New Cameron CCV Video Done at TM

[rokker]

Don't sell yourself short Mark.
I'm sure others will disagree but I LOVE everything you play. The other Mark may be speedy but you're no slouch.
I think YOU ROCK!

 

[rlord1974]

I'm not sure what it is but when Mark D plays his tone is consistant. This is not a bad thing, it is a great tone but it is Mark's tone. I don't think it lets the true tone of the amp come thru. I don't know if you can contribute it to the guitar, the recording setup, or just his fingers??? If you go back and listen to the the demo he did using the Luxxtone guitar it has the same Mark D tone.

They all sound the same because that's Mark's idea of what the electric guitar should sound like!

You give me a Marshall, a Bogner and a Soldano and let me dial in a tone I like on each, and I bet they'll all sound very similar as well.

The point is, any experienced player will get his "sound" regardless of the amp they are using. Sure, a lot of it has to do with an individual's "fingers" and playing style, but it is even moreso dictated by the player's ears and how they dial the amp to get at the tone they like.

This isn't to say that, once dialed in, all three amps in my above exampe would sound identical. However, the core tone would be very similar, with subtle differences chocked up to the builder's/manufacturer's voicing of the amp in question. When I look to buy a new amp, it's those subtle differences that I focus on - they are they real differentiating factor.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't put much stock in clips but....I've heard much better clips and to be honest.....The tone of the amp does not inspire..

Mics placed in front of speakers with no post don't do much to inspire, but this is what folks wanted to hear. Why??? I have no idea, but that's what we did. I never understood the "lets hear it bone dry and make it sound like a camel stuck in the sand mentality" It doesn't sound anything like it does in the room.

If I posted this clip with my usual post processing and FX people would say lets hear it dry??? I don't get it, lol.

I may just remix this the way I usually do and repost lol.

The Cameron clips that have more "room" in the mix sound better, no doubt.

We had no time or proper monitoring to do mic placement, etc because the store was open and we had people walking in and out all day. The circumtances were certainly not ideal


Mark

It's just not a good sounding clip and nobody's fault. We all know and are sure the amp sounds like it's supposed to but it just didn't translate well through the 1's and 0's.....

 

[thegame]

I am a 80s supersoaker,

I used to wet my bed too.

 

[Rogue]

Well, that was kind of a build up to a let down. I'm not terribly impressed with the tone caught in this clip.

Nice playing though.

 

[JohnSykes]

I liked it and great playing btw.

 

[Mark Day]

I just spent my lunch doing a remix for you dudes, fuck this dry shit. Now it will have some Waves and Logic post stuff to make it not so out of phase, thin and sandpapery.

I'm sure I'll get complaints on this too, but I'll feel a little better about it..lol.

Uploading now will post as soon as it's done.

Thank you for your cooperation

Mark

 

[Anonymous]

I just spent my lunch doing a remix for you dudes, fuck this dry shit. Now it will have some Waves and Logic post stuff to make it not so out of phase, thin and sandpapery.

I'm sure I'll get complaints on this too, but I'll feel a little better about it..lol.

Uploading now will post as soon as it's done.

Thank you for your cooperation

Mark

Thats the spirit!! Doctor it up so there's 100% from the masses....lol!!

 

[mikehickey]

Mics placed in front of speakers with no post don't do much to inspire,

this really is true, I was just recording some clips like this yesterday with my Marsha and decided it was a bad idea... it often works great in a song when mixed with instruments and doubled, but just about any amp is gonna sound not so good mic'd close and dry. I would rather hear an amp in context.

 

[Nico]

I just spent my lunch doing a remix for you dudes, fuck this dry shit. Now it will have some Waves and Logic post stuff to make it not so out of phase, thin and sandpapery.

I'm sure I'll get complaints on this too, but I'll feel a little better about it..lol.

Uploading now will post as soon as it's done.

Thank you for your cooperation

Mark

@ work and haven't had the chance to hear the clips so I can't comment.

Mark IF you do upload another one, please be kind enough to leave the original in the thread too, so we can compare them...

 

[Mark Day]

I just spent my lunch doing a remix for you dudes, fuck this dry shit. Now it will have some Waves and Logic post stuff to make it not so out of phase, thin and sandpapery.

I'm sure I'll get complaints on this too, but I'll feel a little better about it..lol.

Uploading now will post as soon as it's done.

Thank you for your cooperation

Mark

Thats the spirit!! Doctor it up so there's 100% from the masses....lol!!

Ya, true, every recorded guitar tone must be just straight dry into a mic then to CD...lol.

Seriously, I'm just going to mix it like I normally would. It just sounds better, to me anyway

Mark

 

[halebox]

I thought it sounded pretty good. Im guessing the speakers were 75's by the look of cab? Im waiting for the home demos of the 1st 12 buyers as there will be less pressure to deliver

 

[freeballinusa]

I feel like I can hear through the clip__ The Magic ness of the sound of the 2008 Namm clip seems to be in tact enough -- evenone has their opinion in mine the sm57 is a suck gtr mic haha -- for the same reason it is rad on snare --it adds hash and distortion/noise.. is why it fails on the cameron -- the e609 is cool !especially for the $ but a real MD409 with a good EQ wastes it.. SO When I finally get my hands on one I will not neccecarily do "post" but just record like you normally would __ in this case a MD409 and maybve a M88 through Neve pres- and API Eq'S -- if the gain is backed off a bit and you have the monitering to make decisions -- I am sure you could make something SUPER bitching with that amp instantly.

again considering you were just slamming it into the Duet without a monitoring set up--- IT IS AWESOME --

I think people are just way expecting alot cause of all the excitment --

I for one finally can chill
The Cameron I ordered is what I want good work__


More important to me is the character of the tone is more modern but has something in common with my favorite modded plexi__ I can not wait to "play growly through it -- I think I can hear that it will be exactly what I was hoping for --

Please excuse the excitement -- I am not usually into anything new

RAWK!

 

[Mark Day]

Remix:

 

[glip22]

This second clip is much better.

 

[se7en]

Ahhh, that's better...wasn't too impressed with that first one...

 

[Les Zombie]

i would rather listen to mark day play than mark cameron, cameron can play but i dig the other dudes style and examples better.
i also dont know if i like what ive heard or not, im listening thru bose speakers and not the crappy shit but im not blown away by the ccv yet, theres plenty of clips on yt and clips other people have made to get a idea if i would like it, i guess i might be expecting too much from a amp that people have made into a god. i just dont hear the magical tones others do and i guess i need to get the feel of the amp.

 

[Nico]

I've heard both clips now...

What was done to the remix? I hope I can get some of that magic for my recordings!!!

 

[Mark Day]

I've heard both clips now...

What was done to the remix? I hope I can get some of that magic for my recordings!!!

Delayed one mic by inserting a Logic Sample Delay set at around 792 on the strip, added a Waves RVerb guitar plate reverb at about 1.2secs and a Waves Double to the guitar bus..ever so slighty. The Sample delay is what makes it sound bigger. Waves LL3 Ultra and a Waves C4.

Mark

 

[bubbastain]

I was really looking forward to a video demo similar to the Tone Merchants video demo of the Marsha. You know, with some intro music, Rob talking about the amp, Settings displayed and then 30-45 second bits of someone playing with those settings. Some dry and some a bit moist. Different guitars,Heavy riffing, some soloing ect. I just saw that demo for the first time a few weeks ago and thought it was the best amp demo i'd ever seen. There have been and will be more killer sounding clips of the CCV from various owners but the video demo of the Marsha was as close as you can get to knowing about an amp short of playing it yourself.