This whole thing sucks!

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DEWD":26kb2v0o said:
psychodave":26kb2v0o said:
Like it or not, Mark knows tone and makes a killer amp. This is why his amps consistently selll for top dollar over all the other modders.

This will not hold true with the CCV's when they are readily available through KG. Used ones will sell at 60% of the new price like everything else does these days. Doesn't matter how good the tone is, it's supply and demand.

agreed they will not sell for more than new when amps are readily available. I would say a good preowned would trade for 75/80% of a new one.
 
How many people besides Rig Talk are familiar with Cameron's work?
It don't see it all on TGP and not on Huge Racks albeit I have not been on Huge Racks for a long time.
 
IntenseJim":b920z00m said:
How many people besides Rig Talk are familiar with Cameron's work?
It don't see it all on TGP and not on Huge Racks albeit I have not been on Huge Racks for a long time.

His mods are very well known.
 
psychodave":1ok53udw said:
DEWD":1ok53udw said:
psychodave":1ok53udw said:
Like it or not, Mark knows tone and makes a killer amp. This is why his amps consistently selll for top dollar over all the other modders.

This will not hold true with the CCV's when they are readily available through KG. Used ones will sell at 60% of the new price like everything else does these days. Doesn't matter how good the tone is, it's supply and demand.


Except for the CCV's made by the master himself. ;) :D

60% huh... that means the price will be $1920 used. For $1920 used,...why buy new? I guarantee they will NEVER sell that low. But what do I know... ;)

And there are a lot of people familiar with Marks work. I have seen several thread on TGP about Camerons amps. I have even read TGP amp fests with CCV's present and given good reviews. The great thing now is that with the help of Brad, more people will get to own them and use them. :thumbsup:


Yeah. That would be cheap. I'd still guess they'd pull in the upper $2ks after Brad starts shipping. Except the back panels. I heard Brad was gonna sell those for $800. ;) :lol: :LOL:
 
psychodave":2801e3w3 said:
DEWD":2801e3w3 said:
psychodave":2801e3w3 said:
Like it or not, Mark knows tone and makes a killer amp. This is why his amps consistently selll for top dollar over all the other modders.

This will not hold true with the CCV's when they are readily available through KG. Used ones will sell at 60% of the new price like everything else does these days. Doesn't matter how good the tone is, it's supply and demand.


Except for the CCV's made by the master himself. ;) :D

60% huh... that means the price will be $1920 used. For $1920 used,...why buy new? I guarantee they will NEVER sell that low. But what do I know... ;)

And there are a lot of people familiar with Marks work. I have seen several thread on TGP about Camerons amps. I have even read TGP amp fests with CCV's present and given good reviews. The great thing now is that with the help of Brad, more people will get to own them and use them. :thumbsup:

Not trying to be a negative nancy dickwad here but the hand wired one's by masterMark look sloppy as shit and I see there value dropping drastically as soon as production kicks in.

It's hard not to say this is the best sounding amp when you have so much time and money invested into it plus when you know it's worth more used.. A guy wouldn't want to say anything negitive about the amp in fear of it loosing it value.
 
psychodave":11qa1cuz said:
DEWD":11qa1cuz said:
psychodave":11qa1cuz said:
Like it or not, Mark knows tone and makes a killer amp. This is why his amps consistently selll for top dollar over all the other modders.

This will not hold true with the CCV's when they are readily available through KG. Used ones will sell at 60% of the new price like everything else does these days. Doesn't matter how good the tone is, it's supply and demand.


Except for the CCV's made by the master himself. ;) :D

60% huh... that means the price will be $1920 used. For $1920 used,...why buy new? I guarantee they will NEVER sell that low. But what do I know... ;)

And there are a lot of people familiar with Marks work. I have seen several thread on TGP about Camerons amps. I have even read TGP amp fests with CCV's present and given good reviews. The great thing now is that with the help of Brad, more people will get to own them and use them. :thumbsup:

I used to see most nice amps sell for around 75-80% of their new price but lately when people post up used amps at those prices, no one buys them. I don't think they'll ever sell for under $2K either but the days of getting top dollar for stuff are long gone IMO.

I'm interested to see if the CCVs that Mark made will sell for more $$ than the Barrang CCVs if that works out of course. :D
 
I sure hope you guys are right about the used ccv pricse coming down, that'd be sick! ... being that is the greatest sounding amp out of all I've personally owned , played or tried... if it came down in price i'd buy a second to use live... I don't like bringing the #2 made ccv in the world out to gigs...

In reality i don't forsee it happening though, but HEY i could be wrong...

cheers
 
We wont saturate the market in CCV's either. As Enzo Ferrari used to famously say, always make one less car than you can sell.
 
King Guitar":dlrfy1g0 said:
We wont saturate the market in CCV's either. As Enzo Ferrari used to famously say, always make one less car than you can sell.

I think when you start taking orders, there is going to be some saturation of the pants taking place. ;) :lol: :LOL:
 
dawnofdreamx97":32cddzhk said:
being that is the greatest sounding amp out of all I've personally owned , played or tried...

This is why I'll buy one. Too many people have said that for it not to be a killer amp. :rock:
 
I might buy another CCV to practice with, just to keep my VH4 and Fortin fresh for gigs.
 
The new amps will be superiorior in sound, parts, stability and the overall design will be more efficient. The design of the main board will be slightly changed to allow for the loop and to make the amp more stable and quieter. We are going to use better filters, caps and pots and those will make a huge difference in the sound quality.
 
So will the first orders be filled through KG, TM or all of the above?
 
Tone Merchant":1i8o5ayy said:
The new amps will be superiorior in sound, parts, stability and the overall design will be more efficient. The design of the main board will be slightly changed to allow for the loop and to make the amp more stable and quieter. We are going to use better filters, caps and pots and those will make a huge difference in the sound quality.


Good stuff Rob!
The "handwired by whoever's" will now be a "prototype" to the new and improved CCV.
 
Tone Merchant":r0gigrgm said:
The new amps will be superiorior in sound, parts, stability and the overall design will be more efficient. The design of the main board will be slightly changed to allow for the loop and to make the amp more stable and quieter. We are going to use better filters, caps and pots and those will make a huge difference in the sound quality.


That's great.
 
steve_k":32rceav8 said:
I might buy another CCV to practice with, just to keep my VH4 and Fortin fresh for gigs.
Where you playing at the local Camel Jockey Inn? :lol: :LOL: :rock:
 
DEWD":5rk5eqgk said:
So will the first orders be filled through KG, TM or all of the above?

All the orders will go through me. I represent KG, TM & CA

Myself, Rob and Dave are partners in the Cameron Amplifier Brand.

When you order them from me you are ordering them from us, one in the same.

I think with the BS that has gone before with too many chefs and ordering, one trusted source with transparency and excellent communication is the way to roll on this. :rock:
 
psychodave":3nsy2i03 said:
steve_k":3nsy2i03 said:
I might buy another CCV to practice with, just to keep my VH4 and Fortin fresh for gigs.

I knew that you would... :lol: :LOL:


How about taking that Fortin off of the mantle and making a clip? :D
:lol: :LOL:
 
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