Fartin woke up from coma

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RaceU4her said:
The only thing similar but to a much lesser level recently would be “1985 guy” being brought up everywhere you look but that has died off for the moment thankfully, and I love 1985 guy lol
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I seem to be missing something. Can you elaborate on that “1985 guy” please?
 
Racerxrated said:
Unfortunately he went a bit too far in lifting others hard work....it's one thing to take Jose A's designs and copy/build off of, he's long since passed on. But active designs that the original designers are still selling? Nope. Sorry. As nice of a guy as Mike is, that's going too far in my opinion. Then, the China thing, and to top it off, that clown of a 'marketing' guy who used to be on here, Fortin hired him and that was the final straw for a lot of guys. Talk about alienating his prime buyers. Sheesh.
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That marketing dude that used to be on here, whoa, that guy was a madman. He could not help himself and responded to every post that even remotely shined a questionable light on fortin. His responses were offensive and aggressive. A marketing guy!?!? I think not. He was working in the margins spreading falsehoods and committing acts of subterfuge in the name of promoting fortin. His egregious behavior and wildly inappropriate comments were insane. I couldn’t believe fortin didn’t fire him after the first couple posts. Nope. It went on for many months and it grew worse with each response. His behavior grew more erratic as he devolved. It was quite clear he was descending into full blown madness. Only a total maniac or someone no longer in touch with reality would act like that. The fact that fortin kept him for so long after these wildly egregious incidents says volumes about him. Apparently he has no qualms “borrowing,” the intellectual property of others, might as well keep a lunatic on board also as he stomps out any remains of fortins once good reputation as a lord of circuitry. Well, more like a borrowed lord of circuitry.

Poor form fortin.
 
mooncobra said:
That marketing dude that used to be on here, whoa, that guy was a madman. He could not help himself and responded to every post that even remotely shined a questionable light on fortin. His responses were offensive and aggressive. A marketing guy!?!? I think not. He was working in the margins spreading falsehoods and committing acts of subterfuge in the name of promoting fortin. His egregious behavior and wildly inappropriate comments were insane. I couldn’t believe fortin didn’t fire him after the first couple posts. Nope. It went on for many months and it grew worse with each response. His behavior grew more erratic as he devolved. It was quite clear he was descending into full blown madness. Only a total maniac or someone no longer in touch with reality would act like that. The fact that fortin kept him for so long after these wildly egregious incidents says volumes about him. Apparently he has no qualms “borrowing,” the intellectual property of others, might as well keep a lunatic on board also as he stomps out any remains of fortins once good reputation as a lord of circuitry. Well, more like a borrowed lord of circuitry.

Poor form fortin.
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mooncobra said:
That marketing dude that used to be on here, whoa, that guy was a madman. He could not help himself and responded to every post that even remotely shined a questionable light on fortin. His responses were offensive and aggressive. A marketing guy!?!? I think not. He was working in the margins spreading falsehoods and committing acts of subterfuge in the name of promoting fortin. His egregious behavior and wildly inappropriate comments were insane. I couldn’t believe fortin didn’t fire him after the first couple posts. Nope. It went on for many months and it grew worse with each response. His behavior grew more erratic as he devolved. It was quite clear he was descending into full blown madness. Only a total maniac or someone no longer in touch with reality would act like that. The fact that fortin kept him for so long after these wildly egregious incidents says volumes about him. Apparently he has no qualms “borrowing,” the intellectual property of others, might as well keep a lunatic on board also as he stomps out any remains of fortins once good reputation as a lord of circuitry. Well, more like a borrowed lord of circuitry.

Poor form fortin.
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Didn't he work for some other guitar/amp company too? Like Carvin or something?
 
FourT6and2 said:
Yeah all the schematics you could want are on Amp Garage, Ampage, SLO Clone, Metro, etc.
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Gotta take some time to figure out terabytes of info there.

By the way, how hard is to build a quality Mesa Mark clone?
 
PLX said:
What does the back panel look like ?

:unsure:
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CrystalSky said:
You told you built some amps in the past. Can you tell a little bit more about your experience?
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Yep, I've built a bunch of amps. Nothing fancy. Initially went to college to study acoustical engineering. Built my first circuits there for one of my classes. Physics is fun. Math is hard. So I got a business degree instead and have a successful career as a creative in advertising. Started building a few kits here and there for fun, then looked at schematics online and built variations of whatever looked interesting. Modded Marshalls, SLOs, Bogners, Jose mods, etc. I learn as much as I can and have fun building the occasional amp. I can certainly build a wicked mean and pissed-off 800/Jose, but it's nothing I claim I personally designed because I did not invent the JCM800 or Jose mod. But I've certainly re-voiced the design to my personal preferences.

Once you learn what each part of a circuit does, you can tweak things and re-voice the amp however you want. But it's my opinion that changing the voicing of a pre-existing circuit does not mean you invented something new. It's like finding a recipe for chocolate cake on the internet and then experimenting with ingredient amounts. You didn't invent chocolate cake. You simply added more sugar, used 3 eggs instead of 4, and so on. All this drama around guitar amps is similar.

I've had a few offers from some well-known companies and boutique builders to work for them building amps, but it never seemed worth the headache.
 
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FourT6and2 said:
Yep, I've built a bunch of amps. Nothing fancy. Initially went to college to study acoustical engineering. Built my first circuits there for one of my classes. Physics is fun. Math is hard. So I got a business degree instead and have a successful career as a creative in advertising. Started building a few kits here and there for fun, then looked at schematics online and built variations of whatever looked interesting. Modded Marshalls, SLOs, Bogners, Jose mods, etc. I learn as much as I can and have fun building the occasional amp. I can certainly build a wicked mean and pissed-off 800/Jose, but it's nothing I claim I personally designed because I did not invent the JCM800 or Jose mod. But I've certainly re-voiced the design to my personal preferences.

Once you learn what each part of a circuit does, you can start tweaking things and re-voicing things however you want. But it's my opinion that changing the voicing of a pre-existing circuit does not mean you invented something new. It's like finding a recipe for cake on the internet and then experimenting the ingredient amounts. You didn't invent that kind of cake. You simply added more sugar, used 3 eggs instead of 4, and baked it in a water bath at 350 degrees instead of 300. All this drama around guitar amps is similar.

I've had a few offers from some well-known companies and boutique builders to work for them building amps, but it never seemed worth the headache.
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Woooow! You have quite some talent it seems! Super cool!

If I ever try to build, I would want a guy like you as a mentor 🤘🏻
 
CrystalSky said:
Woooow! You have quite some talent it seems! Super cool!

If I ever try to build, I would want a guy like you as a mentor 🤘🏻
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Thank you, but nah I'm just a typical DIY guy. If you want a good mentor, join the SLO Clone forum. The folks there are way more knowledgable than me.
 
I’m amazed that Fortin’s name got as well known and sort after as it has. Who even knew about him and his amps before?

I used to and still really do like the look and sound of the Bones in clips. Never seen one here in Australia. Weird he then went on and became what seems to be another Jose Marshall guy.
 
FourT6and2 said:
Thank you, but nah I'm just a typical DIY guy. If you want a good mentor, join the SLO Clone forum. The folks there are way more knowledgable than me.
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But I heard some praise about your builds here, so not so typical haha

If you recommend someone particular, I’ll take notes.

Btw that forum seems to not work good last time I tried to register.
 
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