are also created in God's image as humans.

Sure, but that's not what you said, or how you said it.

 

[VonBonfire]

Sure, but that's not what you said, or how you said it.

You assigned a broader context than I meant. I should have been more clear. My apologies.

 

[Ben Waylin]

You assigned a broader context than I meant.

No I did not.

 

[Baked Bean]

Hatred, as you noted, is forbidden by Christ.

I did not note anything. I just copied something I read. I don't believe in any of this fairy tale heaven and hell stuff.
You and the others here can keep those things to yourselves. I just like pointing out Christian hypocrisy.

 

[VonBonfire]

No I did not.

You are right, you didn't. But I didn't mean it in that broad context so I guess that's on me for not being more clear.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Well to be honest gay pride events are now festival-like parties so a lot of people are just there to get drunk and high and enjoy the party as much as they are there for "pride". I can, and do love gay people but I don't have to approve of how they choose to live. You seem to equate that with hatred. Hatred, as you noted, is forbidden by Christ. As is all sexual immorality. So let's at least be honest about it.

Since this discussion is heading into the shitter anyways, I’m genuinely curious on your take, or the orthodox views on homosexuality.
More specifically where it stems from. It’s obviously been around for a long time and was prevalent enough to be specifically mentioned in the Bible; is it strictly a choice? Is it just people using their free will to live an immoral lifestyle? Do you see any weight in people that say they are just born gay and it was never a choice?
I’m not trying to work an angle or anything, I’m just interested in the “roots” of things so to speak

 

[VonBonfire]

I did not note anything. I just copied something I read. I don't believe in any of this fairy tale heaven and hell stuff.
You and the others here can keep those silly games to yourselves. I just like pointing out Christian hypocrisy.

Well your meme was about hatred. I know you don't believe, I already ascertained that when you were posting as WEF chariman. I loved that account name BTW.

 

[Baked Bean]

Do you see any weight in people that say they are just born gay and it was never a choice?
I’m not trying to work an angle or anything, I’m just interested in the “roots” of things so to speak

The book tells him homosexuality is a sin and those who partake are sinners.
The book is his gospel.
The book must not be questioned - It says so in the book.

 

[Ben Waylin]

The book tells him homosexuality is a sin and those who partake are sinners.
The book is his gospel.
The book must not be questioned - It says so in the book.

You sure do sound familiar.

 

[311splawndude]

No more sexual than a man talking about his wife or a woman talking about her husband. Orientation shouldn’t be seen as sexual only when it’s homosexual

Can you try again - that doesn't really make sense (to me).

Lesbian = women prefer women
Gay = prefer same sex partner
Bisexual = sex with both
Transexual/Transgener = changing your gender mentally and possible mutilation
Queer = all of the above
Intersex = actual physical anomalies but can identify either way
Asexual = not sure why this is on here
2 = two spirit, again not sure why this is a thing
+ = plus everything else

Again, for the most part these are all sexual terms that refer to how people are attracted to each other or their parts etc. You said before that Drag Queen Story Hour was not about homosexuality or had sexual elements. I feel like it does. These are all adult concepts. Not for kids.

 

[311splawndude]

That's cool. Just keep it out of the classroom

 

[acceptance]

Can you try again - that doesn't really make sense (to me).

Lesbian = women prefer women
Gay = prefer same sex partner
Bisexual = sex with both
Transexual/Transgener = changing your gender mentally and possible mutilation
Queer = all of the above
Intersex = actual physical anomalies but can identify either way
Asexual = not sure why this is on here
2 = two spirit, again not sure why this is a thing
+ = plus everything else

Again, for the most part these are all sexual terms that refer to how people are attracted to each other or their parts etc. You said before that Drag Queen Story Hour was not about homosexuality or had sexual elements. I feel like it does. These are all adult concepts. Not for kids.

The whole thing is obviously about sexual orientation and identity. People are obsessed with it, just like they're obsessed with race.

 

[VonBonfire]

Since this discussion is heading into the shitter anyways, I’m genuinely curious on your take, or the orthodox views on homosexuality.
More specifically where it stems from. It’s obviously been around for a long time and was prevalent enough to be specifically mentioned in the Bible; is it strictly a choice? Is it just people using their free will to live an immoral lifestyle? Do you see any weight in people that say they are just born gay and it was never a choice?
I’m not trying to work an angle or anything, I’m just interested in the “roots” of things so to speak

There are new and old testament prohibitions against dressing like the opposite sex as well as engaging in same sex activity. Many christians love to point that out while forgetting to add that the bible prohibits all sexual immorality in both the new and old testaments so fornicators are not without guilt. Any sexual activity outside of a traditional man-woman marriage is prohibited.

I know people have natural fleshly desires and tendencies. There is no gay gene so I wouldn't really agree with "born this way". I can believe a tendency that one chooses to engage or not engage. In orthodoxy we call these fleshly desires and tendencies "passions". People are drawn to sex, money, drugs,fame, power, thrill seeking, etc. Every person will have their particular passions they will war against. The goal of an orthodox christian life is to rid oneself of the passions, to remove them from between you and the Lord, because they separate us from him. This is why we try to refrain from judging others. You need to worry about what's on your own plate and if one is honest with oneself that is enough to keep a person busy. To judge a person unworthy because they have engaged in sexual immorality is to place yourself in a judgement seat that belongs to Christ only and set your own self up as judge. A grave error. We can judge the deeds but not the person. The orthodox church is meant as a spiritual hospital where we are offered forgveness for our sins through confession and holy communion, not a courtroom where we condemn others. Thanks for asking!

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Can you try again - that doesn't really make sense (to me).

Lesbian = women prefer women
Gay = prefer same sex partner
Bisexual = sex with both
Transexual/Transgener = changing your gender mentally and possible mutilation
Queer = all of the above
Intersex = actual physical anomalies but can identify either way
Asexual = not sure why this is on here
2 = two spirit, again not sure why this is a thing
+ = plus everything else

Again, for the most part these are all sexual terms that refer to how people are attracted to each other or their parts etc. You said before that Drag Queen Story Hour was not about homosexuality or had sexual elements. I feel like it does. These are all adult concepts. Not for kids.

I don’t think it’s fair to consider those things “sexual elements” in this context.

Conversely, a story about a princess falling in love with a prince would not be seen as having any sexual elements. Why should a prince falling in love with another prince be seen as “sexual”?

Basically what I’m saying is that discussing orientation shouldn’t only be seen as sexual when it is homosexual.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

There are new and old testament prohibitions against dressing like the opposite sex as well as engaging in same sex activity. Many christians love to point that out while forgetting to add that the bible prohibits all sexual immorality in both the new and old testaments so fornicators are not without guilt. Any sexual activity outside of a traditional man-woman marriage is prohibited.

I know people have natural fleshly desires and tendencies. There is no gay gene so I wouldn't really agree with "born this way". I can believe a tendency that one chooses to engage or not engage. In orthodoxy we call these fleshly desires and tendencies "passions". People are drawn to sex, money, drugs,fame, power, thrill seeking, etc. Every person will have their particular passions they will war against. The goal of an orthodox christian life is to rid oneself of the passions, to remove them from between you and the Lord, because they separate us from him. This is why we try to refrain from judging others. You need to worry about what's on your own plate and if one is honest with oneself that is enough to keep a person busy. To judge a person unworthy because they have engaged in sexual immorality is to place yourself in a judgement seat that belongs to Christ only and set your own self up as judge. A grave error. We can judge the deeds but not the person. The orthodox church is meant as a spiritual hospital where we are offered forgveness for our sins through confession and holy communion, not a courtroom where we condemn others. Thanks for asking!

Right on man, I appreciate the thoughtful answer