Well thanks for nothing, this fucking sucks.

[Anonymous]

I hate when I throw a killer party at MY HOUSE and just have all these friends and friends of friends over. Then a couple of guys come to my party. And almost everyone really likes them. I mean they really like them a lot. They become very respected leaders and it's my party, not theirs. Their clips get worshipped and people fall all over themselves to compliment their playing. But HEY!! I PLAY GUITAR TOO!!!!! AND THIS IS MY PARTY. IT'S MY PARTY!

I'm missing your point? Can you explain what you are trying to say to an idiot like me? You're not implying that Chris and Bob are jealous of Ralph and Kage are ya?

Steve

Yes he is. With childlike behavior like this from this guy and add on top of that all the crap from Carl and Kage I understand why Bob and Chris are wanting to rid themselves of this place.

If this were my forum, i'd go Pol Pot on everyones ass just for the fun of it!

 

[Chubtone]

I dont blame them for trying to find somene else to take over this place.

I don't blame them either. When I typed my post above I didn't know Rig Talk was on ebay.

 

[Anonymous]

I hate when I throw a killer party at MY HOUSE and just have all these friends and friends of friends over. Then a couple of guys come to my party. And almost everyone really likes them. I mean they really like them a lot. They become very respected leaders and it's my party, not theirs. Their clips get worshipped and people fall all over themselves to compliment their playing. But HEY!! I PLAY GUITAR TOO!!!!! AND THIS IS MY PARTY. IT'S MY PARTY!

I'm missing your point? Can you explain what you are trying to say to an idiot like me? You're not implying that Chris and Bob are jealous of Ralph and Kage are ya?

Steve

Seems to me he is. With posts like this from this guy and add on top of that all the crap from Carl and Kage I understand why Bob and Chris are wanting to rid themselves of this place.

Just to be clear, I think Curt (cubtone) is a great guy and we've had great conversations here and in person. Based on this, I give him the benefit of the doubt on anything he says. I'd just like to understand his point is all...

Steve

 

[guitar_god123456]

i guess all you can say is....thanks for givings us an awesome forum for many years. but for fuck sake grow up and stop slamming each other!

 

[Chubtone]

I'm missing your point? Can you explain what you are trying to say to an idiot like me? You're not implying that Chris and Bob are jealous of Ralph and Kage are ya?

Steve

I'm not saying anything about Bob at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob rules!

Chris has written in the past that it was "well known" that he and Kage didn't like each other. Kage was quite surprised by this news from Chris. This was all on the forum for us to read but you guys may have missed the thread. It was a while ago. I don't think Chris was real enamored with how well-liked Kage and his close friend Ralph were on this forum. Who does Carl have an extreme dislike for? Who let Carl back in against Bob's better judgement? Who does Carl drive nuts? Mission accomplished maybe?

Or maybe I've been watching too many conspiracy flicks lately?

 

[Anonymous]

I'm missing your point? Can you explain what you are trying to say to an idiot like me? You're not implying that Chris and Bob are jealous of Ralph and Kage are ya?

Steve

I'm not saying anything about Bob at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob rules!

Chris has written in the past that it was "well known" that he and Kage didn't like each other. Kage was quite surprised by this news from Chris. This was all on the forum for us to read but you guys may have missed the thread. It was a while ago. I don't think Chris was real enamored with how well-liked Kage and his close friend Ralph were on this forum. Who does Carl have an extreme dislike for? Who let Carl back in against Bob's better judgement? Who does Carl drive nuts? Mission accomplished maybe?

Or maybe I've been watching too many conspiracy flicks lately?

I certainly missed that thread, however, based on my direct, in person interaction with Chris, I don't believe that he brought back Carl to drive Kage and Ralph away. I also don't think he would be in the least bit jealous of either of them.

Steve

 

[Chubtone]

Just to be clear, I think Curt (cubtone) is a great guy and we've had great conversations here and in person. Based on this, I give him the benefit of the doubt on anything he says. I'd just like to understand his point is all...

Steve

Thanks Steve. I'm not trying to start trouble at all. There was another thread that was apparently deleted early this morning before I woke up where I was a little more coherent.

 

[defpearlpilot]

I certainly missed that thread, however, based on my direct, in person interaction with Chris, I don't believe that he brought back Carl to drive Kage and Ralph away. I also don't think he would be in the least bit jealous of either of them.

Steve

Yeah, I agree. I really think that Thump wanted some excitement in the forums. He's got enough cred out there for all the clips he's posted.

 

[Zachman]

What's happening is that Gainfreak is sending PMs to Rig-Talk users slamming me. He's telling people that I clearly have no respect for the users of this site, which is totally false. He said he's leaving and it looks like many others will follow, all because Ralph, Kage, and Carl act like children bickering on a schoolyard.

Eh...

Chris,

Ralph is bailing, I think-- because you don't seem willing to acknowledge, that he hadn't said ANYTHING to Carl-- and did in fact--avoid him, and yet, you seem to lump Ralph in with a conspiracy theory to mess w/ Carl.

Add to that the he wants to continue to NOT deal with Carl, and you seem to want to embrace Carl's presence.

My $.02

 

[Chubtone]

I certainly missed that thread, however, based on my direct, in person interaction with Chris, I don't believe that he brought back Carl to drive Kage and Ralph away. I also don't think he would be in the least bit jealous of either of them.

Steve

OK, well I have never met Chris so I may very well be wrong. I just remembered that post from a long time ago with Chris saying he didn't like Kage and Kage being surprised by it. Either way, what I am doing isn't helping anything here so I will just shut up about it. I don't really know enough about the entire situation to comment definitively on it, though has that ever stopped anyone ever on any forum?

I like Chris too even though we go at it on every Rhoads thread. It's like clockwork but he's never disrespectful when arguing his point.

So I apologize for any small part I have played in this mess. But I assure you my role in any of this has been tiny and should not have been lumped in with Kage and Carls battle as a valid reason for dumping this place.

 

['63-Strat]

The only things this forum has gotten out of Carl being let back as far as things getting "stirred up" are threads like these. People baiting him, people complaining about him, and himself spewing the same hateful bs he's always done. Nothing positive has been "stirred up" at all. If that's preferable to Kage and Ralph being here, so be it. No question Kage can be a spaz to people on here too, (so can I) but Kage and Ralph are *not* comparable to Carl, Chris, that's ridiculous. This forum's identity has always been old-school HCAF'ers and if that goes, it would be a shame. I voiced my opinion on this in the original thread about letting Carl back I believe, no need to say more.

 

[Zachman]

Hey guys, I want you all to know that no matter what you see in PMs from Ralph and Kage right now, the truth is that I meant no disrespect to them or anyone else by letting Carl back in. I did think Carl would bring some excitement to this place since it's been very boring lately and yes, that happened. However, I didn't expect Ralph and Kage to basically trap Carl into throwing a fit, then expecting me to take their side and ban him. Sorry, but that's just not fair to anyone.

Once again Chris, you fail to see anything beyond your POV. Have I ever hidden my dislike of Carl? No one tried to trap carl into anything, I told you from day one that I would be on him like white on rice. You just cant seem to take any responsibility for YOUR actions. You lost bitching rights when you said that you brought him back to shake things up, you did, he did and then you bitch about it and lay the blame every except where it belongs. If you cant see the truth in any of that, then the problem is most definitely yours..

Bottomline, you willing let trash in here for fun. Call me crazy but If I have trash in my house, I throw it the hell out.

The truth is that Ralph, Kage, and Carl are all troublemakers and stirring all of this up on their own.

The truth is that once again, you refuse to take any accountability for your role in all of this.

Since I'm not bending over backwards and kissing Ralph and Kage's ass like they're used to from many others, they're now taking it out on me. I'm a big boy, though, so I can take it.

LMAOO!! If you were a big boy Chris, you would have acted like one long before this, no one looked for ass kissing so save the lame rebuttals for people who actually buy into them..

Anyway, no... I don't disrespect the members of this forum. It's been fantastic and I wouldn't do anything to purposely mess with anyone ANYMORE. I used to, but I've grown up a bit and now see just how ridiculous all this stuff is.

If any of that was true, you would have considered the shitbags history before you let him on instead of dissmissing it because YOU thought different. The world doesnt revolve around you Chris nor does it around me, the difference is that I consider what others think or feel...

I personally think they need a break from all this crap, but I kinda doubt they'll realize how ridiculous they look anytime soon.

Thats just too stupid( and funny to comment back , LOL!!!

So, it looks like once again I'll have tons of enemies out there on the web. I've worked hard to get away from that, but here we are again. If you've seen everything that's happened on this site and you truly think I'm an ass, so be it. We clearly have different opinions. But please don't just take Ralph and Kage's word for it.

Chris

Why so defensive Chris? Neither Ralph nor I have lied and have been very open about everything, anything said in a PM has been said publically and to you. Sure , all people are welcomed to their opinions but dont even try and insinuate that Ralphie and I have been anything less than honest..

Unlike carl, I wish you well, its too bad that things ended up like this.

Take care of you and yours..

Kage

No offense Kage, but, why do you feel that you need to have this grudge over Carl? Granted, some people "deserve" to have their ass beat for saying inappropriate stuff, or whatever, but, there (should) come a point to where you just figure it ain't worth it (short of meeting him in an alley), and the other person is probably getting off on the attention you give them...

Why not just let it go and ignore the fuck?

The one thing that it takes for evil to exist in the world, is for good people to stand by--in it's presence and do NOTHING.

 

[bravedude2]

 

[JTyson]

Wow, I knew things were getting pretty heated, and I hated to see it happen, but I did'int think it would lead to this. I always saw Bob and Thump as a calm voice of reason in the middle of all the bullshit. Most of the time, the ONLY calm voice of reason. I have stayed out of this becuse I Am sort of new here, I have no stake in this fight, And when it all first went down, I thought, "why would he let him back in?" But Thump said he was trying not to hold grudges anymore, and I appluad him for that. He did that knowing he would immidiatley come under fire for it. Sure, he was trying to stir things up, but he did what he thought was the right thing. I can understand Ralph Kage, and others being pissed that he was let back in, after seeing some of the things said about passed loved ones, where I live, we bury motherfuckers for that kind of shit. I dont really know the answer to this, it seems to be beyond fixing at this point, and people are jumping ship, I just wish that wasent the case. I know there are other forums out there, but I have visited them on occaision, and I always felt there was more freedom to be yourself here, without having to deal with the corksniffers. Thump, I have a world of respect for you, and I hate you were a pawn in a bad chess game, I would get sick of that too, at the same time, I have a few close friends that I would absolutley defend to the end of the earth, and these guys were doing that for each other. I have a great respect for that also. I really havent been in here long enough to develop any friendships like that, it takes time, but I would like to have the time to do that. So, where do we go from here? Does anybody have any idea whats gonna happen?

 

[JTyson]

Irocally, you'll find them at the carlygeetar forum

What they are doing to Chris is nothing new. They did this before with me and whoever else they get a hard-on for. They go behind your back like to sneeks. Im glad they are finally showing what they are to the masses.

Is that really appropriate? I mean, let them do whatever, and let people judge for themselves. Your post comes off a bit arrogant and, as someone else suggested, gloating.

+1 I totally agree

 

[Anonymous]

Wow, been gone for a few hours and the whole place is shutting down. Is this shit really over the Carl, Kage, and Ralph thing? If so then I for one think it fucking sucks. I came here to get away from the utter douchebag faggotry of the TGP and HCAF. This place has been very laid back about language and OT threads and most of the forumites here get along just fine. Anyway I hope whoever takes it over is as cool as Thump and Bob have been.

 

[JTyson]

Wow, been gone for a few hours and the whole place is shutting down. Is this shit really over the Carl, Kage, and Ralph thing? If so then I for one think it fucking sucks. I came here to get away from the utter douchebag faggotry of the TGP and HCAF. This place has been very laid back about language and OT threads and most of the forumites here get along just fine. Anyway I hope whoever takes it over is as cool as Thump and Bob have been.

me too

 

[ejecta]

Blame it on the two scumbag's PM crusade to undermine one of the owners here.

My God man grow up and let it go please.

 

[redrol]

Blame it on the two scumbag's PM crusade to undermine one of the owners here.

My God man grow up and let it go please.

I get the winning bid, dont bother registering

if you get the winning bid you will probably win an empty forum

 

[bds9487]

Blame it on the two scumbag's PM crusade to undermine one of the owners here.

My God man grow up and let it go please.

That's what Ralph and Kage were trying to tell you guys...it'll never happen...no matter how many phony apologies he makes. He's not capable of growing up.