Tube amps have become obsolete

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pretty much TL;DR all posts but, opinions and assholes - everyone's got one and if it ain't yours, you'll typically think it stinks.

touring - ease of transport - and DI recording; Fractal - Kemper - if money were the deciding factor it would be hard not to say these options win

but tube amps aren't becoming obsolete - there'll always be a market for hot-tube tones
 
What an awful way to try and advertise a seemingly pretty cool amp.

He's also only into one type of tone

The boring sneap nuthugger emg/boost/v30/57 thing

This right here nails Glenn Fricker's whole gimmick.

A while back, he made a video trashing the Axe-Fx III and talked non stop about how it was a total waste of money... very specifically because it "did the same thing as a 5150 but costs three times as much" (this was before Ed's death). He didn't even acknowledge that "the 5150 sound" was like 0.3% of what the Axe-Fx can do, because why would he? Why would anybody possibly want any other guitar sound, right?

The very idea that there might be a guitar player somewhere in the world that might want something other than a dry 5150 tone, some of the time, and possibly even outside of the studio, is totally lost on him.
 
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This right here nails Glenn Fricker's whole gimmick.

The very idea that there might be a guitar player somewhere in the world that might want something other than a 5150 tone, some of the time, and possibly even outside of the studio, is totally lost on him.

It seriously drives me nuts. It's a self fulfilling prophecy or feedback loop of everyone using the same gear and going for the same tones. Over. And over. And over. On every record.

And then comes YouTube videos by people with bad taste in metal on how to get the same tone everyone uses already. Over. And over. And over.

OH COOL ANOTHER TUBE SCREAMER 5150 V30 57 SATELLITE RADIO METAL TONE GLENN VERY INFORMATIVE MANY FACTS© AND SCIENCE ™

Then you go to a forum or Facebook group on metal guitar tones. And what does everyone want to talk about? The same fucking guitar tone. And what does everyone record clips of? You guessed it.
 
It seriously drives me nuts. It's a self fulfilling prophecy or feedback loop of everyone using the same gear and going for the same tones. Over. And over. And over. On every record.

And then comes YouTube videos by people with bad taste in metal on how to get the same tone everyone uses already. Over. And over. And over.

OH COOL ANOTHER TUBE SCREAMER 5150 V30 57 SATELLITE RADIO METAL TONE GLENN VERY INFORMATIVE MANY FACTS© AND SCIENCE ™

Then you go to a forum or Facebook group on metal guitar tones. And what does everyone want to talk about? The same fucking guitar tone. And what does everyone record clips of? You guessed it.
Guitar tone in metal is largely ruined these days thanks to the whole 5150 V30 57 combo.
 
Guitar tone in metal is largely ruined these days thanks to the whole 5150 V30 57 combo.
I remember vividly how the guy at the studio that we recorded at wanted me to use his 5150/V30 instead of my custom built hybrid amp with its custom designed speakers that actually replaced the amp that replaced my 5150 back then and an oversized Mesa V30. He insisted that I should use his stuff so that I would get that full tube tone whatever he meant by that. Long story short, I didn't give a fuck and used my stuff but mixed my E906 with the SM57. I would even more blame the Axe-FX because it didn't take long for everybody posting clips on the net to sound exactly the same. I really don't know why anybody would want that.
 
The boring sneap nuthugger emg/boost/v30/57 thing
I get why people may be fed up with those tones, or seeing that gear listed all the time but:

Glenn is not capable of coming up with any production or mix to the standard of Sneap, Richardson, Lewis, Bogren, Date, or anyone else. They all use a variety of gear and get different tones on different projects. He can try and use gear he thinks they use, or not, but it doesn't mean he produces work that sound anywhere close to guys on that level. When I say production, I don't just mean the engineering aspect, but also the overall quality of the songs and artist. As much as I don't really care for his tones, they are absolutely not the biggest thing holding him back. The fact that he doesn't take any responsibility for the quality of the band or songs, and instead decides to blame everyone and everything else is what does it. Perhaps if he could play guitar better, he'd be able to help guide his clients through making their guitars sound better. Its no coincidence that many producers just happen to be killer guitarists. The gear Glenn is or isn't using isn't whats holding him back - its the shitty attitude, stubbornness and contempt towards musicians (as in, the people who are paying him).

He uses a particular reverb based on what some other engineers also use, and yet Glenn has some of the worst sounding drum reverb I've ever heard - the gear has no real bearing on it, its what he is choosing to make it sound like, and ultimately his taste that decides.
 
No reason to waste the time watching Glenn's channel? But, which channels are good if one wants to improve a bit in mixing and mastering/production?
 
I wonder if there’s any Glenn Fricker types in the classical world where they recorded both a genuine Stradivarius violin and a $300 entry level student’s violin and then concocted a “vintage instruments are 100% hype” video after they didn’t sound all that different on the recording. Serious classical musicians wouldn’t fall for that shit so why should we?

Uh, they kinda did-

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/07/old-violins-versus-new/7383707/
 
I get why people may be fed up with those tones, or seeing that gear listed all the time but:

Glenn is not capable of coming up with any production or mix to the standard of Sneap, Richardson, Lewis, Bogren, Date, or anyone else. They all use a variety of gear and get different tones on different projects. He can try and use gear he thinks they use, or not, but it doesn't mean he produces work that sound anywhere close to guys on that level. When I say production, I don't just mean the engineering aspect, but also the overall quality of the songs and artist. As much as I don't really care for his tones, they are absolutely not the biggest thing holding him back. The fact that he doesn't take any responsibility for the quality of the band or songs, and instead decides to blame everyone and everything else is what does it. Perhaps if he could play guitar better, he'd be able to help guide his clients through making their guitars sound better. Its no coincidence that many producers just happen to be killer guitarists. The gear Glenn is or isn't using isn't whats holding him back - its the shitty attitude, stubbornness and contempt towards musicians (as in, the people who are paying him).

He uses a particular reverb based on what some other engineers also use, and yet Glenn has some of the worst sounding drum reverb I've ever heard - the gear has no real bearing on it, its what he is choosing to make it sound like, and ultimately his taste that decides.

Of course he isn't as good as his heros, but the gear IS relevant

Because it's the same fucking gear in every recording by garbage Modern Metal Producers®, and the same fucking gear used by Glenn Fricker in his amateur YouTube fedora Skeptic™ videos 😂


Same gear, same boring stupid fucking guitar tone.
 
Of course he isn't as good as his heros, but the gear IS relevant

Because it's the same fucking gear in every recording by garbage Modern Metal Producers®, and the same fucking gear used by Glenn Fricker in his amateur YouTube fedora Skeptic™ videos 😂


Same gear, same boring stupid fucking guitar tone.
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Most "guitarists" (in pure numbers) are bedroom hobbyists, and they aren't (and don't feel) justified in spending money on decent gear. So they go on YouTube, and Glenn Fricker gives them emotional validation for buying a slave labor Harley Benton.

"See! My AliExpress guitar is just as good! And anyone who says different isn't following Facts™, evidence ©, and Logic®!"
Oh also about Bentons. The reason why they get such a rave nowadays is because they send their best and most prestige pieces to influencers to play so the gullible morons end up buying their common stock and then wonder why their guitar blows donkey dick.

Glenn actually proved this in few of his videos. Surely you don't need to spend a dime on a guitar but at a certain price point you definitely get what you pay for.

Hence i opt for partscasters with quality parts.
 
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Oh also about Bentons. The reason why they get such a rave nowadays is because they send their best and most prestige pieces to influencers to play so the gullible morons end up buying their common stock and then wonder why their guitar blows donkey dick.

Glenn actually proved this in few of his videos. Surely you don't need to spend a dime on a guitar but at a certain price point you definitely get what you pay for.

Hence i opt for partscasters with quality parts.

I mostly have a combination of mid grade made in USA stuff and higher spec import (mostly Korean) guitars, but I do the partscaster thing too. Especially for bolt ons.

I'm a blue collar guy and can't really afford a giant collection of ultra nice vintage or custom shop guitars, or PRS/Nik Huber/Mayones whatever - I dump the cash into amps and cabs because thats where the money does the most work IMO.

But I'm also not an idiot, and I know what you're really paying a premium for is the QC and attention to detail.

Glenn has shilled multiple cheap import brands and constantly shits on expensive ones like Gibson, PRS, etc.

I guess he truly can't tell the difference because he sucks too much ass at guitar.
 
While they will never be obsolete, my shit Randall RG sounds amazing for being solid state.
Probably sounds better than that Orange, and its far from shit. That was back in the days when solid state wanted to sound like solid state and they didn't want to sound like something they aren't (tube amps). They were really on to something with those amps,
 
Probably sounds better than that Orange, and its far from shit. That was back in the days when solid state wanted to sound like solid state and they didn't want to sound like something they aren't (tube amps). They were really on to something with those amps,
Neal Schon and Vivian Campbell used RGs back in the 80s and they had an amazing tone.
 
You know what sounds good? Tubes. You know what also sounds good? A lot of modern SS amps and modeling units. You know what sounds GREAT? Having all the ewetubz gear prophets that are just paid to vomit personal opinions on stuff disappear. When I watch an online gear demo (and that's very few), I tune out what they are saying and try and just listen to the tones for my own opinion.
Save for players starting out, most of us know what we like and what works for our playing or band applications.
When I'm looking for reviews or opinions on gear, I search forums and read what the everyday player thinks. Yes, it's all subjective, but at least I feel like it might be a better representaion and not some internet sales guy.
Guess what I'm saying is play what you want and stop giving those guys attention.
Full disclaimer: I didn't read the entire thread. I just jumped around so if this doesn't make sense to the thread, feel free to tell me fuck off :cool:
 
glenn, i don't know how or why anyone would listen to him

this is already an absurd thread so i know it's dead if i come in and say anythiing

#anything
 
I think at some point tube amps will be a very niche market. We may be there already? Kind of like records, doesn't matter that CDs don't sound as good, they are clearer and easier.... hipsters frequent record stores still, but the masses do not. I think that is the tube amp future, sadly.

Glen reminds of Lewis Black, just screaming at me all the time but not funny
 
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