Unpopular Rigpinions V2

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Mesa Rectifiers wouldn't be nearly as popular if it weren't for trash ass nu-metal bands (who usually had shitty tone) using them in their heyday.
 
Racerxrated said:
One thing I wonder is, the Nitros you own are all Custom Shop Charvels? I wonder if my 08/09 ProMods, if refinished in Nitro would compare. They are nice and resonant; tone wise pale a little to the 84 Charvel I traded you but not that far off. My 08/09s though are damn near mint; maybe I can find a 'slightly beat' 08/09 and send it out for a Nitro refin; and compare.
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Almost all my keeper guitars have a Nitro finish (not just the 2 Charvel's). I've got 16 guitars at the moment with Nitro (my 4 vintage Gibsons, 2 McInturff's, 2 Charvel's, 2 Novo's, Ronin, Riggio, Dean Gordon and a few others). I have thought actually about how the '84 and white Schecter would compare if Nitro. They have good things going for them tonally (84 has that growl, density from being heavy and vintage rawness), but otherwise imo pales to my aged nitros. Has nowhere near the detail, breathe, less 3D/flatter. Lots of guitars use Nitro, just sadly many of these famous brands don't use it typically (Charvel, Suhr, Tom Anderson, PRS, Mayones, Carvin, etc)

I asked a few guys and they all said it would be at least $500 (probably more) to get a Nitro re-fin on those guitars, but maybe I'll suck it up and try one day. I'd also be curious because I'm not sure if the secret to those Charvel's are the nitro or other things like quality of the wood or who knows what. Nitro isn't automatically gonna make a guitar great. Plenty of nitro guitars I've sold and thought weren't great. I still though just don't think it should acceptable that a guitar over $2K uses poly over nitro. It's imo either cutting corners or that particularly luthier just isn't making tone a priority in his builds, which imo is discouraging. I mean really how can you be a musical instrument maker that isn't making tone the most important factor. Crazy if you ask me. I don't buy guitars to look at them or admire how sleek the neck feels, but I guess that seems to be what more customers nitpick about sadly
 
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-Mahogany and maple on one side, Swamp ash and maple on the other. In the hands of competent players = 1 point for team tonewoods.
-It is not just the frequency response but the attack and transient shape and feel a different type of wood could contribute to the overall character of the guitar.
-Some players just bang out the note and it is what it is. Some players try hard to articulate what they are playing.
-Springy out of tune vibratos and bends are never cool.
-9 gauge strings are too wobbly even at standard tuning.
-I've been having more fun with Amplitube 5 than with my Kemper or Marshalls.
 
Monkey Man said:
Never listened to an "unplugged" album or concert video, ever. When I see the word "unplugged" I run a mile.

Bob Dylan is 100% unlistenable to me. I've tried but never lasted more than a few seconds. Like sex, really. :doh:

Master of Puppets sounded spectacular and is still my fave Metallica album.

Grunge does my head in and I blame it for initiating the downward spiral of pop music.

Mesa has balls but lacks mojo whereas Marshall has it.

I absolutely love this thread and the V1 as well. OK, this is probably a popular opinion, but the thread deserves it.


Agreed 100%!


That's me mate. :LOL:
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Bob Dylan is horrible. Everyone I know that likes him just likes him for his lyrics, but strip that away and just listen to purely the musical content (melodies, riffs, harmony, rhythm, counterpoint, etc) and he's a a zero in my book with a terrible voice to boot

My favorite Metallica album is by far And Justice For All, but Master of Puppets would be my 2nd favorite
 
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PatF said:
-Mahogany and maple on one side, Swamp ash and maple on the other. In the hands of competent players = 1 point for team tonewoods.
-It is not just the frequency response but the attack and transient shape and feel a different type of wood could contribute to the overall character of the guitar.
-Some players just bang out the note and it is what it is. Some players try hard to articulate what they are playing.
-Springy out of tune vibratos and bends are never cool.
-9 gauge strings are too wobbly even at standard tuning.
-I've been having more fun with Amplitube 5 than with my Kemper or Marshalls.
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I would also add (maybe you already meant this, but I misunderstood) that different tone woods have different textures to the notes. For example good mahogany tends to have that great growl on power chords, while other woods like maple or rosewood tend to be smoother on chords. Rosewood body guitars can sound almost piano like for cleans from their quality of tone
 
Chubbs said:
Too many people try to become their favorite player instead of being themselves

Buy a modeler if you want bedroom volumes

Modern gutiarists lack "fuck you" energy and it shows.
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I think that's partly from the push for players today to be so technically precise and polished that they focus on that and often lose the raw emotion and energy
 
My cheap Schecter C1+ and MIM Strat have lots of resonance unplugged and very nice frets and hardware IMO.
My cheap Schecter C1+ and MIM Strat had pretty bad humbuckers so they were replaced.

Expensive boutique pedals do not make much sense to me. Anything over say $150 for a pedal starts to get into the ridiculous territory.

My $50 Digitech Bad Monkey suits me fine
My $50 Danelectro EQ suited me fine
My $90 TC Electronic Mimiq pedal is the best invention in quite awhile

I can hear differences in tubes, although subtle.

Some forumites do an awful lot of talking and debating and flipping and have zero clips to show for it.
 
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unpopular opinions you say? here we go:


-having the wrong tubes will make you sell an amp, especially the wrong power tubes.

-having the wrong cab will make you sell an amp.

- slant cabs sound better than straight cabs and oversize cabs will make you become an rt all star flipper of heads.

-“mids” are not what “cuts”. what cuts is highs and presence.

- the reason digital, including irs, sounds bad is due to sample rates above 44.1kHz and bit depth rates above 16bit. the human ear cannot handle more “definition” than that.

-a tube head plugged into a bugera ps1 attenuator will deliver a better recording sound using the line out than any other much more expensive “reactive” loads. assuming you are running it into a 44.1kHz, 16 bit ir. (see above) the ir loader must be also set at the lowest bit rate possible.

-no bass amp sim sounds better than recording the bass direct into the daw with no plugins.

- low impedance cables make a huge difference.

- the emg 81 is the king of pickups

- widening the nut and bridge slots so the strings slides freely as you tune has a huge impact on tone.

-guitar strap locks negatively affect tone. the remedy is to use those rubbery things

- “creeping death” does not need to be played ever again. by anyone, including Metallica.
 
People talk about their gear being the “best”’are only stating that because they want it to hold value when they go to sell

Also who needs more than 1 or 2 of the same amp, honestly
 
acalaf said:
unpopular opinions you say? here we go:


-having the wrong tubes will make you sell an amp, especially the wrong power tubes.

-having the wrong cab will make you sell an amp.

- slant cabs sound better than straight cabs and oversize cabs will make you become an rt all star flipper of heads.

-“mids” are not what “cuts”. what cuts is highs and presence.

- the reason digital, including irs, sounds bad is due to sample rates above 44.1kHz and bit depth rates above 16bit. the human ear cannot handle more “definition” than that.

-a tube head plugged into a bugera ps1 attenuator will deliver a better recording sound using the line out than any other much more expensive “reactive” loads. assuming you are running it into a 44.1kHz, 16 bit ir. (see above) the ir loader must be also set at the lowest bit rate possible.

-no bass amp sim sounds better than recording the bass direct into the daw with no plugins.

- low impedance cables make a huge difference.

- the emg 81 is the king of pickups

- widening the nut and bridge slots so the strings slides freely as you tune has a huge impact on tone.

-guitar strap locks negatively affect tone. the remedy is to use those rubbery things

- “creeping death” does not need to be played ever again. by anyone, including Metallica.
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Weirdo
 
acalaf said:
-guitar strap locks negatively affect tone. the remedy is to use those rubbery things
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Psh everyone knows for the best tone you need to remove the strap buttons/screws completely
 
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