What Did George Lynch Mean When He Said This? (Music Theory)

[Jayy]

RE: outside of the scale/key. Forget who said it but "There are no bad notes, just bad resolutions." When I'm learning a Django song there are so many notes that, when played slow while learning, sound like THE worst possible note. But he resolves it so quickly and perfectly that the 'bad' note suddenly became the perfect spice.

SRV is another that often played 'wrong' but somehow made it sound right.

I guess that's what TALENT will do for people like SRV or EVH. I guess that means I'm shit out of luck....

Not me man! I'm the most bad ass guitar player and biggest rock star in my living room

LOL. Yeah man, I hear ya. I'm a bad ass in my living room too.

 

[Jayy]

-SRV- stole the rhythm part of.. -(THE HENDRIX THEORY)-
-SRV was mortal & the copy never better than the original-

Yeah he was mortal. He even died a mortal (and tragic) death. He was one hell of a mortal on the guitar though. I never could understand his attack and technique and how he pulled it off. He played so forcefully and just beat the living shit out of his guitar, but made it sound good and powerful. If I try to play that way all I accomplish is a lot of noise, out of tune sounds, and broken strings. I can't attack that hard with my right hand and make anything sound decent.

 

[Red_Label]

-SRV- stole the rhythm part of.. -(THE HENDRIX THEORY)-
-SRV was mortal & the copy never better than the original-

Hendrix was one on the few true game changers.

SRV was a MACHINE.

Both were immortal in the world of rock guitar.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

SRV's sound check is better than alot of shows ive seen.

I got a CD from the 70's where SRV was playing the same music as the 80's & 90's.

He is the only one the ever did the Blues or the Stratocaster Justice IMO.

 

[Anonymous]

-I liked GEORGE best when he thout he sucked, typical, you
get caught up in a "contest" forget what got you there.
-THEORY- is just that, -a THEORY- no great -musician- ever used anyones elses theory, every single one of them had there own theory, we all have the same 12-notes to use, the combination's & scenario are very limited, then we limit ourselves even more with same ole standard scales, & as if we needed more restrictions, -CONVENTIONAL TUNING- as in EADGBE- check out some of the old -DELTA BLUES-tunings, its how Jimmy Page turned from thief, to original, to make those old blues songs Led Zeppelin was stealing sound "right", he had to use there tuning's-(DADADA is a blues tuning)-then he used middle eastern scales & tuning's-(he said he's been making up his own tuning's since the early 70's, and that he has finally!,. come up with the -PERFECT TUNING- but won't say what it is.)- -WTF- PAGE!!!!!

-do what you've always done, get what you've always gotten)-

Learning theory doesn't limit you. Completely the opposite. It gives you the understanding of why what you did by ear works. I can't see how understanding the language of music would limit anyone - it expands your horizons substantially...

Steve

 

[sg guy]

-SRV- stole the rhythm part of.. -(THE HENDRIX THEORY)-
-SRV was mortal & the copy never better than the original-

Yeah he was mortal. He even died a mortal (and tragic) death. He was one hell of a mortal on the guitar though. I never could understand his attack and technique and how he pulled it off. He played so forcefully and just beat the living shit out of his guitar, but made it sound good and powerful. If I try to play that way all I accomplish is a lot of noise, out of tune sounds, and broken strings. I can't attack that hard with my right hand and make anything sound decent.

-I hear ya, every time I play a STRAT it sounds like shit-(and I've owned 2)-it blows my mind to see some one wail on a-STRAT-squeezing out that unique voice, put it down & pick up a-LES PAUL-and immediately deliver that LP-GROWL-
-SRV-was one of the few that added -GIRTH- to a STRAT

 

[Red_Label]

SRV's sound check is better than alot of shows ive seen.

I got a CD from the 70's where SRV was playing the same music as the 80's & 90's.

He is the only one the ever did the Blues or the Stratocaster Justice IMO.

The blues I can agree with. I'm not a fan of the blues, but SRV made me want to listen.

The Strat on the other hand... Yngwie, Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, EVH (it's a Strat at its core), Dave Gilmour, Mark Knopfler, Uli Roth, Alan Holdsworth, etc haven't done the strat justice?

 

[sg guy]

-I liked GEORGE best when he thout he sucked, typical, you
get caught up in a "contest" forget what got you there.
-THEORY- is just that, -a THEORY- no great -musician- ever used anyones elses theory, every single one of them had there own theory, we all have the same 12-notes to use, the combination's & scenario are very limited, then we limit ourselves even more with same ole standard scales, & as if we needed more restrictions, -CONVENTIONAL TUNING- as in EADGBE- check out some of the old -DELTA BLUES-tunings, its how Jimmy Page turned from thief, to original, to make those old blues songs Led Zeppelin was stealing sound "right", he had to use there tuning's-(DADADA is a blues tuning)-then he used middle eastern scales & tuning's-(he said he's been making up his own tuning's since the early 70's, and that he has finally!,. come up with the -PERFECT TUNING- but won't say what it is.)- -WTF- PAGE!!!!!

-do what you've always done, get what you've always gotten)-

Learning theory doesn't limit you. Completely the opposite. It gives you the understanding of why what you did by ear works. I can't see how understanding the language of music would limit anyone - it expands your horizons substantially...

Steve

-ya mean like EDDIE said. " you have to know the rules, before you can break them"

-I was taught theory, read music, the language of music rule's, but just wanted to play GOD OF THUNDER, instead I was handed a -MEL BAY-(learn to play guitar)-BOOK #1-(in a series of books that never end)-then force fed -MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB-

-(ya pay for this, and they give you that)-Niel Young-

 

[Chester Nimitz]

SRV's sound check is better than alot of shows ive seen.

I got a CD from the 70's where SRV was playing the same music as the 80's & 90's.

He is the only one the ever did the Blues or the Stratocaster Justice IMO.

The blues I can agree with. I'm not a fan of the blues, but SRV made me want to listen.

The Strat on the other hand... Yngwie, Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, EVH (it's a Strat at its core), Dave Gilmour, Mark Knopfler, Uli Roth, Alan Holdsworth, etc haven't done the strat justice?

Gilmour recorded the lead on "The Wall" with a Les Paul. Knopfler is a Les Paul guy, Beck started on Les Pauls, Roth plays custom guitars, Eric Johnsons dirty Strat tone just doesn't do it although the playing is top notch. Holdsworth was a Carvin guy.

Yngwie is great seen him a couple but after one song of Neo Classical from him and im good, a 2 hour show and i was in note overload an hour & 50 minutes ago.

SRV made my buy "Couldn't stand the weather" i liked that so much i bought his whole catalog including collector stuff.

 

[Red_Label]

SRV's sound check is better than alot of shows ive seen.

I got a CD from the 70's where SRV was playing the same music as the 80's & 90's.

He is the only one the ever did the Blues or the Stratocaster Justice IMO.

The blues I can agree with. I'm not a fan of the blues, but SRV made me want to listen.

The Strat on the other hand... Yngwie, Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, EVH (it's a Strat at its core), Dave Gilmour, Mark Knopfler, Uli Roth, Alan Holdsworth, etc haven't done the strat justice?

Gilmour recorded the lead on "The Wall" with a Les Paul. Knopfler is a Les Paul guy, Beck started on Les Pauls, Roth plays custom guitars, Eric Johnsons dirty Strat tone just doesn't do it although the playing is top notch. Holdsworth was a Carvin guy.

Yngwie is great seen him a couple but after one song of Neo Classical from him and im good, a 2 hour show and i was in note overload an hour & 50 minutes ago.

SRV made my buy "Couldn't stand the weather" i liked that so much i bought his whole catalog including collector stuff.

Seriously? Knopfler was a strat guy before Brothers In Arms. Does Sultans of Swing sound like an LP to you? Gilmour and Beck ARE most definitely strat guys. Pull up every YouTube video you can of them throughout their careers and tell me that 90+ percent of them don't feature strats. Holdsworth was playing hotrod strats for decades before he ever touched or endorsed a Carvin. Whether or not Yngwie does much for you, he was a complete game changer and did it all on strats. I'm in LP mode currently, and the LP in stock configuration makes a better hard rock guitar than a strat in stock config. But there's no denying the strat's impact on rock music. I would argue that the three biggest game changers in rock guitar history were Jimi, Eddie, and Yngwie. All were strat guys.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Strat has Legendary status no doubt. My point was most those guys play Gibsons too cept fro maybe Yngwie.

Scalloped necks are awful & Malmsteen plays with .007's, id like to see him on my LP's with .011 to .056's.

The attack on Comfortably numb, short side of Amazing. Eric Johnson is in a class by himself.


Ive had Fenders love them for clean, couldn't bond in the end.

Ill take a 335 over a Strat anyday.

Charvels are the Strat style i like best.

 

[stratjacket]

Shapes was the way I learned to move anywhere on the fretboard. I posted this a few months ago:

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=187614#p2094518