Twin Jet Crossroads

[se7en]

Dude, I have owned them all and many other amps. for me the Uber rev green and Rev2 is the meanest brutal massive amp ever PERIOD.

Hey, whatever blows your skirt up when you're playing a heavy riff as if to say you've got the biggest dick in the room.

Don't waste your time responding to his posts. He has no idea what he's talking about. He starts and responds to threads just to let everyone know he has the most evil ubers ever made that bogner handwired himself.
He's an over enthusiastic fanboy that believes all the shit he's read on the forums and built his rig around it.

I've picked up on that. Hence my comment. Doesn't sound like a player to me, just a fanboy who buys his own bullshit and tries to sell others on it every chance he gets. If somebody said that ________ amp was the most brutal, he'd get all insecure and defend his amp like a little kid arguing over which Power Ranger is the best.

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

anytime someone makes an absolute statement about any piece of gear (this is the best ______, it's the most brutal amp ever, no other mfg's compare to this _____) you can tell they like what they have but don't grasp the fact that not everyone is the same. In reality, tone is personal taste - I do like his passion for the Uberschall amp though - it's certainly unique. I've had the Original incarnation, 3-4 Rev Blues, and two Twin Jets...so I'd say I know a little bit of what I speak...but hey - this is the internet everyone else are experts, the guy on the other end doesn't know jack

 

[Adleneknot]

I'm glad that you guys know what you are talking about. That forum is full of ass holes fags.

 

[sjk]

Dont Agree that the TJ has a massive low end. try the Rev2 with JJ KT77 you will understand the real massiveness lol

If you are willing to try something other than a bogner (and maybe you have) you should check out a Diezel Herbert if you want a massive brutal low end...it has it as well!

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

Diezel Dmoll also has huge lows, Herbert is a super fun amp to play - but i think he's endorsed by Bogner

 

[Adleneknot]

Bro, why you acting like that? is this you the nice guy I used to talk to?

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

I'm just giving you a hard time - we know you're die hard Bogner Loyalist
I think you had a DMoll - which is why I made that comment

I love Ubers too - hence my id man,

 

[RJF]

Dude, I have owned them all and many other amps. for me the Uber rev green and Rev2 is the meanest brutal massive amp ever PERIOD.

This may be an older thread, but I just found it and can't leave it alone since I'm also tired of his fan boy-ism.

What you should do, is marry your rev 2. Then have it modded. Drill a big hole in the chassis and hard mount in a "flesh light." Then you can make sweet love to your precious rev 2 all night every night and tell it how it's got the biggest tightest bottom of them all and how you love it.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I'd love to, but Reinhold doesn't make the Rev. 2 anymore...I'm sure it's a nice amp, but I guess it's not worth his while to produce them anymore. Ultimately, I prefer a more open sounding amp with less compression, so I don't think it'd be my thing.

Hey Zack I had a Rev 2 and imo the TJ tracks faster and will do the best in a band mix, followed by the Rev Blue and the Rev 2 last in that regard.

The Rev 2 does have the deepest low end of the revisions but it's also the darkest and as a result gets lost the most easily in a band context. I'm not saying you can't make one work in a band but it is the trickiest, just imo. And good luck if you are playing with a 2nd guitarist who has a brighter, cutting amp...

They do record awesome though, so each revision has it's strengths and weaknesses imo.

I boosted my Rev 2 with a Bad Monkey.

I really don't understand the way some fanboys act as if their whole egos are wrapped up in an amp they have.

 

[se7en]

Generally, people like what they have - I get that, but the constant fanboyism is only self-serving. The Twin Jet is a natural evolution to me. Tighter, holds together at volume with more clarity. JCM 800'ish on Channel 1. The 150 watt power section and seperate power amp controls really let you dial in the sizzle and thump.

 

[leib10]

I've been playing the Ubers at high volume (finally moved into the house with the wife). The Twin Jet had to be completely redialed in, as it sounded harsh with the settings I was using. The Rev 2 sounds awesome as usual.

 

[Robby G]

I have to say that after doing a little recording on some unfinished songs that the Twin Jet records like a freakin champ. It never lets me down recording. Sounds huge and just sounds Good!!
My Audio Technica 4047 through a UA 6176 in front of Mesa Cab Plugged into Twin Jet

 

[se7en]

I have to say that after doing a little recording on some unfinished songs that the Twin Jet records like a freakin champ. It never lets me down recording. Sounds huge and just sounds Good!!
My Audio Technica 4047 through a UA 6176 in front of Mesa Cab Plugged into Twin Jet

Sounds like a good chain. How do you like the UA 6176? Sort of a clean-ish preamp? I was recording the Twin Jet yesterday and it never fails to amaze me how well it tracks. That thing is just massive, yet articulate without any mud. I use a Neve clone to record with mine, but it still sounds amazing without it.

 

[Robby G]

6176 is tube and can be tubey clean but it can be a bit colored. I also run it through the 1176 compressor and that does a bit of magic too!

 

[se7en]

Gotcha. Sounds like a great channel strip. I just received a Warm Audio WA76 compressor (1176 clone) today. Looking forward to what it can do for my guitars/vocals.

 

[Ventura]

101b will never be as massive or aggressive as the Twin Jet. Maybe just buy a clean amp and a/b them

+1 Uber has its own voice.
Shiva does get heavier, IMHO, than the 101B does, and it does have a sparklier clean than the 101B, but it's no match for the Uber(s) in the crushing department. In fact, there are very few amps out there that have the moxy like that of a finely tuned Uberschall

Peace,
Mojo

 

[Ventura]

Dude, I have owned them all and many other amps. for me the Uber rev green and Rev2 is the meanest brutal massive amp ever PERIOD.

Hey, whatever blows your skirt up when you're playing a heavy riff as if to say you've got the biggest dick in the room.

Don't waste your time responding to his posts. He has no idea what he's talking about. He starts and responds to threads just to let everyone know he has the most evil ubers ever made that bogner handwired himself.
He's an over enthusiastic fanboy that believes all the shit he's read on the forums and built his rig around it.

I've picked up on that. Hence my comment. Doesn't sound like a player to me, just a fanboy who buys his own bullshit and tries to sell others on it every chance he gets. If somebody said that ________ amp was the most brutal, he'd get all insecure and defend his amp like a little kid arguing over which Power Ranger is the best.

Not to piss on the parade, but I've done some deals with this cat, kept in touch with this cat, seen his arsenal of Ubers come, go, grow, let go, etc., and lemme tell ya, Adleneknot's had a lot more experience with practically every Uber out there than many of us combined. Even some of the rarist early models.

Ya, he's a fanboi, but so am I about a lot of other shit. Don't dis the dude for speaking his mind about amps he's passionate about - like I said, he's not living in momma's basement basing his knowledge on YT clips and frothing with his solid state 15W Traynor and a made-in-china ResPawl, he actually does know Ubers.

And for the record - so do I.

Peace,
Mo

 

[se7en]

Sorry Mo, but this guy gushing about the "Uberschall green or the Rev2!!!! the Ultimate amp brotha!!!!" does little to help out the OP. Speaking in absolutes shows a high degree of bias. "The Uber rev green and Rev2 is the meanest brutal massive amp ever PERIOD." doesn't do much to help the OP either. Trying to derail the thread for one's own agenda is not cool with me (and apparently a few others). If you want to plug your favorite amp you should do it on your own thread or least make it pertinent to the OP's concerns. For instance: "I know you were looking at the 101b, but if you still want to go the Uberschall route, the Rev. Green and Rev. 2 have a clean channel and a killer gain channel. I like them over the other Ubers...just my 2 cents". This would show some degree of objectiveness and would resonate a little more with the OP's plight.

 

[Ventura]

Sorry Mo, but this guy gushing about the "Uberschall green or the Rev2!!!! the Ultimate amp brotha!!!!" does little to help out the OP. Speaking in absolutes shows a high degree of bias. "The Uber rev green and Rev2 is the meanest brutal massive amp ever PERIOD." doesn't do much to help the OP either. Trying to derail the thread for one's own agenda is not cool with me (and apparently a few others). If you want to plug your favorite amp you should do it on your own thread or least make it pertinent to the OP's concerns. For instance: "I know you were looking at the 101b, but if you still want to go the Uberschall route, the Rev. Green and Rev. 2 have a clean channel and a killer gain channel. I like them over the other Ubers...just my 2 cents". This would show some degree of objectiveness and would resonate a little more with the OP's plight.

Excellent retort.

And 100% factual and truthful.

Good angle of approach, and no compromise - well spoken, Sir se7en

You're both in my good books, absolutely. I just didn't want anyone think Adlene knew shit about Ubers. But you're correct, objectivity is the key here, albeit sometimes hard to surmise when one's so passionate about their "Holy Graile" tone maker

PMA Cats!! Positive Mental Attitude!! Let it prevail
Mojo

 

[leib10]

I'll admit (and it's probably pretty obvious) that I'm an Uber fanboy myself, and haven't had as much experience on other amps. However, it does get a bit annoying when he prattles on about how they are the best amps, bar none, and that anything else is inferior.

I think they are great amps, but they are not without their disadvantages (no MIDI capability, somewhat limited versatility compared to other amps, cleans aren't that great, no stock bias switches, the ohm selector sucks, many users don't like the FX loop, the Rev 2 does not have external bias points or pot, the low end and highs can get a bit excessive and out of control if not properly dialed in, some have had issues with them cutting in a mix or find them too compressed, etc.). In other words, there are several issues that would make the Uberschall (in all of its iterations) more versatile and user-friendly.