acceptance
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Fair enough. I'm not trying to convince anyone btw. And I agree with Von, even though I'm not Christian, that it is a mystery. That is I don't think the people who we think know actually don't know either. It's interesting that a believer and non-believer have come to a similar view on this.You make good arguments @acceptance. The answer to your question is...yes.
I trust the thousands of observations made going back to Aristotle (google says 384-822 B.C.). If someone gave me concrete evidence that the earth was flat I guess I'd look at it but the evidence otherwise is overwhelming. Just watching Jupiter's moons circle around is enough for me practically.
If all the governments of the world (including Russian and China) were trying to trick 8 billion people then why would they spend so much time and money sending probes, satellites, spaceships, humans, and telescope up into space/the heavens?
And if they were, then why? What would be gained?
And if something were to be gained, at what cost? Was all the fakery really worth it. How do you get that many people in cahoots? Most of these thousands of people that are 'in on it' don't even know each other and don't speak the same languages.
The best evidence I can give you is your own senses. You can't see any curvature and you can't feel any spinning. You can't find curved water. You can't see or detect gravity. In other words, there is nothing about the world we live in that your senses would lead you to believe that we live on a spinning ball. But humans have been observing the bodies in the sky and theorizing about what they are and why they act as they do for all of history, which have given rise to the ball earth idea, among others. In other words, it is an entirely intellectual endeavor. But you take this for granted because you have seen pictures and the people that you have trusted tell you it is so.
Why? As I said, for money and power, like every deception. And to break your confidence in yourself. Von can tell you more about this, but there are ways that people can be psychologically groomed to just listen and obey, and I think this is one of them.
I keep saying, only very few people in high levels need to be in cahoots. And still tons of evidence slips through, but people ignore it or waive it away. Greenrooms, missing rocks, inconsistent testimony and so on. And I don't think different countries need to be in on anything together, they just need to get the idea and run with it. Everything else comes naturally for those with a desire to prey on fellow man.
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