The IIC+reissue goes live Dec. 3rd. $3599

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thegame said:
Definitely no safety issues as Mesa transformers are very tolerant of impedance mismatches. But there's always a loss of efficiency, attack and articulation running a 16 ohm cab off of a Mesa 8 ohm tap. Moreso than doing the same on Marshall amps IMO.
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Didn't Hetfield run his IIC+ into Marshall cabs? Aren't those usually 16ohm?
 
Faded Abyss said:
I’m curious if they will have any mods or it will be 100% true to the original design. Example: bringing the presence knob to the front.

I sure hope they don’t stuff a cab clone/speaker load in it… in that case… leave the the presence knob in the back instead, I won’t complain
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Since they're doing a head & a combo I'm willing to bet they'll only offer a short head, so presence & reverb both on the back.

It's in theory going to be true to the circuit, but not the design. The guts are going to be modern- IOW it'll look like a JP on the inside, not like a vintage amp. That being said, if they literally make a modern RP11 preamp board that would also support vintage amp owners with bad boards, even if it's a modern PCB, that would be super ideal.
 
SonVolt said:
Didn't Hetfield run his IIC+ into Marshall cabs? Aren't those usually 16ohm?
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Yes, however they can be wired 4 ohm for a correct match.

When we recorded the album I ended up using the 8 ohm Recto cab into the 4 ohm tap on the C+ because I liked the color it gave it on the mic. Live in the band though it darkens it a bit for my taste and loses cut. So, just have to try & see what you like.
 
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https://www.peachguitars.com/mesa-boogie-mark-iic-head.htm

Looks like they already took down the page. From what I could see, the build will be using modern manufacturing.

A couple of quick observations:

1) Looks like it will be using a newer PCB method of manufacturing

2) Choke is relocated away from the Power Transformer

3) Standoffs for an output tube shield Guard

4) Mark III pilot light

5) Newer EQ knobs

6) Fan wasn't visible, which leads me to believe it'll be mounted like most modern Mesa's (vertical smaller/quiter fan)

7) Also looks like they relocated the PI tube
 
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SonVolt said:
Didn't Hetfield run his IIC+ into Marshall cabs? Aren't those usually 16ohm?
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Usually but 8 ohm Marshall 4x12 cabs are not unheard of. His Mesa power amps had dual 8 ohm outputs anyway and there's other ways to ensure correct impedance matching when the amp won't allow it, such as parallel boxes.
 
Kinda nuts that these things don't have back panels.

And I can only imagine how many guys will be turned off by the blue lamp. I'm serious, I think it could be a dealbreaker for many. Just like the Les Paul guys complaining about the pickup covers or inlay colour on 59 reissues.

Oh and the small, modern GEQ slider knobs. Hard to get authentic tone without attention to these details.
 
ZEN Amps said:
Kinda nuts that these things don't have back panels.

And I can only imagine how many guys will be turned off by the blue lamp. I'm serious, I think it could be a dealbreaker for many. Just like the Les Paul guys complaining about the pickup covers or inlay colour on 59 reissues.

Oh and the small, modern GEQ slider knobs. Hard to get authentic tone without attention to these details.
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thegame said:
If these amps are still made in California, then I'm not surprised at the purposeful change from orange to blue on that small detail.
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Orange would have fit because this amp, like the country, decided it didn’t like the sound of “We’re not going back” 😁
 
Gibson fucking scumbags can't even get my authentic orange indicator light right. Money hungry pigs wringing the leftover cumrag that is Mesa just to ooze out a little bit more mojo to make a quick buck.

TAKE YOUR BLUE LIGHT AND SHOVE IT MESA. I BACK THE BLUE BUT NOT THIS KIND OF BLUE, YOU YUPPIE FUCKS.
 
GJgo said:
Since they're doing a head & a combo I'm willing to bet they'll only offer a short head, so presence & reverb both on the back.

It's in theory going to be true to the circuit, but not the design. The guts are going to be modern- IOW it'll look like a JP on the inside, not like a vintage amp. That being said, if they literally make a modern RP11 preamp board that would also support vintage amp owners with bad boards, even if it's a modern PCB, that would be super ideal.
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SP11 would be better...they already screwed up and who knows what else!!
 
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