Gamers: PS3 or Xbox?

[Code001]

But none of those are out yet, and it's still selling like hot cakes. When they do start hitting, they'll just keep flying off of shelves as they have been for a good while to come.

More consoles = more people to buy games = more games made

And that's the bottom line, cuz Stone Cold said so!

But are there honestly any games worth looking into that aren't rehashed old school games?

 

[simbasa]

Define 'old school rehashed games'. As far as I know 99% of games out there are 'rehashed'. Very rarely is there anything new and unique. The last game that broke the boundaries was Grand Theft Auto III. I can't think of anything released recently that has not been done before.

 

[Code001]

Define 'old school rehashed games'. As far as I know 99% of games out there are 'rehashed'. Very rarely is there anything new and unique. The last game that broke the boundaries was Grand Theft Auto III. I can't think of anything released recently that has not been done before.

How many Dogz, Horsez, Catz, Hamsterz, etc. do we need? The SSB series can only be pushed so far until it gets old, considering it has no storyline. It's games like Haze, MGS4, GT5 and the FF series that are pushing the boundaries of gaming. You're not gonna see anything amazing with Cooking Mama, Super Monkey Ball, or Trauma Center....

 

[ratter]

I was || this close to getting a 360, but I decided to get an xbox controller and games for my laptop instead. Having fun with the Orange Box right now. Got the cable on order to plug it into my HDTV. Figured since I already had the computer...I saved some dough by not having to buy the console...

 

[Code001]

I was || this close to getting a 360, but I decided to get an xbox controller and games for my laptop instead. Having fun with the Orange Box right now. Got the cable on order to plug it into my HDTV. Figured since I already had the computer...I saved some dough by not having to buy the console...

Just curious, but do you have a Hi-Def Vid Card?

 

[ratter]

I was || this close to getting a 360, but I decided to get an xbox controller and games for my laptop instead. Having fun with the Orange Box right now. Got the cable on order to plug it into my HDTV. Figured since I already had the computer...I saved some dough by not having to buy the console...

Just curious, but do you have a Hi-Def Vid Card?

No...just my macbook pro. But my tv is only 720p. I'm hoping it'll output the tv's native res on the dvi port and I can turn off the built-in screen...

 

[OneArmedScissor]

But are there honestly any games worth looking into that aren't rehashed old school games?

Hell if I know. They're not out. But that doesn't have anything to do with this. Remaking Halo three times makes the Xbox 360 sell bazillions of consoles and games. I couldn't possibly tell you why, but that's just the way it goes.

The likelihood of the Wii failing is slim to none. There are already too many of them, and too many Nintendo games on the way.

 

[Code001]

I was || this close to getting a 360, but I decided to get an xbox controller and games for my laptop instead. Having fun with the Orange Box right now. Got the cable on order to plug it into my HDTV. Figured since I already had the computer...I saved some dough by not having to buy the console...

Just curious, but do you have a Hi-Def Vid Card?

No...just my macbook pro. But my tv is only 720p. I'm hoping it'll output the tv's native res on the dvi port and I can turn off the built-in screen...

You're running Orange Box on your MBP? You running Parallels or using Bootcamp? I didn't know either could handle something like Orange Box. Keep me informed if you would, please. I plan on buying one by early 08.

 

[Code001]

But are there honestly any games worth looking into that aren't rehashed old school games?

Hell if I know. They're not out. But that doesn't have anything to do with this. Remaking Halo three times makes the Xbox 360 sell bazillions of consoles and games. I couldn't possibly tell you why, but that's just the way it goes.

The likelihood of the Wii failing is slim to none. There are already too many of them, and too many Nintendo games on the way.

Nintendo will never fail. They've been here since the beginning and they'll continue to be here as long as Japan is alive.

 

[OneArmedScissor]

The bizarre thing about Nintendo is that they can "fail," if you compare their sales to the other humongo corporations, but they still make more money.

Meanwhile, Sony is losing money hand over fist on the PS3. I'm not trying to take shots at anyone for no reason. I just really have no clue wtf cloudnine comes up with this stuff. If you put a gun to my head and asked me which one I thought would fail, I'd have to say the PS3. It has sold the least, and they LOSE MONEY on it. It's still not going to fail, though.

 

[ratter]

You're running Orange Box on your MBP? You running Parallels or using Bootcamp? I didn't know either could handle something like Orange Box. Keep me informed if you would, please. I plan on buying one by early 08.

Bootcamp. So far I've only installed HL2: Episode 2 and TF2. They both run smoothly at 1440x900 with all options on high, anti-aliasing, etc. I was actually really surprised. But obviously they get even smoother if you bump the res and effects down a notch or two. The Bioshock demo also runs great. I'll probably buy that, and then Gears of War when it comes out. This is on a 15" 2.2 GHz with 2GB RAM and 128MB VRAM.

 

[Code001]

The bizarre thing about Nintendo is that they can "fail," if you compare their sales to the other humongo corporations, but they still make more money.

Meanwhile, Sony is losing money hand over fist on the PS3. I'm not trying to take shots at anyone for no reason. I just really have no clue wtf cloudnine comes up with this stuff. If you put a gun to my head and asked me which one I thought would fail, I'd have to say the PS3. It has sold the least, and they LOSE MONEY on it. It's still not going to fail, though.

I'm almost positive they sold the PS2 on launch at a loss. That console turned out to be the most popular console in the world. Once some games come into play, I'm sure we'll see an increase in sales. Just to show you how much games affect sales of devices, one game (FF7CC) sold over 326k PSPs in just three days. That's an awfully impressive number if you ask me. Two days after that date, an additional 109k units of FF7CC were sold, along with 93k units of another game. I'd say wait until 2009 until you start writing off consoles (not that I'm saying you're writing off consoles. It's just a general point I'm making.).

 

[soc_monki]

The wii is selling much better than both the ps3 and the xbox. Third partry developers would be retarded to abandon the wii

That's because people are buying it for the novelty factor and to play Wii sports with Grandma every so often. They're not going to buy anything that Nintendo doesn't release - ie, anything except Mario-associated games.

one big selling point of the Wii is the Virtual Console. do you know how many times i wish i still had a working NES so i could play some of the old games that i loved? now all i have to do is download the games and i dont have to worry about blowing out cartridges or getting the NES fixed. the Wii is an incredible console and has a lot of stuff coming that is going to make it even more mainstream than it already is. games are only a small part of it...people can surf the net, check news, forecasts, exercise, play games...its a very ambitious goal that Nintendo has, but IMO it is working and is filling a niche that Sony and Microsoft arent. the Wii is selling so well because of that fact. it will continue to sell well and no developer worth their code is going to abandon the Wii...theres too much potential for money in it!

i play my 360 more...especially right now since im in a Forza 2 tournament and the fact that i have Orange Box and Halo. but the Wii is awesome...yes there is some novelty to it, but what it can and will do is what is more important. you might think a lot of the Mario games are stupid...but they are seriously fun as hell, like Super Mario Sunshine on the GC. i always had a blast playing that...along with the Metroid series.

and i agree with the PS3 comments...theyre not selling well enough, Sony is losing money hand over fist from it (although they make their money in other ways...theyre not completely tied up in the PS3 that would just be bad business). the best games have yet to come out for the system, and they probably wont be out until next year. then youll maybe see a price drop for the console (if were lucky) and they will start selling a lot more when the games like MGS, GT5, etc etc are out. but theyve lost a lot of exclusives, and a lot of people have gone over to the dark side (MS). personally...i dont think it matters. buy whichever console is gonna make you happy.

and after reading Code's post...he beat me to it

 

[OneArmedScissor]

By the time I think any of them will have the chance to be "written off," they'll be moving on to the next generation. That's how it always goes, save for the disaster that became of Sega. They were always the underdog, though, so it was inevitable that someone with more money would take their place. It'd take another huge corporation to push Nintendo out, and there's just not room for that.

 

[OneArmedScissor]

one big selling point of the Wii is the Virtual Console. do you know how many times i wish i still had a working NES so i could play some of the old games that i loved? now all i have to do is download the games and i dont have to worry about blowing out cartridges or getting the NES fixed.

That appealed to me at first, but they borked that up by being slow as hell, as usual.

If I want a tiny fraction of the games that are out there, then I have to go to emulators. And those are free, and have had everything, all along.

 

[soc_monki]

By the time I think any of them will have the chance to be "written off," they'll be moving on to the next generation. That's how it always goes, save for the disaster that became of Sega. They were always the underdog, though, so it was inevitable that someone with more money would take their place. It'd take another huge corporation to push Nintendo out, and there's just not room for that.

Nintendo is like the grandaddy...still here after all this time. all the other old consoles went out because of Nintendo and the NES, and Nintendo worked with Sony to develop the CD add on for the Nintendo systems...which didnt work out and so Sony gave birth to Playstation.

Nintendo has had some dark times, but their base is too loyal and their influence to wide for them to go under. i think Sony will be around for a long time with the Playstation (again, a lot of loyal customers), and Microsoft will continue on as well, as long as they get their shit straight. they shouldnt have released the 360 so early, and all the flaws have come back to bite them. its good they extended the warranty and are replacing consoles and giving people their money back, but they should have been more pro-active. they still have problems (like with the steering wheel...). if they repeat those mistakes with the next console theyre gonna be in a world of trouble. i still love my 360 though

 

[mrp5150]

one big selling point of the Wii is the Virtual Console. do you know how many times i wish i still had a working NES so i could play some of the old games that i loved? now all i have to do is download the games and i dont have to worry about blowing out cartridges or getting the NES fixed.

That appealed to me at first, but they borked that up by being slow as hell, as usual.

If I want a tiny fraction of the games that are out there, then I have to go to emulators. And those are free, and have had everything, all along.

Just out of sheer curiosity, what would be your favorite 10 games ever?

 

[soc_monki]

one big selling point of the Wii is the Virtual Console. do you know how many times i wish i still had a working NES so i could play some of the old games that i loved? now all i have to do is download the games and i dont have to worry about blowing out cartridges or getting the NES fixed.

That appealed to me at first, but they borked that up by being slow as hell, as usual.

If I want a tiny fraction of the games that are out there, then I have to go to emulators. And those are free, and have had everything, all along.

well...they are a company that is in the business to make money. theyre going to put out the games that will sell the best first obviously. emulators are always a good option...even i have used them but the majority of people who buy the Wii dont really even know about emulators (say that to my mom and youll get a look of confusion!) but she is a gamer and wants some of the games from the Virtual Console, which is a whole lot easier than trying to teach her about emulators...it was almost like pulling teeth telling her about points and how to get the games!

she loves Paper Mario though...and they have the SNES Paper Mario on the Virtual Console and that appeals to her, so shes going to get it. so Nintendo knows what theyre doing...its just a side bonus that i can get Metroid and Kid Icarus and a lot of other games that id like to play again

 

[Code001]

games are only a small part of it...people can surf the net, check news, forecasts, exercise, play games...its a very ambitious goal that Nintendo has, but IMO it is working and is filling a niche that Sony and Microsoft arent.

People can already do that with the PS3. It has a built-in browser and is Linux-ready if you're really ambitious. You can even exercise with DDR matts if that's your thing.

 

[OneArmedScissor]

Just out of sheer curiosity, what would be your favorite 10 games ever?

Hard to pick 10, so here's as close as I can easily get:

EarthBound
Donkey Kong Country 3
Zelda: A Link To The Past
Super Metroid
Starcraft
Unreal Tournament/UT2k4 (sort of cheating, but it depends)
Asheron's Call, at least for the first year or two on the PVP server
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Resident Evil 1 (mostly the GC one, it's actually better)
Maybe Final Fantasy 8, though I haven't played that in years. I want to play it again, but I don't have the time. I remember it took me 80 hours to beat it once lol.

Some other runner ups that I have played the crap out of and still love, but wouldn't be so likely to spend much time with today:

Command & Conquer Generals
all the old Dooms
Tyrian 2000
One Must Fall
Gradius III
random Street Fighter IIs
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Goldeneye 64
Twisted Metal 2
Gran Turismo
Vigilante 8 1 and 2
Final Fantasy Tactics and the GBA one
Castlevania Circle of The Moon

I never had Symphony of The Night. My friend got it for 360, and I started playing it a little, though.

Haha I loved the original Pokemon when it came out, too. Those got lame, though.