Well thanks for nothing, this fucking sucks.

[NVCreations]

I agree with you to a point..but you know what? Even when he was banned, every so often a thread would pop up from people still posting here about what carl said on the gear page, or a clip he posted on another page or this or that...seems like even when he WASN'T around, he was still getting brought up in here from time to time...

People still talk about the holocaust, but that doesn’t mean they want to endure it again.

 

[shreder75]

I agree with you to a point..but you know what? Even when he was banned, every so often a thread would pop up from people still posting here about what carl said on the gear page, or a clip he posted on another page or this or that...seems like even when he WASN'T around, he was still getting brought up in here from time to time...

People still talk about the holocaust, but that doesn’t mean they want to endure it again.

dude, do I really need to point out the differences between a major historical atrocity like the holcaust and a member on a message board who just happens to rub some people the wrong way? lol

 

[defpearlpilot]

While true, if no one gave him attention, he'd give it up. Think "solitary confinement" and you get where I'm going with this.


Carl never attacks me, and I don't give a shit about him or what other people think about him, and outside of a few comments here or there in regards to the whole mess, I'm sure he couldn't give two shits about me either. I'm sure this is true for 99.999% of people on the internet. There are a couple of people who get wrapped up in an online "feud" and honestly, all it takes is for one person to just not give a shit, and it don't matter...

Dude, I don't know how often we have to go in circles with this. Let's just say that I *vehemently* disagree with you on this. Carl may not have attacked you but have you ever disagreed with him? He's attacked me for no reason. He's attacked countless others. Just wait until you get on his radar.

We just disagree on this and let's leave it at that.

 

[NVCreations]

I agree with you to a point..but you know what? Even when he was banned, every so often a thread would pop up from people still posting here about what carl said on the gear page, or a clip he posted on another page or this or that...seems like even when he WASN'T around, he was still getting brought up in here from time to time...

People still talk about the holocaust, but that doesn’t mean they want to endure it again.

dude, do I really need to point out the differences between a major historical atrocity like the holcaust and a member on a message board who just happens to rub some people the wrong way? lol

if thats all you got from that analogy, I fucking fear for your future.

 

[defpearlpilot]

It pains me to say this because I'm sure I know and otherwise respect some of the members on that site, but that is some of the most psychopathic, childish BS I've ever seen. That blows my mind...

While I think Carl is the biggest hemoroid in the anal cavity of humanity I completely agree that the people who started that forum and continue to perpetuate it really need to have thier head examined. Like you I probably know some people over but thats some really really immature bullshit and they need to grow the fuck up.

BTW Carl just leave, no one wants you here and know one cares about you, your playing, or fucking gear. I just wish CHris would ban you until the new owner starts running things and makes the decision. You and Kage ruined this place and dont give me its Chirs's fault or Kage's fault blah blah blah........ you two are grown men..... act like it for crying out loud.

OK had to ge that off my chest.

Agreed. That forum should be shutdown.

 

[cloudnine]

If I win, Ill sink the ship

Yeah, that's about it.

 

[shreder75]

dude, do I really need to point out the differences between a major historical atrocity like the holcaust and a member on a message board who just happens to rub some people the wrong way? lol

if thats all you got from that analogy, I fucking fear for your future.[/quote]

your analogy is horrible, dude. You can fear for my future all you want, but your argument is a weak one =)

 

[NVCreations]

dude, do I really need to point out the differences between a major historical atrocity like the holcaust and a member on a message board who just happens to rub some people the wrong way? lol

if thats all you got from that analogy, I fucking fear for your future.

your analogy is horrible, dude. You can fear for my future all you want, but your argument is a weak one =)[/quote]


well since I am bored, and I know you wont get it any other way...

The analogy, not an arguement as you state, was showing that people discuss missfortune or things that are bad after they happen. Just because they do that, doesnt mean that they want to endure whatever it was all over again. You follow yet?

 

[kannibul]

While true, if no one gave him attention, he'd give it up. Think "solitary confinement" and you get where I'm going with this.


Carl never attacks me, and I don't give a shit about him or what other people think about him, and outside of a few comments here or there in regards to the whole mess, I'm sure he couldn't give two shits about me either. I'm sure this is true for 99.999% of people on the internet. There are a couple of people who get wrapped up in an online "feud" and honestly, all it takes is for one person to just not give a shit, and it don't matter...

Dude, I don't know how often we have to go in circles with this. Let's just say that I *vehemently* disagree with you on this. Carl may not have attacked you but have you ever disagreed with him? He's attacked me for no reason. He's attacked countless others. Just wait until you get on his radar.

We just disagree on this and let's leave it at that.

Why does it matter if he attacks you or anyone else, in the GRAND scheme of things?

I mean the majority of the problem is that people are compelled to try and defend themselves - if everyone knows a person has the internet equivalent of Tourettes...then do you REALLY have to defend yourself from their spewage of profanities and racist comments?

The internet isn't divorce court where you have to fend off all the accusations from your soon to be ex-wife...

 

[shreder75]

dude, do I really need to point out the differences between a major historical atrocity like the holcaust and a member on a message board who just happens to rub some people the wrong way? lol

if thats all you got from that analogy, I fucking fear for your future.

your analogy is horrible, dude. You can fear for my future all you want, but your argument is a weak one =)

well since I am bored, and I know you wont get it any other way...

The analogy, not an arguement as you state, was showing that people discuss missfortune or things that are bad after they happen. Just because they do that, doesnt mean that they want to endure whatever it was all over again. You follow yet?[/quote]

oh..I totally follow. And your analogy still sucks. It's like comparing stepping on an ant hill to the Hiroshima bomb. Do YOU follow yet?

Actually comparing this internet drama which really has no lasting effects on anbody to something like the Holocaust is an insult to Holocaust survivors.

 

[kannibul]

well since I am bored, and I know you wont get it any other way...

The analogy, not an arguement as you state, was showing that people discuss missfortune or things that are bad after they happen. Just because they do that, doesnt mean that they want to endure whatever it was all over again. You follow yet?

The primary difference is that people bring up NEW shit posted elsewhere, shit that really doesn't matta.

Hell, just the fact that sucks forum exists, is testament to the level of OCD involved. I mean come on - get over it...live your own life and stop trying to figure out some fuckhead on the internet who has nothing to lose by stating whatever the fuck they want...

Everyone will realize soon enough that they are just a fuckhead...and what they say has no weight...

 

[NVCreations]

oh..I totally follow. And your analogy still sucks. It's like comparing stepping on an ant hill to the Hiroshima bomb. Do YOU follow yet?

Actually comparing this internet drama which really has no lasting effects on anbody to something like the Holocaust is an insult to Holocaust survivors.

wow time to go wash the sand out of your vagina. are you seriously THAT simple? do you honestly believe, that for one second, that I am equating the mass genocide that was the holocaust, to the pathetic existance that is carl? Honestly? If so, you need step back, really fucking far back from the computer, and take a good hard look at yourself and ask yourself why you take everything so damn seriously, with out even for a second processing information as tongue-in-cheek, but instead for face value.

 

[NVCreations]

no matter what those childish Internet bullies tell you.

Very well crafted and executed. Way to be a representative of how people should act!

 

[shreder75]

oh..I totally follow. And your analogy still sucks. It's like comparing stepping on an ant hill to the Hiroshima bomb. Do YOU follow yet?

Actually comparing this internet drama which really has no lasting effects on anbody to something like the Holocaust is an insult to Holocaust survivors.

wow time to go wash the sand out of your vagina. are you seriously THAT simple? do you honestly believe, that for one second, that I am equating the mass genocide that was the holocaust, to the pathetic existance that is carl? Honestly? If so, you need step back, really fucking far back from the computer, and take a good hard look at yourself and ask yourself why you take everything so damn seriously, with out even for a second processing information as tongue-in-cheek, but instead for face value.

ah, so it was tongue in cheek now? Nice way to try and back peddal dude =) You sure didn't seem to play it off as tongue in cheek as you tried to explain your thinking for three posts prior to claming that it was tongue in cheek....lol

ok, fine..so it was tongue in cheek...in that case you also fail at humor and sarcasm=)

have a nice day

 

[NVCreations]

oh..I totally follow. And your analogy still sucks. It's like comparing stepping on an ant hill to the Hiroshima bomb. Do YOU follow yet?

Actually comparing this internet drama which really has no lasting effects on anbody to something like the Holocaust is an insult to Holocaust survivors.

wow time to go wash the sand out of your vagina. are you seriously THAT simple? do you honestly believe, that for one second, that I am equating the mass genocide that was the holocaust, to the pathetic existance that is carl? Honestly? If so, you need step back, really fucking far back from the computer, and take a good hard look at yourself and ask yourself why you take everything so damn seriously, with out even for a second processing information as tongue-in-cheek, but instead for face value.

ah, so it was tongue in cheek now? Nice way to try and back peddal dude =) You sure didn't seem to play it off as tongue in cheek as you tried to explain your thinking for three posts prior to claming that it was tongue in cheek....lol

ok, fine..so it was tongue in cheek...in that case you also fail at humor and sarcasm=)

have a nice day

So I guess you just answered my question of "are you seriously THAT simple?" The answer, of course, being YES. Back peddal? Yeah youre right, I was actually equating the holocaust to what is happening here. You are fucking dense, have a wonderful day and dont forget to wear your helmet today!

 

[kannibul]

Wow, what a great set of examples, how two adults can go from having different perspectives, and add insults instead of remaining civil.

 

[shreder75]

Wow, what a great set of examples, how two adults can go from having different perspectives, and add insults instead of remaining civil.

he started it! lol

 

[shreder75]

Wow, what a great set of examples, how two adults can go from having different perspectives, and add insults instead of remaining civil.

he started it! lol

 

[defpearlpilot]

...Agreed. That forum should be shutdown.

A few posts back, you said " Kage was completely justified in what he did." Do you still feel that same way?

Relatively speaking, what was said on that forum is nothing compared to what Carl has said.

 

[Gainfreak]

...I completely agree that the people who started that forum and continue to perpetuate it really need to have thier head examined. Like you I probably know some people over but thats some really really immature bullshit and they need to grow the fuck up...

That's exactly what I was saying yesterday. They did that same stuff here on RT to get Carl wound up, just to get me to ban him. When I pointed out this was all just a game that I wasn't going to play, I got the blame for letting Carl back here in the first place.

Me letting Carl in had nothing to do with purposely disrespecting anyone on this board, no matter what those childish Internet bullies tell you. For the past however many years, all you heard about was how Carl's comments about their families never hurt them a bit. Now all of a sudden (because I'm not playing the game and banning Carl), these comments are the end of the world and I'm at fault.

They're in a mad psycho frenzy to "get back" at Carl. Here are a few posts on that bully message board that support what I'm saying (I only spent 5 minutes looking and I'm sure there are more

8/20/08 - "Carl is trying in vain to play some psychological BS that just doesnt fly with anyone with half a brain that can see right through his really lame attempts to unsettle me or anyone."

10/20/08 - "Meh, I have mixed feelings about [Carl being back on Rig-Talk]. On one hand, Im glad that they let him back on, Its too much fun to publically humiliate the lying loser pussy. On the other, its great to see him banned because despite what he says, he wants to be a part of something because hes banned from everywhere else."

10/22/08 - "Hes still [on Rig-Talk]... Not for long though..."

10/30/08 - "Hes at Rig Talk where hes generally ignored and laughed at, you know, the usual... He tries to talk shit in emails and PM's and its just laughable. again, nothing new."

So in October, it was no big deal that Carl was back here. Now that I see right through their games, it's a huge deal. lol... It's amazing to me that alot of people on RT haven't been paying enough attention to know this.

Chris, you always tout that you are a thinking man so forgive me if I don't buy you saying that you letting Carl back here wouldn't disrespect anyone here. There were plenty of people who showed that they didn't want him here and you just disregarded them. I never wanted him back here but never said anything because then Id be pelted with causing drama.

As far as my PM's they were meant to stay private. I never wanted anyone to post what was going on and I figured if I just left no one would know until at least a few months that I was even gone and by that time id probably cooled off. Im sorry that Scott got upset and posted his post but You were actually the one who posted something that I said in private.

Ive had people telling me that I used my clout to start a ruckus here...Please. How long have you guys known me?
The truth is that I got pissed off after reading your comment that you wanted to shake up this place and I personally believe that Carl should have never been let in PERIOD. How many times has he done this? How many times should we forgive? For fucksake Ive tried it burying the hatchet with him numerous times only to have him back stab me 2 days later! Kage and I even called him from NAMM to say hello when we thought that things were cool between us and not more then a few days after we came home he started shit with us again!! If you haven't noticed, as childish as I might have been with the flame wars, Lots of websites took notice and actually started banning him . Carl got away with murder for years and all it took is for some people to final say enough is enough to get people to open up there eyes.

Seriously Chris, Im offering an apology to you and everyone here right now. My hand is out to you and Im sorry. i never wanted this crap to escalate to this and if you think I did, you'd be wrong.

And before I leave, The Carly site came about when Carl was mouthing off at another site. Yes, That site is childish but I guess it was made to refute what Carl was saying on Mike V's site.

All the best

Ralph