Reverb bans Pussy Melter pedal and I got attacked by SJWs

[nightlight]

they have a delay coming out soon called the "poontang boomerang" I am buying that too to compliment the melter pedal I already have.

Nothing like taking an anti-establishment stance especially when the SJWs have a nefarious control purpose behind it.

Anti-establishment stance? What's anti-establishment about that?

 

[Speeddemon]

Anyway, as musicians and artists, I just feel we should all be leary of a company banning things like that, even if the action feeds our political views or we think it’s disgusting or horrible. The content is irrelevant. I’d feel the same if the pedal was named “insert whatever disgusts you” (what I should have stated above instead of getting off topic with nazi shit)

I thought this would be a universal feeling among musicians.

Agree with you there.
It baffles me why the few women (and their 'do-gooder-am-I-not-holier-than-thou' buddies) would object specifically to this toneprint (and later on pedal), when there are so many 'crassly named' guitar pedals out there, since '69http://www.kitrae.net/music/big_muff_history.html? Even something relative new as that pink Cioks powersupply?

And the mere expectation of a backlash does not warrant the initial action.
If you're truly 'fighting' against sexism, female objectification, misogyny, etc. in the music bizz, aren't there bigger fish to fry than a friggin' Toneprint name?! Heck, *and* if you do start with attacking pedal names, why stop here?

Seems to me these women from bands no one heard before this shitstorm were just in it for their moment of fame and glory and/or pushing a political agenda. If your musical glory depends on effectively censoring a commercial company and, as well as by the (social)media turmoil surrounding it, then you...well... deserve VERY little credit for your craft (he said in his most unmisogynistic and politically correct way).

 

[EXPcustom]

As for the confusion around my left wing nazi statement, this may help. Please at least watch from the 30 second mark to around 1:40.

That's one (rather American colored) view, that only focuses on the level of government by their standard that left=100% government and right is 0%.

Here's a few others :
https://medium.com/@sumdepony/yes-the-nazis-were-indisputably-right-wing-9731a1ea7d36
http://theconversation.com/five-que...t-relates-to-australian-politics-today-101725
Some Australian press commentators have said that Nazism was left-wing. Is this right?
No. Nazis and fascists were decidedly right-wing and fervently anti-communist. There was a small and short-lived group of Nazis clustered around the Strasser brothers who were interested in a racial strain of anti-capitalist politics. They might loosely be termed “socialist”, but they were completely purged from the Nazi party very early on.

On coming to power, the first targets of the Nazis were communists and socialists. The formal name of the Nazi party, the NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers Party), was a failed attempt to attract workers to the party and away from the left. It failed, and the main voters for the Nazis remained the lower middle classes - the economically vulnerable who most feared the spectre of socialism.


Anywho...Mmy point is more that I had my fair share of Americans that confuse socialism with communism, just because it's apparently seen through a binary pair of glasses.

But I digress, and oh shoot...no politics here.

And FUCK YEAH for Poontang Boomerang! to be preceded by the Bucket Brigade chip equipped Chorus Clitorus.

The Nazi or should I say National Socialists were socialists. I get it you probably got fed biased info especially if you are using Medium.com as a source.

Nazi were very Anti-Communist but they were very socialist but not the Marx type of socialism. See they put up the facade of capitalism but if you were a major company like Krupps Stahl, Porsche, Mercedes you had to "play ball" with the Nazi party otherwise you would not get the lucrative contracts that were needed to remain profitable under their rule. Also the state had final say so on how you used resources not the business owner. This was also a form of Crony Capitalism, if you are a private entity you got to play by the rules, think the same way, or you're excluded, sound familiar?

The Nazi government tells these seeming entrepreneurs or established companies what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell. The government decrees at what wages labourers should work, and to whom and under what terms the capitalists should entrust their funds.

As all prices, wages and interest rates are fixed by the authority, they are prices, wages and interest rates in appearance only The authority, not the consumers, directs production. The central board of production management is supreme; all citizens are nothing else but civil servants. This is socialism with the outward appearance of capitalism.

If you ever bought any WWII artifacts from Germany you can see the proofs on all items had to be stamped by the government quality assurance authority before they could be sold.

Lets not forget the social programs the Nazis had established. Everything from government planned vacations to a standardized workers vehicle once you got your little book of stamps filled after being a good civil servant.

So you're still going to tell me the Nazi party was right wing and the socialist name in the party is just there for show?

 

[Speeddemon]

The Nazi or should I say National Socialists were socialists. I get it you probably got fed biased info especially if you are using Medium.com as a source.

Nazi were very Anti-Communist but they were very socialist but not the Marx type of socialism. See they put up the facade of capitalism but if you were a major company like Krupps Stahl, Porsche, Mercedes you had to "play ball" with the Nazi party otherwise you would not get the lucrative contracts that were needed to remain profitable under their rule. Also the state had final say so on how you used resources not the business owner. This was also a form of Crony Capitalism, if you are a private entity you got to play by the rules, think the same way, or you're excluded, sound familiar?

The Nazi government tells these seeming entrepreneurs or established companies what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell. The government decrees at what wages labourers should work, and to whom and under what terms the capitalists should entrust their funds.

As all prices, wages and interest rates are fixed by the authority, they are prices, wages and interest rates in appearance only The authority, not the consumers, directs production. The central board of production management is supreme; all citizens are nothing else but civil servants. This is socialism with the outward appearance of capitalism.

If you ever bought any WWII artifacts from Germany you can see the proofs on all items had to be stamped by the government quality assurance authority before they could be sold.

Lets not forget the social programs the Nazis had established. Everything from government planned vacations to a standardized workers vehicle once you got your little book of stamps filled after being a good civil servant.

So you're still going to tell me the Nazi party was right wing and the socialist name in the party is just there for show?

1) You want to discredit my WHOLE post by 'invalidating' just 1 of the links I've provided?
Please inform me what's wrong with medium.com ? I just grabbed some links that came up with 'are nazi's left wing'.

2) You failed to comment at my 2nd link completely (probably because it was a solid one with a different opinion... Anyway...

Also, just because a government controls everything, that doesn't equal socialism per se. It equals dictatorship for one.

But sure, here's some more arguments for ya:
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism- ... y/10214302
quote:
Under Hitler, the party looked squarely to the middle classes and farmers rather than the working class for a political base. Hitler realigned it to ensure that it was an anti-socialist, anti-liberal, authoritarian, pro-business party - particularly after the failed Beerhall Putsch of 1923. The "socialism" in the name National Socialism was a strategically chosen misnomer designed to attract working class votes where possible, but they refused to take the bait.

2nd quote that shows a whole different light on your point about big companies is interesting too:
For their part, businesses welcomed the Nazis' promises to suppress the left. On 20 February 1933, Hitler and Goering met with a large group of industrialists when Hitler declared that democracy and business were incompatible and that the workers needed to be dragged away from socialism. He promised bold action to protect their businesses and property from communism. The industrialists - including leading figures from I.G. Farben, Hoesch, Krupp, Siemens, Allianz and other senior mining and manufacturing groups - then contributed more than two million Reichsmarks to the Nazi election fund, with Goering tellingly suggesting that this would probably be the last election for a hundred years. Business leadership happily jettisoned democracy to rid Germany of socialism and to smash organised labour.

Some more:
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
Quote: Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934.

Quote 2:
Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month. That July Hitler banned all political parties other than his own, and prominent members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Lest there be any remaining questions about the political character of the Nazi revolution, Hitler ordered the murder of Gregor Strasser, an act that was carried out on June 30, 1934, during the Night of the Long Knives. Any remaining traces of socialist thought in the Nazi Party had been extinguished.

And finally (for the kill ) a fact check that actually addresses YOUR biased view:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/ ... ocialists/
Quote #1:
Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism.
Quote #2:
What Nazism Stood For
The National Socialists completely ignored socialism’s primary aim (replacing the existing class-based society with an egalitarian one in which workers owned the means of production) and substituted their own topsy-turvy agenda, Evans writes, “replacing class with race, and the dictatorship of the proletariat with the dictatorship of the leader”:


So please tell me how is Nazism either 'left' or 'socialist' again?


Cue another 'your links are worthless, blabla.' comment (by someone who provides 0 links himself...tsk tsk)

Can we please agree on the Pussy Melter situation at hand?

 

[engage757]

In no universe is fascism "left". None. It is blatantly right-wing, and so were the Nazis. Nazis were socialists in name only, nothing more, they were the most blatant fascists in history.

Wow.

 

[Speeddemon]

In no universe is fascism "left". None. It is blatantly right-wing, and so were the Nazis. Nazis were socialists in name only, nothing more, they were the most blatant fascists in history.

Wow.

 

[engage757]

In no universe is fascism "left". None. It is blatantly right-wing, and so were the Nazis. Nazis were socialists in name only, nothing more, they were the most blatant fascists in history.

Wow.

It truly is shocking that people in 2019 don't know these things. Government and Political Science needs to be offered for four years in High school I think. This is truly as basic as it gets, but in America, conservatives have spun "Socialism" into this McCarthy-esque kind of witch hunt where we act like it is communist and work against our best interests to allow the filthy rich and our government to run amok for their corporate interests. Ironically, it's the same people fighting against their own best interest that do it under the guise of "small Government" and vote conservative, as the right consistently works against not only the Constitution, but also to expand government power and overreach. Ah yes, party-line, identity politic- controlled voters with no education. PERFECT.

What was it I heard awhile back? Liberals love facts, conservatives ignore facts because fuck the liberals.

Nazis are left wing socialists. Jesus christ. THat is literally showing the absolute lack of the most basic political knowledge on the planet.

 

[narad]

In no universe is fascism "left". None. It is blatantly right-wing, and so were the Nazis. Nazis were socialists in name only, nothing more, they were the most blatant fascists in history.

Wow.

It truly is shocking that people in 2019 don't know these things. Government and Political Science needs to be offered for four years in High school I think. This is truly as basic as it gets, but in America, conservatives have spun "Socialism" into this McCarthy-esque kind of witch hunt where we act like it is communist and work against our best interests to allow the filthy rich and our government to run amok for their corporate interests. Ironically, it's the same people fighting against their own best interest that do it under the guise of "small Government" and vote conservative, as the right consistently works against not only the Constitution, but also to expand government power and overreach. Ah yes, party-line, identity politic- controlled voters with no education. PERFECT.

What was it I heard awhile back? Liberals love facts, conservatives ignore facts because fuck the liberals.

Nazis are left wing socialists. Jesus christ. THat is literally showing the absolute lack of the most basic political knowledge on the planet.

Man, it's stupidity concentrate. Of course, the amount of illogical leaps to reach that conclusion is paralleled by the amount of poor reasoning required to even be debating the definition of Nazism in a thread about a guitar pedal that angered feminists.

Regardless of where people stand on the Reverb/PM issue, the people derailing the topic this much should go sit in the corner. People want to get upset over a pedal? Fine. People want to get upset over Reverb? Fine. But the Nazi guys...the Nazi guys have to attend some remedial history class before popping in here.

 

[stratjacket]

All you have offered are opinions with no facts.
This isn't even an argument. It's very simple facts, as the 30sec - 1:40 mark in the video I put above points out. Please watch that if you have not.

 

[stratjacket]

Man, it's stupidity concentrate. Of course, the amount of illogical leaps to reach that conclusion is paralleled by the amount of poor reasoning required to even be debating the definition of Nazism in a thread about a guitar pedal that angered feminists.

Regardless of where people stand on the Reverb/PM issue, the people derailing the topic this much should go sit in the corner. People want to get upset over a pedal? Fine. People want to get upset over Reverb? Fine. But the Nazi guys...the Nazi guys have to attend some remedial history class before popping in here.

You're right man. I wanted to compare banning art, even something disgusting, as a bad thing to do. I shouldn't have used the nazi comparison, but I figured that was universal disgusting. I am out of this. It's silly.

 

[Racerxrated]

There is no equivalency in the musical gear market to Reverb.

Then start one. You're totally free to do that. Reverb is not a monopoly, plain and simple.

Just like there is no equivalency to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube , Google ect. They dictate the rules because they know there is little options out there. This is not capitalism.

There are alternatives to all of those. You're just choosing to ignore them. Are they as big as those companies? Maybe not. Yes, this is capitalism. Welcome to the real world, not some made up utopia where you always get your way.

You think Google is the only search engine? You think YouTube is the only platform for uploading and sharing videos? You think Facebook and Twitter are the only social networks? No. They aren't. They might be the most popular. But that's not your point now is it.

A monopoly is a specific entity. US antitrust laws are enforced by the FTC and the DOJ. And they're in place to prevent collusion between large enterprises. Reverb being the only online for-sale marketplace dedicated to musical instruments does not a monopoly make. If eBay and Reverb got together as partners to strong-arm craigslist and all other forms of online sales... then that would be a monopoly. MAYBE. You would still have plenty of ways left to sell that "greatest guitar I've ever played in my life, just isn't for me so it's for sale".

For something to be a monopoly, you have to prove in court that the company's conduct causes some type of harm or restraint of trade or that the company has engaged in some practice to prevent competition in the marketplace—like collusion.

I see Pseudo Douche Peterlicker VCfucktardo is back...like a festering boil he just keeps returning, ban after ban after ban......way too easy to spot.

 

[romanianreaper]

The whole idea behind the "Pussy Melter" is comedy. This is like Lips from Anvil using a vibrator for his guitar solos back in the day. Of course it doesn't increase the sustain, etc. It is just comedy.

I think the thing that drives me crazy about this thing is that it is a little pedal. A little pedal that guitarists will buy for a laugh and for the novelty of it. I know I'm getting old when some human on this earth was able to find out this pedal is being made and make a big deal about it.

I have to sit thru commercials with women dancing around showing how their adult diapers don't show, a family of cartoon bears talking about wiping after taking a dump, and other stuff, and somehow someone found this pedal. Meanwhile, their own kid has probably killed his 10,000th person in some banned video game right down the hall.

Someone brought up Tipper Gore earlier and that is a great comparison. When they came out with the "list", everyone who knows anything about music realized how clueless she was. There were way worse songs out there and bands way crazier. That is how I feel about this pedal. Go to your local mall and walk thru Spencer's sometime. It is basically a sex shop now and all ages walk thru there daily.

 

[japetus]

This is why I will never sell my offensive guitars.

Maaaan, those are so fucking badass!!

 

[Speeddemon]

All you have offered are opinions with no facts.

Uhh...no. What makes your provided link more factual than mine?

This isn't even an argument. It's very simple facts, as the 30sec - 1:40 mark in the video I put above points out. Please watch that if you have not.

Please read all links that I've provided if you have not. If the FACTUAL 'Night of the Long Knives' and the reason behind it doesn't ring any bells, I guess you haven't learned anything.

What Britannica, Snopes or even answers on Quora (e.g. https://www.quora.com/To-what-extent-we ... socialists or https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Nazism-con ... ical-terms ) state are not mere opinions.
Just because your 'Government' video was voiced over by a serious-sounding dude, doesn't make it a fact. It's a certain -biased- & incomplete view on the political spectrum. And multiple sources will argue that fascism actually doesn't fit the mold of Left=100% government, Right=0 government, that your video seems to hold as the only truth.

Hitler got rid of all folks that promoted real left-wing/socialist thinking (like the Strasser bro's). No opinion. Historical fact.
Multiple sources corroborate that the only reason NSDAP had 'Socialist' in their name was to attract the workforce as a voter-base. No opinion, again historical fact.

Luckily someone like engage757 or narad understands it.

To the rest clinging on this 'nazi's are leftists/socialists' bs... I believe Mrs. Conway coined a nice term for that.

 

[stratjacket]

All you have offered are opinions with no facts.

Uhh...no. What makes your provided link more factual than mine?

This isn't even an argument. It's very simple facts, as the 30sec - 1:40 mark in the video I put above points out. Please watch that if you have not.

Please read all links that I've provided if you have not. If you don't know how the name Gregor (or Otto) Strasser falls into this, you haven't read or learned anything.
What Britannica, Snopes or even answers on Quora (e.g. https://www.quora.com/To-what-extent-we ... socialists or https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Nazism-con ... ical-terms ) state are not mere opinions.
Just because your 'Government' video was voiced over by a serious-sounding dude, doesn't make it a fact. It's a certain -biased- & incomplete view on the political spectrum.

Hitler got rid of all folks that promoted real left-wing/socialist thinking (like the Strasser bro's). No opinion. Historical fact. Multiple sources corroborate that the only reason NSDAP had 'Socialist' in their name was to attract the workforce as a voter-base. No opinion, again historical fact.

Luckily someone like engage757 or narad understands it.

To the rest clinging on this 'nazi's are leftists/socialists' bs... I believe Mrs. Conway coined a nice term for that. "Alternative facts".

Dude, calm down. I wasn't referring to you.

I've conceded you are all correct in a European view, nazi's are to the right. What more do you want? I thought we already got passed that...

 

[Speeddemon]

Dude, calm down. I wasn't referring to you.

I am calm, don't worry. I have facts and history on my side.

I've conceded you are all correct in a European view, nazi's are to the right. What more do you want? I thought we already got passed that...

Not just an European view. In general. By saying that 'oh yeah, you're right...but just in an European view' you still don't seem to get it.
Again, look up The Night of the Long Knives.

Or Nazi Party on Wiki for that matter...
The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: About this soundNationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party (English: /ˈnɑːtsi, ˈnætsi/),[5] was a far-right political party in Germany that was active between 1920 and 1945.

 

[Jon BCN]

Reverb can do whatever the hell they want, don't use the site if you don't like it.

I have never used it and I would never do it either.

But sorry, we can't ignore a musical company that have banned a pedal because "it promotes violence against women because some crazy feminazis said so". This needs to have a reaction against it even if it's just for basic decency against a company lying just to push a political agenda.

Neither is better than the other.

The good ol' equidistant position to try to save the face of one position.

 

[stratjacket]

That's one (rather American colored) view, that only focuses on the level of government by their standard that left=100% government and right is 0%.

You've already agreed with me and seemed like you got the point. I don't understand why you're changing your story.

 

[Racerxrated]

Ya and the Democrats weren’t the party of the Kkk...sarcasm.

And the Nazis never took the general populations guns away either...more sarcasm.

You are all living in inverted reality. But now everything is clear.

Best day ever!

Fuck you Racerxrated you piece of shit!

VCFucktardo Douchepeterlicker, go back and crawl under that BANNED rock again, where you belong....no matter how many fake ass names you call yourself you're still the same cunt you used to be.

I'll give your little bitch self about 3 days before BAN HAMMER strikes you, you festering boil on the ass of humanity.
Go back to your gay child porn sites you like to frequent.

 

[japetus]

Well this certainly escalated quickly....