THE OCT CUTTIN CORRAL - Come Hang Out For A Whilst and talk about Retards and dumb shit…

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311splawndude said:
@Aynirar27 - I see you are still going at it. I commend you for taking all of this on pretty much by yourself. And to someone else's point - this conversation has been pretty civil. It would have devolved pretty rapidly about a month ago. :LOL:


That seems contradictory to what you were saying before?


It is more than just men in dresses. :dunno:



I've heard that these new fangled restrooms that you think are neat, are actually going to be more expensive and will ultimately hit consumers in the wallet.
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More up front sure, but from a maintenance perspective, much cheaper long term.

I used to be a facility manager for a casino. men’s/women’s bathrooms had different fixtures and architectural details, so twice the spare parts to keep.
Not to mention men’s bathrooms needed men cleaners and women’s bathrooms needed women cleaners, so twice the employees.
Then if something broke in the women’s room, we either needed a female plumber or shut down the entire bathroom. Which A) is a bad look, and B) then involves a security guard (more manpower).
It creates a ton of expenses on the tail end and throughout the life of the building.

But to your other parts, I do think they are trying to influence the youth. Not to be gay or be a cross dresser, but to appreciate or respect all the different walks of life out there.

And I do still think drag is just dudes in dresses, especially in this particular environment.
 
PLX said:
Not they're not.

I think your position on that topic is awesome.

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denialist said:
Seems like the obvious answer to me. But I have a hunch it will not fly with newly "identified", where any less than total acceptance that they are what they claim is call for "BIGOT!"
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Everything will be completely neutral. The sign on the door will just say “restroom”.
A certain percent will be ADA compliant to cover that, and it’s good to go.

As a parent of daughters, I’m excited for them. I can’t go in women’s rooms and I’d rather not bring them into a men’s room either. Single “family” bathrooms are still common, but the need for them will decrease
 
Aynirar27 said:
Is it conceivable to think that the gays may cause people to think they were more of less trying to indoctrinate a gay lifestyle, but the 2nd group would not be seen as trying to indoctrinate a “straight” lifestyle. Has being straight been so engrained in our society as being “normal” that we don’t even realize that we are conditioning our kids to think that way.
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You really lost me with this post #473 of yours. You have to be kidding right? "Has being straight been so engrained in our society as being normal.....". Dude. I don't even. How do you think we got the society? Sperm from a man has to fertilize a woman's egg. Parents have kids. Society grows.

As I've said before if people want to be gay that's fine. I have friends that are gay. I have educated myself. I am tolerant of their lifestyle. But I am not bigot when I say that gay sex does not create babies and therefore is not part of the norm that keeps a society moving through the ages.


Aynirar27 said:
Personally, I don’t think most of us are pushing any agenda. BUT societal norms are changing whether we like it or not. I’m sure homosexuality will always be in the minority, but I don’t think it will be as fringe as it is now. It will be normal, and accepted just the same.
I feel that is an ok thing to happen, and that is why I’m ok with children learning that the “gay lifestyle” is a thing. They will be exposed to it no matter what, and these story times seem like a controlled environment to do so.
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You've been saying up until now that drag is not gay. Or are we now talking about Gay Story Hour? Sorry. Trying to catch up.
 
311splawndude said:
You really lost me with this post #473 of yours. You have to be kidding right? "Has being straight been so engrained in our society as being normal.....". Dude. I don't even. How do you think we got the society? Sperm from a man has to fertilize a woman's egg. Parents have kids. Society grows.

As I've said before if people want to be gay that's fine. I have friends that are gay. I have educated myself. I am tolerant of their lifestyle. But I am not bigot when I say that gay sex does not create babies and therefore is not part of the norm that keeps a society moving through the ages.



You've been saying up until now that drag is not gay. Or are we now talking about Gay Story Hour? Sorry. Trying to catch up.
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That was me not being clear I guess. I reckon most people that do drag are gay. But I dont think the expression of drag is about showing the world you are gay. There are plenty of ways to do that.

And the “engrained” thing was a complete hypothetical exercise to basically compare apples to apples. I think I said it before that I take Group A and Group B. Imagine they do the same thing in front of the same group of people, and then think about how the people will react differently to the two groups. It’s as close to “test one variable at a time” as you can get in such a situation.
I do think there is some merit to it if your goal is to look at something objectively, which is what I am trying to do.

Like the example I used of “sleeping beauty”
Prince kisses girl, it’s just a fairy tale.
Prince kisses boy…. It could easily be seen as gay propaganda. There is still an inherent distrust with many people towards homosexuality. I believe that same distrust affects people’s opinions on drag story hour.

In my mind, JBT has given the most honest post yet. He basically said “that shit creeps me out and I want nothing to do with it”
That is completely valid, succinct and respectable imo
 
stackedCabs said:
Am I supposed to believe you're a monkey / man hybrid?
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I have some issues with your answer:

You claimed you were from China:

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I however claimed I'm from Melbourne, which is where I am at this very moment.

Avatars and user names need not have an ounce of truth in them, so there's that. Everyone knows this.

Instead of acknowledging my request that you stop insulting members, you replied with this pathetic "comeback".

No matter. Everyone saw it including a mod who gave you a few days off to think about whether or not disrespecting the mods is an endeavour you're likely to continue to pursue.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
I want to interject real quick here to say it's a nice change of pace to see a controversial topic like this go for so many pages without it devolving into petty back and forth name calling. It just proves that the majority of members here can have an overall civil discussion even if they don't agree on matters.
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311splawndude said:
And to someone else's point - this conversation has been pretty civil. It would have devolved pretty rapidly about a month ago. :LOL:
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Agreed guys. I'm sure you're not alone in noticing this.

Amazing what a difference the absence of the incessant ad-hominem and alt accusations makes.
 
dcburn said:
Because they aren't accepted by most adults? :dunno:
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This is where the argument falls apart. Drag shows are very popular with adults in lots of places across the country. Just check your local Yellow Pages and see what they charge for a gig.

Same with a lot of parents of children. The shows for kids and their parents in libraries or schools, etc. are always booked solid and very well attended.
 
Baked Bean said:
This is where the argument falls apart. Drag shows are very popular with adults in lots of places across the country. Just check your local Yellow Pages and see what they charge for a gig.
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Fine :)

Baked Bean said:
Same with a lot of parents of children. The shows for kids and their parents in libraries or schools, etc. are always booked solid and very well attended.
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Not fine :(
 
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