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Bloodrock said:
Trump vowing to jail political opponents and journalists who don't kiss his ass for a start. And terminate the parts of the constitution he doesn't like..
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Jesus man, open your eyes. Do a little research. Either point out exactly what you are talking about or sit this one out. You sound like my 85yr old aunt.
 
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Thumbpicker said:
Now you just shoot up schools 😂
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It didn't start until the AR15 style rifle with 16 round mags and larger became available to the general public. Yes there were some before, the Texas University shooting 50 years ago was one of the first with a bolt action hunting rifle. Lots of victims but nothing like a shooter with an AR, extended mags and a bump stock.
I let my NRA membership lapse after they helped defeat a bill to restrict that type of firearm. That was years ago but just this year I renewed my membership along with a note explaining my position on the issue. I can’t see any practicality in the AR style rifle except as a "fun gun" and not worth the price we are paying in murdered children.
I'm sure others won't agree and sure I've made some factual mistakes above but that's my thoughts on the issue...gun control: no, AR15 control: yes.
 
84superchamp said:
I let my NRA membership lapse after they helped defeat a bill to restrict that type of firearm
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Shall not be infringed. Period. If you aren't comfortable with your fellow citizens having the right to bear arms then don't live in the US.

If the machine that runs our country wanted to keep schools safe it would guard them. But they don't, and they won't. Kids getting shot and killed keeps the "gun control" narrative alive, and disarming us is a priority. Another reason they are brainwashing, mutilating and drugging kids--they are setting them up to snap.

It is so easy to see as long as you aren't afraid to look.
 
84superchamp said:
It didn't start until the AR15 style rifle with 16 round mags and larger became available to the general public. Yes there were some before, the Texas University shooting 50 years ago was one of the first with a bolt action hunting rifle. Lots of victims but nothing like a shooter with an AR, extended mags and a bump stock.
I let my NRA membership lapse after they helped defeat a bill to restrict that type of firearm. That was years ago but just this year I renewed my membership along with a note explaining my position on the issue. I can’t see any practicality in the AR style rifle except as a "fun gun" and not worth the price we are paying in murdered children.
I'm sure others won't agree and sure I've made some factual mistakes above but that's my thoughts on the issue...gun control: no, AR15 control: yes.
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You got the biggest fact wrong. The AR-15 was a civilian rifle BEFORE it morphed into the m16. It was only ever prohibited for civilians to buy for ten years during the Clinton AWB.
Furthermore, banning it is and was staggeringly unconstitutional.

Blaming guns for crime is absolutely retarded.
 
Floyd Eye said:
You got the biggest fact wrong. The AR-15 was a civilian rifle BEFORE it morphed into the m16. It was only ever prohibited for civilians to buy for ten years during the Clinton AWB.
Furthermore, banning it is and was staggeringly unconstitutional.

Blaming guns for crime is absolutely retarded.
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Not exactly blaming guns, it takes a warped individual but that warped individual would have fewer shots with a standard hunting rifle (bolt action or semi auto). I'm pro 2nd amendment but there has to be limitations: military hardware has no business in the hands of clueless civilians. And a bill that goes beyond that particular firearm gets a definite NO from me...the NRA is the only roadblock between libs and complete disarmament and why I continued my support.
 
tallcoolone said:
Shall not be infringed. Period. If you aren't comfortable with your fellow citizens having the right to bear arms then don't live in the US.

If the machine that runs our country wanted to keep schools safe it would guard them. But they don't, and they won't. Kids getting shot and killed keeps the "gun control" narrative alive, and disarming us is a priority. Another reason they are brainwashing, mutilating and drugging kids--they are setting them up to snap.

It is so easy to see as long as you aren't afraid to look.
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:LOL: we disagree so time for me to emigrate eh? You get an A (10) in buffoonery.
 
84superchamp said:
Not exactly blaming guns, it takes a warped individual but that warped individual would have fewer shots with a standard hunting rifle (bolt action or semi auto). I'm pro 2nd amendment but there has to be limitations: military hardware has no business in the hands of clueless civilians. And a bill that goes beyond that particular firearm gets a definite NO from me...the NRA is the only roadblock between libs and complete disarmament and why I continued my support.
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ALL GUN LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL .
 
The people who framed the US constitution could have no inkling of what modern weapons of war and guns are like. What did they have in 1776? Flintlock rifles? If there was a rogue guy with a flintlock rifle it wouldn't take too much to take him down before there was complete carnage. All you had to do is wait until the guy had to reload and is ramming his powder home or whatever and charge him. I dare you to try that with an AR15 after it has fired a single shot (i.e. plenty more where that came from).

I'm surprised you aren't allowed to own personal nuclear bombs in the US. That'll lern 'em Jethro.
 
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Thumbpicker said:
The people who framed the US constitution could have no inkling of what modern weapons of war and guns are like. What did they have in 1776? Flintlock rifles? If there was a rogue guy with a flintlock rifle it wouldn't take too much to take him down before there was complete carnage. All you had to do is wait until the guy had to reload and is ramming his powder home or whatever and charge him. I dare you to try that with an AR15 after it has fired a single shot (i.e. plenty more where that came from).

I'm surprised you aren't allowed to own personal nuclear bombs in the US. That'll lern 'em Jethro.
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The entire point of this to the founding fathers was that (in its simplest form) if the government overreached the citizens would be able to take back control. You know this, don’t you? Cause I’m sensing that some here don’t.
 
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tallcoolone said:
The entire point of this to the founding fathers was that if the government overreached the citizens would be able to take back control. You know this, don’t you? Cause I’m sensing that some here don’t.
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But they couldn't have forseen how much carnage a lone citizen could do with a modern weapon. Back then to create that amount of carnage it took a militia.
 
84superchamp said:
It didn't start until the AR15 style rifle with 16 round mags and larger became available to the general public. Yes there were some before, the Texas University shooting 50 years ago was one of the first with a bolt action hunting rifle. Lots of victims but nothing like a shooter with an AR, extended mags and a bump stock.
I let my NRA membership lapse after they helped defeat a bill to restrict that type of firearm. That was years ago but just this year I renewed my membership along with a note explaining my position on the issue. I can’t see any practicality in the AR style rifle except as a "fun gun" and not worth the price we are paying in murdered children.
I'm sure others won't agree and sure I've made some factual mistakes above but that's my thoughts on the issue...gun control: no, AR15 control: yes.
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You do know more people are killed with hammers than AR’s right?
The vast majority of murders are committed with pistols, anyone could get a semi auto pistol and go into a school and kill just as many people, but nobody brings that up.
The mental cases that mean to go in and kill children would still do it if you collected every AR in the country. ARs have been in common use by civilians for 50 years, why is it that for all that time it wasn’t a problem until the last 15 or so? Because people are more screwed up than ever and no laws are gonna change that.
There are between 20-30 million ARs in civilian hands in the US, they fall under the “common use” clause in the 2nd Amendment, there will not be any collecting them from lawful citizens unless you want to start a civil war.
There are multiple ways to greatly reduce the number of school shootings that could stop 90% of them, but it will require law changes that have to do with mental health records and juvenile records to be tied into the background check system already in place.
Don’t you think it would be better to start there and actually improve the situation rather than start a civil war?
I know you said you don’t have any problems with pistols, just ARs, but do you really think once they are allowed to collect ARs it would stop there?
Surely you don’t believe that. Think about what you are saying. Let them collect the scary looking black rifles that are only responsible for a tiny percentage of killings, but let everyone keep the pistols that kill more people than any other firearm on earth?
They have made ARs the bad guy because they want to get a foot in the door for confiscation that will ultimately lead to full disarmament of US citizens. That is the goal.
Lawful gun owners are done with idiots who act like people who never break laws are the problem. The are measures that could easily be taken if they were serious about a solution, but they have proven by their inaction on the matter that they are not serious people at all.
They have ignored proposals that address the changes to tying mental health and juvenile records along with social media flags to the background check system. Why would any sane person do that in the face of this situation?
Because they need emotionally charged issues to get us to a place we submit for our own good and hence the greater good.
It may be different where you live, but where I live there will be no collecting weapons of any kind that are lawfully owned. We don’t care wether or not everyone else in the country approves. We elect Sheriffs who have made crystal clear they will be a firewall to any unconstitutional law regarding the 2nd Amendment and we will back him in whatever the context requires.

Strange there has never been a school shooting here, everyone who lives here is very well armed. There must be tens of thousands of guns In my county and we don’t have any of those problems ….

Weird..
 
Thumbpicker said:
The people who framed the US constitution could have no inkling of what modern weapons of war and guns are like. What did they have in 1776? Flintlock rifles? If there was a rogue guy with a flintlock rifle it wouldn't take too much to take him down before there was complete carnage. All you had to do is wait until the guy had to reload and is ramming his powder home or whatever and charge him. I dare you to try that with an AR15 after it has fired a single shot (i.e. plenty more where that came from).

I'm surprised you aren't allowed to own personal nuclear bombs in the US. That'll lern 'em Jethro.
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That's exactly as stupid as the argument that the framers had no inkling of the internet so free speech should be regulated.

I'll explain it to you again. The idea was that the government not be able to subjugate the citizens. What guns were available is irrelevant. Not to mention the fact that to argue they had no idea that weapons would advance is ignorant of the facts. You should bone up on firearms history twin brother. There were already examples of rapid fire, high capacity firearms. They weren't stupid and they knew that new technology was bound to improve firearms, just as it did transportation, clothes washing and about 100,000 other things.
 
Thumbpicker said:
But they couldn't have forseen how much carnage a lone citizen could do with a modern weapon. Back then to create that amount of carnage it took a militia.
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Sure they could. The big change wasn't modern weapons dude. It was people. Back then there was very little desire of mass murder by normal citizens.
 
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