Well thanks for nothing, this fucking sucks.

[King Guitar]

I am a former US Marine Combat Vet (0331 Machine Gunner) I would have no trouble stamping out Evil

Brad

 

[bds9487]

I am a former US Marine Combat Vet (0331 Machine Gunner) I would have no trouble stamping out Evil

Brad

Do you want Carl's address?

 

[GnR102385]

 

[Anonymous]

The one thing that it takes for evil to exist in the world, is for good people to stand by--in it's presence and do NOTHING.

While I consider this a bit melodramatic, I'll play along. It is WHAT you do in the face of alleged evil that says the most about a person (or people)... Ignoring alleged evil is not doing nothing, IF the evil goes away when ignored...

Steve

My solution is to stamp out the evil, not ignore it and allow it to flourish, like a Cancer.

The only thing that got stamped out here is this great place we love to hang out, unfortunately.

Steve

 

[King Crimson]

Here's a future view of Carl-Talk:

Sorry, Carl but this one is funny!

 

[King Crimson]

I'm not sure where I'll end up going if this place goes down the tubes.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

I'm not sure where I'll end up going if this place goes down the tubes.

What,some shithole pawn shop to bullshit with the bums out front?

 

[badger71]

If I see a samurai sword and a gimp...I'm out.

 

[Zachman]

The only thing that got stamped out here is this great place we love to hang out, unfortunately.

Steve

All because of a preventable solution, NOT implemented thoroughly ie. NOT granting access to Carl's douchebaggery. They initially stamped out the problem by banning him, BUT by allowing him chance after chance, they have apparently realized that unless you utterly take out the cancer, it spreads and can kill you. Voila... NO surprise to me and those of us, who called it from day one w/ Carla.

 

[Anonymous]

The only thing that got stamped out here is this great place we love to hang out, unfortunately.

Steve

All because of a preventable solution, NOT implemented thoroughly ie. NOT granting access to Carl's douchebaggery. They initially stamped out the problem by banning him, BUT by allowing him chance after chance, they have apparently realized that unless you utterly take out the cancer, it spreads and can kill you. Voila... NO surprise to me and those of us, who called it from day one w/ Carla.

Then I guess all of the baiting done AFTER the decision was made to reinstate him wasn't worth it, since the only winner in this seems to be Carl as he gets to gleefully fiddle while Rome burns. I'll also point out that if everyone baiting him just chose to ignore him instead, rig-talk could have continued thriving... This was never a democracy.

Steve

 

[Zachman]

The only thing that got stamped out here is this great place we love to hang out, unfortunately.

Steve

All because of a preventable solution, NOT implemented thoroughly ie. NOT granting access to Carl's douchebaggery. They initially stamped out the problem by banning him, BUT by allowing him chance after chance, they have apparently realized that unless you utterly take out the cancer, it spreads and can kill you. Voila... NO surprise to me and those of us, who called it from day one w/ Carla.

Then I guess all of the baiting done AFTER the decision was made to reinstate him wasn't worth it, since the only winner in this seems to be Carl as he gets to gleefully fiddle while Rome burns. I'll also point out that if everyone baiting him just chose to ignore him instead, rig-talk could have continued thriving... This was never a democracy.

Steve

I hear you-- 2 wrongs don't make a right, BUT-- Carl surely has proven to be as big a douche as some of us knew he was, and surprised others, who I guess- figured he deserved the benefit of the doubt.

Rig Talk could continue thriving, by simply banning Carl.

I own my forum, and like MY house I decide who is invited in, and what kind of behavior is acceptable while they're there, AND I wouldn't invite the devil and expect good results, you know....

 

[JTyson]

I am a former US Marine Combat Vet (0331 Machine Gunner) I would have no trouble stamping out Evil

Brad

I agree with steve, I have stayed out of the fire, and kinda watched from the sideline, But I have to say that now I can't help but have anamosity towards carl after seeing him run around here and already other threads, just to gloat and pour on the gasoline. I think there are a lot of positive people on here, those are the ones I like to hang with. I'm gonna have to get danyeo to show me the "ignore" function. But in reality, I dont think good people should have to put so much effort into keeping things real. It's not an asset to the community to have new people come in for the first time, and see that stuff becuse thier ignore button is not on. They just shrug thier shoulders, and go to the next forum. Who could blame them? BTW- Brad, my hats off to you as a vet, and as someone who has been here before and after, and is still considering taking the torch, I'm sure theres a lot more to it than we think - Jim

 

[defpearlpilot]

And Carl being his typical self has to run over the HCAF and start threads about this. See, his apology was a bucket full of bullshit as he goes right back to his typical dickbag ways.

From what I'm seeing, Carl = Troll Daddy.

Just ignore him, and he'll eventually pop...

What is it that you don't understand man? He doesn't just go away. He *always* comes back.

 

[Anonymous]

I hear you-- 2 wrongs don't make a right,

This was all I was really trying to get across. The baiting didn't produce the desired result and only hurt us as a community.

BUT-- Carl surely has proven to be as big a douche as some of us knew he was, and surprised others, who I guess- figured he deserved the benefit of the doubt.

Carl never had a chance because he was baited from minute one by a variety of people. There was no "forgive and forget" here. Perhaps rightfully so, but to the detriment of the community at large.

Rig Talk could continue thriving, by simply banning Carl.

But here's the thing. WE did not have any control over that. What we did have control over was the baiting/ignoring and I just think we went the wrong way to the detriment of ALL of us... Perhaps Carl should have stayed banned, but once again, this is not a democracy here...

I own my forum, and like MY house I decide who is invited in, and what kind of behavior is acceptable while they're there, AND I wouldn't invite the devil and expect good results, you know....

As is your prerogative. Chris exercised his prerogative as owner of this board in an effort (I believe) to not hold grudges and give a guy a chance and a variety of people would have none of that. Once again perhaps rightfully so, but to the detriment of all of us.

We all lost - except maybe Carl.

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

The two gay boys think they got clout. The big Kahuna was gonna
hammer" me. When that didnt work, the gay bros undermined Chris by PM'ing people to leave.
What a joke. I was on to these two fags years ago. Now you're seeing the two Pole Bros for what they really are.

i didnt win anything. Their actions are to blame. two bitches

 

[Anonymous]

i didnt win anything. Their actions are to blame. two bitches

I was talking figuratively, Carl. No one won anything - we all lost...

Steve

 

[jasonP]

The two gay boys think they got clout. The big Kahuna was gonna
hammer" me. When that didnt work, the gay bros undermined Chris by PM'ing people to leave.
What a joke. I was on to these two fags years ago. Now you're seeing the two Pole Bros for what they really are.

i didnt win anything. Their actions are to blame. two bitches

Hey Carl, I just want to say a big fuck you. Thanks for ruining this place for all of us. You god damn ass hole. What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[degenaro]

I hear you-- 2 wrongs don't make a right, BUT-- Carl surely has proven to be as big a douche as some of us knew he was, and surprised others, who I guess- figured he deserved the benefit of the doubt.

Rig Talk could continue thriving, by simply banning Carl.

I own my forum, and like MY house I decide who is invited in, and what kind of behavior is acceptable while they're there, AND I wouldn't invite the devil and expect good results, you know....

I see it the way Steve sees it. To me it's really simple, it's Bob's and Chris' house, their rules. The place is getting a fork stuck in it BECAUSE of the drama of today. No one can ever just leave a fuckig forum without a grand exit. I view Kage and Ralph as friends, but I do think that they were the final straw for Bob and Chris. I get why, and that is whole other story. But yeah, you don't dig their rules don't come to their house. You hang here and dislike some one that has been let back on. 3 viable options, try to get along, ignore, leave...the fucking mass PM I'm leaving shit...oh fuck it...not worth me getting bend out of shape over. This is disappointing on numerous levels. But fuck me, I would have tossed the place on ebay after the nonsense today as well.

Now, there aren't a whole lot of forums I think are worth hanging, this was one of them. And IT IS too bad what happened.
I've been thinking recently that spending as much time on line as we all do might really be a bad idea. Hell, I'll go find myself a porn forum now...

You know there are folks here that made it into my list of people that got me to the point where at one point wanted nothing more than a real physical confrontation at one point, but these days no matter how much resentment I still harbor I try to be civil to them. Because in the end it really is nothing more than words from behind a screen.

 

[Zachman]

The two gay boys think they got clout. The big Kahuna was gonna
hammer" me. When that didnt work, the gay bros undermined Chris by PM'ing people to leave.
What a joke. I was on to these two fags years ago. Now you're seeing the two Pole Bros for what they really are.

i didnt win anything. Their actions are to blame. two bitches

Hey Carl, I just want to say a big fuck you. Thanks for ruining this place for all of us. You god damn ass hole. What the hell is wrong with you?

Carl didn't ruin anything... NOT banning him for good, was the catalyst for it ALL

 

[jasonP]

The two gay boys think they got clout. The big Kahuna was gonna
hammer" me. When that didnt work, the gay bros undermined Chris by PM'ing people to leave.
What a joke. I was on to these two fags years ago. Now you're seeing the two Pole Bros for what they really are.

i didnt win anything. Their actions are to blame. two bitches

Hey Carl, I just want to say a big fuck you. Thanks for ruining this place for all of us. You god damn ass hole. What the hell is wrong with you?

fuck off. Pin this on the two fagboys. They didnt get their way, so they took their toys and went home.
They sent PMs to get members to leave.
Two scumbags.

Are you happy now?