FORTIN's Evil Pumpkin – Made in China?

[FourT6and2]

So far I have yet to heard a Larry sound better than a Fortin.

So far, I’ve haven’t heard a Fortin that comes even close to any Larry, Cameron or the Steavens Poundcake 100. And I’ve heard three Fortin mods and a Meshuggah. And that’s by A/Bing them side by side, not by online random audio clips.
On one occasion, a Fortin modded 75 Marshall, with Fortins Jose mod, was put side by side with a Cameron Ocean, and the Fortin pretty much sounded broken. It was like comparing a stock JCM900 to a properly done Jose mod.
Also, the Meshuggah who was shipped to Brazil, was thought it was damaged during shipment, because it sounded nothing like it did on the advertising audio clips. So, they’ve made a copy of it with what they thought would be a better. Voice for component values... it sounded 10x better than the Fortin.
Since I’m too old to be an internet troll, or to just play the online douche, I get my facts from my own experience, or by an unbiased direct a/b comparison. Not by random online audio.
Stay safe

I had a similar experience with the 2 Fortin’s I’ve tried (Meshuggah and Natas) and always stress the importance of AB comparisons. I never form any conclusive opinions of any piece of gear anymore until I AB with something I know well. I think the AB comparisons are crucial

I’ve AB’ed the Meshuggah and Natas with other amps that I felt were great and the Meshuggah sounded comparatively very unimpressive, small and toy-like and I felt similarly about the Natas. The Meshuggah was AB’ed with 2 Cameron modded Marshall’s (Jose and Aldrich mods) and a stock ‘80’s Silver Jubilee. All those 3 amps sounded light years better than the Meshuggah

I never tried a Fortin modded Marshall, but have owned a Gower Killer Kali ++ and Rockmonster, which I heard from others are similar and some have told me even better than the Fortin versions. I thought they sounded good (but not amazing) when I first had them, but again the Cameron modded Marshall’s I had at the time smoked them

First off, what type of music do you play? You have a gjika 10n for crying out loud. Everyone had their own preference I get it. Tone is all subjective. I’ve read your descriptions of amps and it’s like reading a thesaurus when it comes to the words you use. I mean you described a VH4 blueface as being an uncompressed amp. WTF?

I like to play many different styles. I’m primarily a classical guitarist, but for electric I play mostly metal ranging from quite modern to more old school metal and also hard rock. I like to have gear that I feel is among the best for what it’s trying to do. That’s why I have amps like the Vibroverb, which I feel has one of the best cleans out there, the Jim Kelley is amazing for bluesy and fusion type leads, Ampeg Gemini II has these warm, hairy cleans, etc, every amp that I own and plan to keep has its place for something. It sounds like you go for different things than I do with gear and that’s fine. To each their own

The Gjika as I've mentioned before is top notch for everything but metal. I never once said it’s good for metal or hard rock. It though has a level of complexity and quality to its tone that none of my other amps quite have. This has nothing to do with style of music, just quality in tone, very 3D and the fullest sounding amp I’ve tried. Although it’s not a metal or hard rock amp, I appreciate any form of top notch tone and in this case it’s really a beautiful thing to experience even though it’s not really an amp for what I typically play, but I also don’t like to pigeonhole amps for styles. It’s just a great amp. For me playing an amp like this with high quality tone is much more inspiring and enjoyable than playing something like a Fortin, which is actually perfectly suited for the style I usually play, but is sterile and uninteresting in tone

I never said my Blueface was uncompressed, but maybe my wording before implied that somehow. It’s certainly less compressed than most amps I’d use for metal, but I think my Wizard MTL is more open. What I did say about (and stand by) is how huge and heavy it sounds. No amp I’ve tried has such a deep bottom end and such evilness to its tone. You gotta get the master up very high on it, but when you do it’s in many ways the biggest and heaviest sounding amp I’ve tried, the Wizard MTL sounds small in comparison, but I’ve kept it because it’s also in comparison tighter, more defined, faster response and hits you harder

Like I said tone is all subjective. What you like and describe as being the best sounding is strictly your opinion. For example, I have owned 3 Wizards and currently have none. Just not for me. Also owned a Soldano SLO, also not for me. These amps have specific genres of music associated with them. They may be high quality builds and hand wired and all that jazz, but it’s not for me. So really in the end it’s all up to the individual and one can’t go by statements like “oh this is the best amp ever it eats other amps for breakfast” type descriptions.

So what amps are... for you?

 

[SBlue]

So far I have yet to heard a Larry sound better than a Fortin.

So far, I’ve haven’t heard a Fortin that comes even close to any Larry, Cameron or the Steavens Poundcake 100. And I’ve heard three Fortin mods and a Meshuggah. And that’s by A/Bing them side by side, not by online random audio clips.
On one occasion, a Fortin modded 75 Marshall, with Fortins Jose mod, was put side by side with a Cameron Ocean, and the Fortin pretty much sounded broken. It was like comparing a stock JCM900 to a properly done Jose mod.
Also, the Meshuggah who was shipped to Brazil, was thought it was damaged during shipment, because it sounded nothing like it did on the advertising audio clips. So, they’ve made a copy of it with what they thought would be a better. Voice for component values... it sounded 10x better than the Fortin.
Since I’m too old to be an internet troll, or to just play the online douche, I get my facts from my own experience, or by an unbiased direct a/b comparison. Not by random online audio.
Stay safe

I had a similar experience with the 2 Fortin’s I’ve tried (Meshuggah and Natas) and always stress the importance of AB comparisons. I never form any conclusive opinions of any piece of gear anymore until I AB with something I know well. I think the AB comparisons are crucial

I’ve AB’ed the Meshuggah and Natas with other amps that I felt were great and the Meshuggah sounded comparatively very unimpressive, small and toy-like and I felt similarly about the Natas. The Meshuggah was AB’ed with 2 Cameron modded Marshall’s (Jose and Aldrich mods) and a stock ‘80’s Silver Jubilee. All those 3 amps sounded light years better than the Meshuggah

I never tried a Fortin modded Marshall, but have owned a Gower Killer Kali ++ and Rockmonster, which I heard from others are similar and some have told me even better than the Fortin versions. I thought they sounded good (but not amazing) when I first had them, but again the Cameron modded Marshall’s I had at the time smoked them

First off, what type of music do you play? You have a gjika 10n for crying out loud. Everyone had their own preference I get it. Tone is all subjective. I’ve read your descriptions of amps and it’s like reading a thesaurus when it comes to the words you use. I mean you described a VH4 blueface as being an uncompressed amp. WTF?

I like to play many different styles. I’m primarily a classical guitarist, but for electric I play mostly metal ranging from quite modern to more old school metal and also hard rock. I like to have gear that I feel is among the best for what it’s trying to do. That’s why I have amps like the Vibroverb, which I feel has one of the best cleans out there, the Jim Kelley is amazing for bluesy and fusion type leads, Ampeg Gemini II has these warm, hairy cleans, etc, every amp that I own and plan to keep has its place for something. It sounds like you go for different things than I do with gear and that’s fine. To each their own

The Gjika as I've mentioned before is top notch for everything but metal. I never once said it’s good for metal or hard rock. It though has a level of complexity and quality to its tone that none of my other amps quite have. This has nothing to do with style of music, just quality in tone, very 3D and the fullest sounding amp I’ve tried. Although it’s not a metal or hard rock amp, I appreciate any form of top notch tone and in this case it’s really a beautiful thing to experience even though it’s not really an amp for what I typically play, but I also don’t like to pigeonhole amps for styles. It’s just a great amp. For me playing an amp like this with high quality tone is much more inspiring and enjoyable than playing something like a Fortin, which is actually perfectly suited for the style I usually play, but is sterile and uninteresting in tone

I never said my Blueface was uncompressed, but maybe my wording before implied that somehow. It’s certainly less compressed than most amps I’d use for metal, but I think my Wizard MTL is more open. What I did say about (and stand by) is how huge and heavy it sounds. No amp I’ve tried has such a deep bottom end and such evilness to its tone. You gotta get the master up very high on it, but when you do it’s in many ways the biggest and heaviest sounding amp I’ve tried, the Wizard MTL sounds small in comparison, but I’ve kept it because it’s also in comparison tighter, more defined, faster response and hits you harder

Like I said tone is all subjective. What you like and describe as being the best sounding is strictly your opinion. For example, I have owned 3 Wizards and currently have none. Just not for me. Also owned a Soldano SLO, also not for me. These amps have specific genres of music associated with them. They may be high quality builds and hand wired and all that jazz, but it’s not for me. So really in the end it’s all up to the individual and one can’t go by statements like “oh this is the best amp ever it eats other amps for breakfast” type descriptions.

So what amps are... for you?

...many

???????? bullshit - part I

 

[SBlue]

I would suggest a get together with some Fortin amps and the amps that everyone know he got his "inspiration" from.
Then we would play the amps and listen to them all together, A/Bing them side by side, in the same room, and through the same cabinets.
We can record everything and post on youtube. That way, we would solve the problem of people not having Larry clips!
You'll all have a shit load of Larry clips, and even more Fortin clips!
I'd gladly provide the place, the Larry amps, some cabinets, and everything would be registered on a Instagram / Facebook live session, and also recorded and available on youtube for whoever could not watch it in realtime.
We could even go further and compare the Fortin amps that are Cameron "inspired" and compare them with the Camerons too.
We should call the event "Cru Fest"... that way, every time Mike would watch the video or someone would tell him about he would be reminded the reason why it happened.

Wow thanks for taking the time to write about something you will never do. Plus it’s already been done about 11 years ago. And you know who the winner was don’t you?

Bullshit - part II
The only person who said Fortin amp was better than the Larry was you.
And like a loser, you will never, ever bring a Fortin amp, and will shit your pants if someone else does, because you know that it will be eaten for breakfast. And it will not be subjective. It will be a fact. And Mike will remember you forever!!! LOL
You're just an online bullshiter. That's all.
"Many"... LOL

 

[novosibir]

For example, I have owned 3 Wizards and currently have none. Just not for me. Also owned a Soldano SLO, also not for me.

Must have been a very wet dream this one night wasn't it?

 

[SBlue]

I would suggest a get together with some Fortin amps and the amps that everyone know he got his "inspiration" from.
Then we would play the amps and listen to them all together, A/Bing them side by side, in the same room, and through the same cabinets.
We can record everything and post on youtube. That way, we would solve the problem of people not having Larry clips!
You'll all have a shit load of Larry clips, and even more Fortin clips!
I'd gladly provide the place, the Larry amps, some cabinets, and everything would be registered on a Instagram / Facebook live session, and also recorded and available on youtube for whoever could not watch it in realtime.
We could even go further and compare the Fortin amps that are Cameron "inspired" and compare them with the Camerons too.
We should call the event "Cru Fest"... that way, every time Mike would watch the video or someone would tell him about he would be reminded the reason why it happened.

Wow thanks for taking the time to write about something you will never do. Plus it’s already been done about 11 years ago. And you know who the winner was don’t you?

Bullshit - part II
The only person who said Fortin amp was better than the Larry was you.
And like a loser, you will never, ever bring a Fortin amp, and will shit your pants if someone else does, because you know that it will be eaten for breakfast. And it will not be subjective. It will be a fact. And Mike will remember you forever!!! LOL
You're just an online bullshiter. That's all.
"Many"... LOL

Tell you what Fidel, you post a clip of your Larry amps and I’ll post some of my many amps. You can do it Fidel.

Oh look Larry’s back. Hey Larry checks in the mail. $200. Should be there in 18 to 60 months.

I knew you would flake.
You're just like the MeChuppa or the Evil Blumpkin... you're only good behind a computer screen and speakers.
In real like, you're just a fake.

 

[SBlue]

I wanna do it the proper way, and with people around, and any Fortin mod or amp in here.
That way you will not cry out to everybody with the "But tone is subjective, and I don't like Larry" bullshit.
Tobins clip already got to you? That's awesome. That proves what I already suspected.
By the way, that hippie friend got more amps and guitars than you'll ever dream about ever having.
He also don't mind showing off his face, and he won't ask his buddy's for help sharing other peoples private life to make a point online.
You could just stick to amps, but you have none, or you could just stick to the forum, but you have to go out and get into other peoples private life to try getting attention.
Does it worth being Fortin's bottom bitch that much? He might be paying you a lot of money to go through all the trouble of being a Sherlock Holmes for him, but being his bitch... I mean... I know a lot of low life scumbags, but to be Fortin's bitch and go through all this trouble and humiliation, he might be paying you a lot of money!

 

[SBlue]

You should man up a little bit, and either bring something to do a side by side test or just give up and accept that, one, you have nothing, and second, your copies won't ever sound like the real deal.

 

[SBlue]

You’re worse than a politician...but just as delusional. You’re the clown who said you would post clips and now you divert and deflect from the topic at hand. Pathetic. You come hear crying, asking where Larry is and where’s your amp. Then when you finally get it and say you will post clips you don’t.

And no you delusional ass clown, I’m in no way shape or form involved in any Fortin. (Chappell Reference)

I don't know about that. A good Canadian friend even tipped me on your real identity.
So, who is a Krull on screen, isn't more than a copicat(of course copicat again!!!LOL).
Somehow, faking persists around you.

 

[SBlue]

And you won't man up... of course.

 

[SBlue]

I'm interested in knowing your identity as much as you're man enough to show it.
I'm not the one who only goes online to troll other people. Couldn't say one single positive and helpful thing the entire time that is here.
So, you already know the loser in here is you.
Keep on Makin Fakin.

 

[hstlaurent]

I would take this amp, save 3 grand, and 3 years any day of the week.

Good for you.

 

[SBlue]

I'm interested in knowing your identity as much as you're man enough to show it.
I'm not the one who only goes online to troll other people. Couldn't say one single positive and helpful thing the entire time that is here.
So, you already know the loser in here is you.
Keep on Makin Fakin.

That’s cool. I’m a loser and you’re a liar. You and Larry are one and the same.

Oh no... you're loser, a liar and a copicat. There's might be more, but this is as far I know for now.

 

[psychodave]

I’m one of the few people, if not the only person, in this thread who played a Larry Dino and Fortin Natas in the same room. Both amps were great, but the Larry was something special. I played them at a small amp fest in NY and Mike Fortin was there. Played a Fortin Meathead as well. That amp was great too.

 

[SBlue]

Oh... you act like a retarded who escaped from the madhouse for 23 pages and I’m the crackhead ????????
Time for you to copy something else.
Or bring an amp for a shootout.
Just don’t replace the chassis with one from Cameron, Larry or a Steavens. That would make it even worse for the Fortin brand.

 

[Thunkful]

Set the Output control (Master) of a DINO at 0.3 and expect a overwhelming killer sound?
At a loudness level just so loud, that your baby sleeping in the next room doesn't wake up.
Or what else do you expect of a Larry amp?
Dumb ass!

Here is the same guy who posted the Larry clip. He’s playing the Evil Pumpkin at NAMM and the master isn’t set crazy high.

That's really boxy and solid State sounding amp..

OMG

Sound even with a master volume really low 1000x better than the pumpkin clip.

 

[SBlue]

dude you are beyond delusional at this point. Good luck with that next Larry you ordered. Don’t come crying here again asking where he is when time comes for delivery. Maybe by then you will have posted a clip of your other Larry amps. ? So you got about 3-5 years. Take care Fidel.

We all know you have “Many” favorite amps..Including three Wizards, an SLO(copies of them coming soon), a Dino, a British Purist, a Steavens... a lot more. Too bad you cannot even show your face online, cause it would be shameful for you.
Could be a eu person, but is nothing but a pathetic liar.

 

[novosibir]

Are you for real? You think I’m Mike Fortin... you and Larry have some imagination.

Sometimes it's a heavenly benefit to know some great IT experts.

Give up Mike, you're demasked - forever

Better go and create a new profile here, but use another email and another IP address

 

[novosibir]

Wow. You are beyond insane.

Mike, your comment is plainly pityful.

You're definitely demasked now!

Don't force me to post the entire proof of what the ascertainment has turned out.

This then would be still more shameful for you.

 

[311splawndude]

Even being rich I can't buy a decent Larry's amp clip, because it non ecziste...

Not making and posting clips is part of limiting the demand, since I'm a one-man-company and have also a living besides my work.
Currently anyway is order stop until at least Sept this year, after the waiting time has rised up to 27 months.
The really interested people find their way to someone who owns a DINO to experience the beast in reality w/o YT compression.
Anyhow meanwhile there are about 70 DINO's and about 20 other Larry amps in North America

OK. Now even I am getting a little worn out by all of this.

You are purposely limiting clips to limit demand? Oh man, that's rich.

You have 90 amps in the USA approximately? You've been making amps for what - about 30 years? That's 3 amps a year right there.

 

[311splawndude]

Wait, now Krull is Mike Fortin?