Inside: EVH's touring EVHIII amp head pics I took yesterday

[Anonymous]

Echodrive you said that there is no difference in tone between van halen 1 and van halen II,there is,van halen 1 is much more aggressive and edgey the van halen II you can plainly hear it,van halen II sounds less aggressive.Van halen 1 is the most aggressive sounding then any of the van halen recordings.As for Ed using the Soldano SLO he started to use that amp in 1990.

No. He's saying that others can't hear it, but he can, which is silly, because any guitarist can hear a difference...

Steve

Steve = poser.

I'm so hurt...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, we're on the same page, however, here is something interesting. These are Van Haleny style lead clips made with an unboosted, stock plexi style amp. Gainy enough sounding dontcha think?:

Lead Clip I
Lead Clip II

Steve

True.. sweet clips indeed. BUT i guarantee he is using something crazy like a super distortion like Ralle was over at Metro. Crazy gain with that PU so that is another variable. Low gain PU though, no chance. I guess I really don't have much of a point anymore do i ..let's gang up on Lynch again!

That was me playing in those clips and it is an 8.2K pickup into a NMW 100 W Plexi style amp completely cranked. No boost, no distortion. Just the amp and a low output pickup...

Steve

 

[echodrive]

Yeah, we're on the same page, however, here is something interesting. These are Van Haleny style lead clips made with an unboosted, stock plexi style amp. Gainy enough sounding dontcha think?:

Lead Clip I
Lead Clip II

Steve

True.. sweet clips indeed. BUT i guarantee he is using something crazy like a super distortion like Ralle was over at Metro. Crazy gain with that PU so that is another variable. Low gain PU though, no chance. I guess I really don't have much of a point anymore do i ..let's gang up on Lynch again!

That was me playing in those clips and it is an 8.2K pickup into a NMW 100 W Plexi style amp completely cranked. No boost, no distortion. Just the amp and a low output pickup...

Steve

It does sound good. if you're using 1K5W grid-stoppers, try 500 ohm instead... See what you think?

 

[Stramm8]

Eds early sound(first album Van halen 1)is very bright,I set the tone controls on the amp that im using the same way,i have been for many years.

Ed's early tone was a combination of two amplifiers - not a modded Marshall. Jose did remove the "mustard" caps and the stock transformers, but that was pretty much it. For his original tone, Ed played into a Vox AC15 pushed into power-tube distortion - into an attenuator - into a Marshall Plexi. He didn't use this rig on VH II, as he had a PPIMV installed into his Marshall. He didn't like that setup, so he went back to his Vox/Marshall rig... From there he used his Soldano SLO 100, then other configurations followed... The "Jose mod" circuit is complete BS!

You have to understand that us "old-timers" didn't have a ton of distortion pedals to plug into. To get good distortion, you had to turn the amp up as loud as you could. Some amps "broke-up" nicely - others not so nice. The Vox and Marshall amps were the best for power-tube distortion. If you want this tone without the hassles of a multi-amp rig, find a Cornford "Hellcat" amplifier. It's basically a "balls-to-the-wall" hot-rodded AC30! The early issue models seem to sound better than the later models? The Guytron "GT100" was designed with Ed's early rig in mind... It's basically a Vox AC15 into an attenuator circuit, and then into a 100 watt EL34 back-end amp. The later FV models seem to "cut-through" better than the early issue models. More voicing options for sure.

The Peavey 5150 is a basically copy of the SLO 100 circuit (as so many amps are...). Peavey used 100 ohm screen resistors, and made some other minor changes. The 5150 III is in the same category.

Here's Ed playing through his VH I rig:

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but that Vox is a backup. It's pretty well documented that he had a variety of amps he used for back up if one of his main marshalls went down. I'd post some of the documentation of that but I'm too lazy Check the metro amp forum...

 

[echodrive]

Eds early sound(first album Van halen 1)is very bright,I set the tone controls on the amp that im using the same way,i have been for many years.

Ed's early tone was a combination of two amplifiers - not a modded Marshall. Jose did remove the "mustard" caps and the stock transformers, but that was pretty much it. For his original tone, Ed played into a Vox AC15 pushed into power-tube distortion - into an attenuator - into a Marshall Plexi. He didn't use this rig on VH II, as he had a PPIMV installed into his Marshall. He didn't like that setup, so he went back to his Vox/Marshall rig... From there he used his Soldano SLO 100, then other configurations followed... The "Jose mod" circuit is complete BS!

You have to understand that us "old-timers" didn't have a ton of distortion pedals to plug into. To get good distortion, you had to turn the amp up as loud as you could. Some amps "broke-up" nicely - others not so nice. The Vox and Marshall amps were the best for power-tube distortion. If you want this tone without the hassles of a multi-amp rig, find a Cornford "Hellcat" amplifier. It's basically a "balls-to-the-wall" hot-rodded AC30! The early issue models seem to sound better than the later models? The Guytron "GT100" was designed with Ed's early rig in mind... It's basically a Vox AC15 into an attenuator circuit, and then into a 100 watt EL34 back-end amp. The later FV models seem to "cut-through" better than the early issue models. More voicing options for sure.

The Peavey 5150 is a basically copy of the SLO 100 circuit (as so many amps are...). Peavey used 100 ohm screen resistors, and made some other minor changes. The 5150 III is in the same category.

Here's Ed playing through his VH I rig:

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but that Vox is a backup. It's pretty well documented that he had a variety of amps he used for back up if one of his main marshalls went down. I'd post some of the documentation of that but I'm too lazy Check the metro amp forum...

You're so full of shit it IS funny! "A backup amp..."

 

[Anonymous]

Eds early sound(first album Van halen 1)is very bright,I set the tone controls on the amp that im using the same way,i have been for many years.

Ed's early tone was a combination of two amplifiers - not a modded Marshall. Jose did remove the "mustard" caps and the stock transformers, but that was pretty much it. For his original tone, Ed played into a Vox AC15 pushed into power-tube distortion - into an attenuator - into a Marshall Plexi. He didn't use this rig on VH II, as he had a PPIMV installed into his Marshall. He didn't like that setup, so he went back to his Vox/Marshall rig... From there he used his Soldano SLO 100, then other configurations followed... The "Jose mod" circuit is complete BS!

You have to understand that us "old-timers" didn't have a ton of distortion pedals to plug into. To get good distortion, you had to turn the amp up as loud as you could. Some amps "broke-up" nicely - others not so nice. The Vox and Marshall amps were the best for power-tube distortion. If you want this tone without the hassles of a multi-amp rig, find a Cornford "Hellcat" amplifier. It's basically a "balls-to-the-wall" hot-rodded AC30! The early issue models seem to sound better than the later models? The Guytron "GT100" was designed with Ed's early rig in mind... It's basically a Vox AC15 into an attenuator circuit, and then into a 100 watt EL34 back-end amp. The later FV models seem to "cut-through" better than the early issue models. More voicing options for sure.

The Peavey 5150 is a basically copy of the SLO 100 circuit (as so many amps are...). Peavey used 100 ohm screen resistors, and made some other minor changes. The 5150 III is in the same category.

Here's Ed playing through his VH I rig:

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but that Vox is a backup. It's pretty well documented that he had a variety of amps he used for back up if one of his main marshalls went down. I'd post some of the documentation of that but I'm too lazy Check the metro amp forum...

Absolutely. As I mentioned earlier, he used MusicMan amps - whatever he could get his hands on as backups, etc... There is nothing to suggest the early VH tone is a slaved Vox.

Steve

 

[Stramm8]

Eds early sound(first album Van halen 1)is very bright,I set the tone controls on the amp that im using the same way,i have been for many years.

Ed's early tone was a combination of two amplifiers - not a modded Marshall. Jose did remove the "mustard" caps and the stock transformers, but that was pretty much it. For his original tone, Ed played into a Vox AC15 pushed into power-tube distortion - into an attenuator - into a Marshall Plexi. He didn't use this rig on VH II, as he had a PPIMV installed into his Marshall. He didn't like that setup, so he went back to his Vox/Marshall rig... From there he used his Soldano SLO 100, then other configurations followed... The "Jose mod" circuit is complete BS!

You have to understand that us "old-timers" didn't have a ton of distortion pedals to plug into. To get good distortion, you had to turn the amp up as loud as you could. Some amps "broke-up" nicely - others not so nice. The Vox and Marshall amps were the best for power-tube distortion. If you want this tone without the hassles of a multi-amp rig, find a Cornford "Hellcat" amplifier. It's basically a "balls-to-the-wall" hot-rodded AC30! The early issue models seem to sound better than the later models? The Guytron "GT100" was designed with Ed's early rig in mind... It's basically a Vox AC15 into an attenuator circuit, and then into a 100 watt EL34 back-end amp. The later FV models seem to "cut-through" better than the early issue models. More voicing options for sure.

The Peavey 5150 is a basically copy of the SLO 100 circuit (as so many amps are...). Peavey used 100 ohm screen resistors, and made some other minor changes. The 5150 III is in the same category.

Here's Ed playing through his VH I rig:

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but that Vox is a backup. It's pretty well documented that he had a variety of amps he used for back up if one of his main marshalls went down. I'd post some of the documentation of that but I'm too lazy Check the metro amp forum...

You're so full of shit it IS funny! "A backup amp..."

I just figured it out...Your the GainDeli aka jcooperman. The image code on that picture from your photobucket account has your name on it: i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu285/jcoopercam/VanHalen.jpg. And you started popping off about Guytron amps; major tip off. Holy shit, you are such a fucking douche I don't think I have come across a bigger idiot on a forum than you. Have a nice day "old timer"...Fucking moron

 

[nitro]

 

[echodrive]

So what is wrong with Guytron amps? What's your point? You say that I should be banned... For what? Oh, that's right - it all started with my implying that Mark Cameron could not be trusted... That was back in 2008. By the way - how is that working out for Cameron CCV buyers? That's right, your buddy Mark has systematically ripped-off numerous people, and you approve of his proclivities... You're a fucking dirt-bag!

The fact that anyone would spend that much time and effort playing forum "cop" is extremely creepy to say the least... Who gives a fuck what you think anyway? Oh, that's right - this is where your narcissistic personality disorder rears its ugly head!

Just for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist ... y_disorder

 

[petethorn]

Without really spending any time or tweaking (I'd just recieved the amp that day), And eith a low output paf and no echoplex preamp- I'd say that amp gets it, all day long.

 

[Schaf]

Eds early sound(first album Van halen 1)is very bright,I set the tone controls on the amp that im using the same way,i have been for many years.

Ed's early tone was a combination of two amplifiers - not a modded Marshall. Jose did remove the "mustard" caps and the stock transformers, but that was pretty much it. For his original tone, Ed played into a Vox AC15 pushed into power-tube distortion - into an attenuator - into a Marshall Plexi. He didn't use this rig on VH II, as he had a PPIMV installed into his Marshall. He didn't like that setup, so he went back to his Vox/Marshall rig... From there he used his Soldano SLO 100, then other configurations followed... The "Jose mod" circuit is complete BS!

You have to understand that us "old-timers" didn't have a ton of distortion pedals to plug into. To get good distortion, you had to turn the amp up as loud as you could. Some amps "broke-up" nicely - others not so nice. The Vox and Marshall amps were the best for power-tube distortion. If you want this tone without the hassles of a multi-amp rig, find a Cornford "Hellcat" amplifier. It's basically a "balls-to-the-wall" hot-rodded AC30! The early issue models seem to sound better than the later models? The Guytron "GT100" was designed with Ed's early rig in mind... It's basically a Vox AC15 into an attenuator circuit, and then into a 100 watt EL34 back-end amp. The later FV models seem to "cut-through" better than the early issue models. More voicing options for sure.

The Peavey 5150 is a basically copy of the SLO 100 circuit (as so many amps are...). Peavey used 100 ohm screen resistors, and made some other minor changes. The 5150 III is in the same category.

Here's Ed playing through his VH I rig:

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but that Vox is a backup. It's pretty well documented that he had a variety of amps he used for back up if one of his main marshalls went down. I'd post some of the documentation of that but I'm too lazy Check the metro amp forum...

Absolutely. As I mentioned earlier, he used MusicMan amps - whatever he could get his hands on as backups, etc... There is nothing to suggest the early VH tone is a slaved Vox.

Steve

Agreed. The Vox thing is BS. I've seen many things on what EVH used to record #1 and this would be the first about the Vox. Say what you will about Steve, but he knows tone. If Echodrive has any proof of it, let's see it. Until then it's just something he dreamed up because he saw a picture. When he can come up with something to back it up then I'll believe it

Schaf

 

[echodrive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6Gz2pJ4ec&sns=em

Without really spending any time or tweaking (I'd just recieved the amp that day), And eith a low output paf and no echoplex preamp- I'd say that amp gets it, all day long.

Well, your playing is great! The tone is nice, but I'd love to hear you play that through a Cornford Hellcat or a Star Gainstar 30 in a W/D rig with s bit of EQ! I just sold a PT100 last week... Nice cleans - didn't care for the gain tones at all. I'd love to try one of his new PT-100 models. I think he has a PTP model too?

 

[kasperjensen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6Gz2pJ4ec&sns=em

Without really spending any time or tweaking (I'd just recieved the amp that day), And eith a low output paf and no echoplex preamp- I'd say that amp gets it, all day long.

You are one bad mofo!!!

 

[Gainfreak]

Arguing from Ignorance

Explanation
Arguments from ignorance infer that a proposition is true from the fact that it is not known to be false. Not all arguments of this form are fallacious; if it is known that if the proposition were not true then it would have been disproven, then a valid argument from ignorance may be constructed. In other cases, though, arguments from ignorance are fallacious.

Example
(1) No one has been able to disprove the existence of God.
Therefore:
(2) God exists.

This argument is fallacious because the non-existence of God is perfectly consistent with no one having been able to prove God’s non-existence.

Replace the Vox amp With God.

Until Echo can come up with Proof there is no validity to his statement......:NONE:

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Nothing stirs up middle aged guitar player ego/drama like an EVH gear thread.

Some of the same characters from that monster thread over at TGP making an encore appearance here I see.

 

[petethorn]

Nothing stirs up middle aged guitar player ego/drama like an EVH gear thread.

Some of the same characters from that monster thread over at TGP making an encore appearance here I see.

Yup me included haha

 

[echodrive]

Nothing stirs up middle aged guitar player ego/drama like an EVH gear thread.

Some of the same characters from that monster thread over at TGP making an encore appearance here I see.

Judging by Steve's avatar - I'd say that's ego run amok!

 

[Schaf]

Nothing stirs up middle aged guitar player ego/drama like an EVH gear thread.

Some of the same characters from that monster thread over at TGP making an encore appearance here I see.

Judging by Steve's avatar - I'd say that's ego run amok!

These threads always turn ugly. I'm just not sure why the OP doesn't show the proof instead of insulting anyone who opposes his view.

Schaf

 

[Gainfreak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6Gz2pJ4ec&sns=em

Without really spending any time or tweaking (I'd just recieved the amp that day), And eith a low output paf and no echoplex preamp- I'd say that amp gets it, all day long.

Well, your playing is great! The tone is nice, but I'd love to hear you play that through a Cornford Hellcat or a Star Gainstar 30 in a W/D rig with s bit of EQ! I just sold a PT100 last week... Nice cleans - didn't care for the gain tones at all. I'd love to try one of his new PT-100 models. I think he has a PTP model too?

 

[bubbastain]