Guitar Sound or Tone you are bored with?

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GearGasms said:
I don't know if it counts but I'm over the whole brick wall limiter mastering method. The loudness wars are at a cease fire because nobody won.
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Very, very much agree

Just the difference in dynamic range means I would much prefer to listen to low budget 80s speed metal like running wild or scanner than modern pro tools metal
 
311splawndude said:
I think it fits Van Halen music perfectly. Over the top party music - what's not to like? That, and in the late 70s no one else was really doing that so it was fresh then. Now? Yeah, I get how people either just don't dig the noodling or are completely burned out on it. I have to be very careful about getting burned out on music as I sometimes will play a CD over and over and over again ad nauseum. I mean, I practically went a whole year listening to nothing but Killswitch Engage. Then, back in June, I realized I had Pantera's Greatest Hits CD in my truck for 4 months straight :LOL:
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I did that with acdc, rush, zztop, eagles, etc when i was young and playing drums to them.
 
ccn said:
The guy who single handedly rewrote the book on rock guitar has one good solo , my God man where do they find these people .
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I know it is scary to think for yourself or respect someone else that isnt a sheep, but if you remember back to the future 2 or 3, when he is overdoing the solo and loses the music, thats what i feel van halen did most every song. I am sure it was fun to do, and it is impressive, but musically adding to the song, not near as much as pink floyd simple solos.

As far as throwing sand in your eyes, dime had very impressive noodling that actually Added to his songs.
 
Smashedguitaris⸸ said:
I know it is scary to think for yourself or respect someone else that isnt a sheep, but if you remember back to the future 2 or 3, when he is overdoing the solo and loses the music, thats what i feel van halen did most every song. I am sure it was fun to do, and it is impressive, but musically adding to the song, not near as much as pink floyd simple solos.

As far as throwing sand in your eyes, dime had very impressive noodling that actually Added to his songs.
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fucking Gilmour. now that i got a strat i really need to learn some of his solos
 
I'm actually bored with all the music I listen to. I'm so into making my own music that I don't really have the focus for anything else. Of course listening to your own music gets fatiguing after a while.

Sometimes silence is golden!

As far as my tone for recording, it sounds a little fizzy through headphones (not great ones), but sounds pretty good through everything else. I'm not bored with it. Im quite satisfied with it...still.
 
I personally do not like most amp sounds or demos with a boost pedal, or a lot of pedals in front in general. I occasionally kick on a tubescreamer noodling around but we live in a time where you can get ultra tight high gain metal tones straight from an amp. So while I like the idea that you can turn the gain down and get a slightly different flavor with a pedal, it's just not my thing when it comes to listening.

As for being bored of music, I skip a lot of "guitar-y" songs when I'm doing my daily stuff. I listen to music while I work, drive, or clean the house, but basically anything I know how to play I skip. Then in the evening I jam out to those tracks and play along. Helps keep from burning out and sometimes I pick up on interesting melodies and stuff, like what a sax or keyboard can do.
 
Techdeth said:
Same drums with same axe efx tone
Over and over . Then a guy screams . I’m a death metal guy .think about how Death , Corpse , Carcass , morbid Angel , and Deicide . They all had different guitar sounds drum sounds and vocals . Fuck me I love metal but they do get the same damn sounds . And btw I hate axe efx . But they just go for the same sounds , no tweaking to be original
Edit : I have axe fx 2 . Use if for effects
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this is why i don't even bother listening to new stuff. i know its closed minded, i know i'm missing out on something i'm sure. There is a life time of music to listen to between 1983 and 2003 in just the metal genre alone between all the bands all over the world. I hate what the digital age has done to production. everything is the opposite of what it was in the 80s and 90s. instead of building a production, its more about getting it done fast and cheap. Same drum samples, same tones, same song structures, etc. its like content just shit out because they have to. not a lot of truly inspiring stuff going on based on what i have heard. even bands that i love like At The Gates have fallen into that shit. Slaughter of the soul sounded like Thomas was going to jump off the speaker and stab your face. The mix was SHARP but dynamic. the newer records sound so subdued in comparison, on all fronts.
 
VonBonfire said:
Nice. So the Jackson is for when you don't feel like blowing everyone away so easily with your Pauls.

The les paul hatred others are spewing in here is making me want one.
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The Truth about my Les Paul Addiction always gets confused as i'm a Zakk Fan Boy. I actually wanted a Les Paul after watching Testaments "Seen Between the Lines" VHS Tape when i was a kid & Eric Peterson was playing one a few times.....The Video is also the reason i bought a Black Explorer. I miss that explorer. The Jackson is a T-1000 Scott Ian Signature.....My Favorite 2 Guitar Players are Scott Ian & Eric Peterson.
 
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Detroit1973 said:
The Truth about my Les Paul Addiction always gets confused as i'm a Zakk Fan Boy. I actually wanted a Les Paul after watching Testaments "Seen Between the Lines" VHS Tape when i was a kid & Eric Peterson was playing one a few times.....The Video is alos the reason i bought a Black Explorer. I miss that explorer. The Jackson is a T-1000 Scott Ian Signature.....My Favorite 2 Guitar Players are Scott Ian & Eric Peterson.
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Both great players. Peterson may be one of the most underrated rhythm players in that genre of music.
 
ccn said:
The guy who single handedly rewrote the book on rock guitar has one good solo , my God man where do they find these people .
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Slow down his solos sometime…we used to do Im the One in my last band…nothing but gibberish when ya slow it down. He had a few good moments, but the majority of it not so much.
 
Greazygeo said:
Slow down his solos sometime…we used to do Im the One in my last band…nothing but gibberish when ya slow it down. He had a few good moments, but the majority of it not so much.
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Not every solo has to be judged strictly on it's melodic content. His rhythm playing swing is legendary but many of his solos did too. His lead phrasing had tons of unorthodox rhythmic nooks and crannies, especially on albums like Fair Warning. The swing factor will be lost if the passage analyzed is slowed down.
 
Detroit1973 said:
I know the Dime tone thing has been done to death as well. i saw Pantera when they opened for Wrathchild America in Ft.Lauderdale & his tone wasn't terrible, Wrathchilds tone was better. now with that said, i LOVED Dime. Nicest dude i ever met back then.
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Was that at The Edge?
 
RaceU4her said:
fucking Gilmour. now that i got a strat i really need to learn some of his solos
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I legit have a harder time with the majority of Gilmour’s solos than I do any of the shredder/virtuoso guys. I might have wrote about it when I posted that clip of the “Coming Back To Life” middle section but Gilmour is such a non-linear player and can hang around the same 4 notes while sounding like he’s moving all over the damn neck. It’s taking me less time to learn the intro to ”Cliffs Of Dover” note for note than it took me to figure out that fucking Gilmour solo.

And then when you start adding in the little nuance shit, like the way he does these partial bends within a lick that you don’t really appreciate until you go to play it and realize it’s a fuck of a lot trickier to get that in there fluidly than it seems.
 
Detroit1973 said:
No. Button South in Hallendale. The club that is across from GC & is now a Strip Club.
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That’s now the only GC with decent guitars in it, but the staff is a bunch of cunts and have been for the 20 years I‘ve lived here.
 
thegame said:
Not every solo has to be judged strictly on it's melodic content. His rhythm playing swing is legendary but many of his solos did too. His lead phrasing had tons of unorthodox rhythmic nooks and crannies, especially on albums like Fair Warning. The swing factor will be lost if the passage analyzed is slowed down.
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I think Eddie was a fantastic rhythm player, but I agree a lot of his leads seem like gibberish?

I respect his talent and influence, certainly, but I think alot of players grew up with guitarists influenced more by Ritchie Blackmore, Schenker, Wolf Hoffman, and Uli Roth rather than by Eddie.

That whole "pentatonics, major scale, plus chromatics" style is simply boring/unappealing to people who listened to underground players, instead of the LA hair scene - at least in my case, and with alot of my IRL buddies. I imagine it's the same with dudes here.

The rhythmic phrasing indeed IS tasty, but the melodic sensibilities ride dangerously close to Dr Rockzo the metalocalypse clown to anyone who grew up idolizing the guitar in Bad Brains or Coroner instead of Ratt and Crüe.
 
Some of my favorite recordings are live recordings. The magic, the organic nature of band music is somewhat lost I think with modern production technique and approach.

So, in general, I think boredom is one issue but the deeper problems are:

1) Over-produced, sterile production — same trend in guitar tone. The digitization influence.
2) Copying tone or simply taking tone trend to extreme vs creating, evolving tone and prioritizing originality. EVH was a pioneer. So was Hendrix. So is Gary Holt. Let them influence you but make it your own!
 
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