Did Dave Friedman find the josé mods behind Van Halen 1 ?

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Hey guys,

there is a japanese named Takahiro Tamaya who has a blog about amps.

The interesting thing ? he is huge a Van halen fan and he seems to be friend with dave friedman and famous guitarists. he has a lot of posts about legendary amps like josé modded amps and he talks about secret gear used by legends and things like that.

Here is the post of his blog for july 20 2020 :

"The Joselified BE Mod amp is finally complete!

On Friday evening, I got a message from Dave, and I immediately jumped in my car and headed to the workshop.

“What exactly is Joselified?” I wondered excitedly as I arrived. Among the many amps sitting there, I spotted it right away. Just seeing the newly added push/pull knob was enough to knock me out (laughs).

It’s been two years since the Jose Project began, and during that time, many more Jose amps have been brought to Dave’s workshop for further research. He’s had the chance to study amps owned by Vai, Sykes, and Metallica, and even restored Toshi Yanagi’s 1968 Marshall Plexi. The incredible brown sound of that Eddie Mod had everyone in awe and became a hot topic of discussion.

Now, the result of all that research has finally come to life in the form of this brilliantly modified Marshall amp!"


Here is the original post from the blog :

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So apparently Dave Friedman had a josé project : the idea seemed to be to reverse engineer a lot of josé amps. One can easily think that he was trying to find what josé really did to evh amp to get the brown sound. Apparently it took the reverse engeneering of Vai, Sykes and Metallica and a lot of other josé amps to realise this.

According to takahiro tamaya, it was clearly the brown sound and many behind the scenes were in awe about the the mod.

Now if this was done in 2020 why haven't we got a brown sound amp yet ? Some will say it's the friedman BE. Perhaps it was.

however there seems to reasons to think otherwise. At the beginning of 2025 Dave announced in tone talk that he got josé's arredondo's arppoval to release josé amps. Which means that Dave was perhaps looking for the blessing of the josé family before getting serious. Or perhap he will release some vai and sykes josés and we will have to wait some other years until he also gets wolfgang's approval.

here is the blog address :

http://blog.musette-japan.com/_mtos5/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20&search=josé

for those saying this is bullshit musette is a japanese company specializing in the import and distribution of high-quality musical equipment, particularly guitar amplifiers and related gear. They serve as the official Japanese distributor for several renowned brands, including RJM Music Technology, known for their advanced MIDI controllers and switching systems.

What do you think of this story and possible theory ?

Did Dave Friedman found a way to get the brown sound from the reverse engeneering of vai, sykes and metallica's josé heads ?
 
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I will be honest. I didnt think there was a secret. Everyone does a jose, and i cannot stand jose saturation at least

I think many here are sick of tone secret evh threads for sure.

That said, when i saw friedman doing a jose amp in conjunction with family, i thought it interesting. I like his amps. I just seriously doubt they will be special
 
I will be honest. I didnt think there was a secret. Everyone does a jose, and i cannot stand jose saturation at least

I think many here are sick of tone secret evh threads for sure.

That said, when i saw friedman doing a jose amp in conjunction with family, i thought it interesting. I like his amps. I just seriously doubt they will be special
José didn't made the same mods for everyone. There are multiple josé mods and a we don't know most of them. The most common were parallel extra gain stages that's what most josé amp builders do. however he apparently also did some cascaded gain stages. There is also the voltacontrol that no one except dave and those who owned the amp know about. there is also those little things :


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those special thanks to josé arredondo being the first name when van halen was beginning to get famous is quite weird if he didn't mod ed's amp at all...
 
If you're still chasing this tone 50 years later, maybe it's not your amp that sucks.. Lol. It's nothing special. In 1978, yes. 2025... nope.
i challenge you to get those 2 tones reproduced without eq and mixing after recording :





there is a reason why milions of guitar players are still chasing the brown sound... because with a stock plexi marsall it's almost impossible. I even built a 68 plexi on daves values taken from ed's plexi and it doesn't do it even the suhr sl68 lacks distortion and sustain compared to the original thing. What many don't know is that before soldano, friedman and suhr saw the amp it was probably brought back to stock with the mods removed. Mike soldano who is the first to have seen it only saw it in 1990 which means around 12 years after the first album.

the amp has only 3 tubes and an extra gain stage. Perhaps a fet/transistor used as an extra triode, It also has an extra power cable ?
 
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Germino plexis if you ever saw their guts are not exactly stock. The filtering is very low and there are some subtle tricks done to them. I'm the one isn't a good example of this find me a germino playing running with the devil which has the same amount of sustain ed's got. The 2 stress test for van halen 1 brown sound are running with the devil and feel your love tonight those are the most difficult to emulate.
 
The Metallica Jose was stolen in Boston on their first east coast gigs so DF ain’t reverse engineering it from the ether. 🤣
 
The Metallica Jose was stolen in Boston on their first east coast gigs so DF ain’t reverse engineering it from the ether. 🤣
https://www.guitarworld.com/news/metallica-james-hetfield-modded-jose-arredondo-marshall-72-seasons

.... there are many josé heads and james hetlfield still uses one he got...



this is the biggest announcement in the guitar world yet. Friedman will release a new collection of amps based on josé builds and mods. he had many mods and many unique builds. His daughter gave dave her permission.
 
Germino plexis if you ever saw their guts are not exactly stock. The filtering is very low and there are some subtle tricks done to them. I'm the one isn't a good example of this find me a germino playing running with the devil which has the same amount of sustain ed's got. The 2 stress test for van halen 1 brown sound are running with the devil and feel your love tonight those are the most difficult to emulate.
So he provides what you asked for and then you say "that doesn't count"...? lol

Here he is using the Stealth.... and it still sounds like good old Edward. If you can't make it speak, you can't make it speak. The gear only gets you so far.
 
i challenge you to get those 2 tones reproduced without eq and mixing after recording :





there is a reason why milions of guitar players are still chasing the brown sound... because with a stock plexi marsall it's almost impossible. I even built a 68 plexi on daves values taken from ed's plexi and it doesn't do it even the suhr sl68 lacks distortion and sustain compared to the original thing. What many don't know is that before soldano, friedman and suhr saw the amp it was probably brought back to stock with the mods removed. Mike soldano who is the first to have seen it only saw it in 1990 which means around 12 years after the first album.

the amp has only 3 tubes and an extra gain stage. Perhaps a fet/transistor used as an extra triode, It also has an extra power cable ?

After getting a 72 50w that had a bunch on non original coupling caps etc, I decided to dive in the EVH 12000 series spec a little as I prepared to put the right chiclet caps, bright cap etc back in. What I found was, the V1B cathode resistor was not the normal value, and a fat cap was bypassing the V2A cathode resistor. After putting the right coupling caps in, changing the V1B cathode resistor, and adding the fat cap on V2A this 72 50 had an assload of gain that wasn't there before. Easily enough gain to cop VHI or II. Or Fair Warning. Now, there's more to the 12301 circuit than what I did, but just those few things I did surprised me a ton...and, as someone who used to believe Eds amp was modded to get that gain, now I believe it could easily have been totally stock but with some factory anomalies like I mentioned.

Now, If I had a pair of 1967 M20s to go with some JBL D120s then I'd be even closer....add a variac, and load the head down like has been rumored and there it is...add the echoplex too for more gain....
No Jose magic needed(although, he may have shown Ed how to get more gain by doing all these things).
 
i challenge you to get those 2 tones reproduced without eq and mixing after recording :





there is a reason why milions of guitar players are still chasing the brown sound... because with a stock plexi marsall it's almost impossible. I even built a 68 plexi on daves values taken from ed's plexi and it doesn't do it even the suhr sl68 lacks distortion and sustain compared to the original thing. What many don't know is that before soldano, friedman and suhr saw the amp it was probably brought back to stock with the mods removed. Mike soldano who is the first to have seen it only saw it in 1990 which means around 12 years after the first album.

the amp has only 3 tubes and an extra gain stage. Perhaps a fet/transistor used as an extra triode, It also has an extra power cable ?

Jesus, you can get that tone with a JCM 2000 and a few pedals. Quit tone simping already! 🤣
 
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